mrmojorisin75 Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 on the why i like cisse thing; he just always seems to be happy to be there, and gives his all accordingly...same as any of us would feel it's a privilege to be pro footballer, let alone at a club like us, and he exudes respect for the position he's in at all times love him to bits Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 I think the little spell he's had on the wing might help him longer term as it's forced him to work on his all-round game and he probably has a bit more appreciation of how the team works. Enough's enough now though - get this lad through the middle and he'll win us games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 There was a moment in the first half when Cisse looked fuming at Ba for shooting when he was in the middle waiting for the pass. Would have taken a very good pass from Ba but if he hit him then it was a tap in. Any striker worth his salt would have taken that shot on man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 I think the little spell he's had on the wing might help him longer term as it's forced him to work on his all-round game and he probably has a bit more appreciation of how the team works. Enough's enough now though - get this lad through the middle and he'll win us games. looks like a player about to hit form to me,goal spree hopefully Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Fantastic run and finish, he is far too good to have just 'lost it', hopefully this is the confidence he needs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 The goal came from a movement when Ba was out on the wing and Cisse in the centre. Possibly significant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyeyzzon Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 The goal came from a movement when Ba was out on the wing and Cisse in the centre. Possibly significant. Aye noticed this too. Cisse's been in a better run of form over the past two games imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 The goal came from a movement when Ba was out on the wing and Cisse in the centre. Possibly significant. There definitely should be a less rigid option than 'Okay YOU must play here and YOU must play here'. I don't see why it can't be more fluid. A 4-3-3 but the players able to switch positions as and when. That said if both are desperate to play central it could throw up some problems and leave one side of the pitch a little bare. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 The goal came from a movement when Ba was out on the wing and Cisse in the centre. Possibly significant. Nail on head Everyone can see it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 The goal came from a movement when Ba was out on the wing and Cisse in the centre. Possibly significant. There definitely should be a less rigid option than 'Okay YOU must play here and YOU must play here'. I don't see why it can't be more fluid. A 4-3-3 but the players able to switch positions as and when. That said if both are desperate to play central it could throw up some problems and leave one side of the pitch a little bare. As long as players maintain that discipline of covering we should be fluid. If Anita shifts right forward someone should tuck in for example. It helps cause other teams problems because they have different players up against them all the time and difficult to predict movement rather than the rigid shit we often produce Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Or someone that has more interest in scoring than winning. Not saying Ba isn't one but natural goalscorer's don't always have to shoot. Again, not the worst trait to have when youre as good as Ba. yorkie- its fair enough- I think bas goals are coming at the expense of team moral- honestly believe we will do better with him gone and cisse as CF. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 The goal came from a movement when Ba was out on the wing and Cisse in the centre. Possibly significant. There definitely should be a less rigid option than 'Okay YOU must play here and YOU must play here'. I don't see why it can't be more fluid. A 4-3-3 but the players able to switch positions as and when. That said if both are desperate to play central it could throw up some problems and leave one side of the pitch a little bare. There was a less rigid option played last season, with Cisse starting centre but all of them filling in where needed, at times Cisse would be filling in at left back (as would Ba). This season when we have played 4-3-3 that system has been abandoned, with Ba either playing centrally or not on the pitch. I've said it before but if you want evidence of that (other than watching the games) look no further than Shola coming on to play in a front 3 and playing on the wing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Or someone that has more interest in scoring than winning. Not saying Ba isn't one but natural goalscorers don't always have to shoot. At worst it's greed, at best poor decision making. Funnily enough I think Drogba suffered from it too at times, but he obviously had more to his game to make up for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 There was a moment in the first half when Cisse looked fuming at Ba for shooting when he was in the middle waiting for the pass. Would have taken a very good pass from Ba but if he hit him then it was a tap in. Any striker worth his salt would have taken that shot on man Tell that to Cisse, I'm simply stating a fact. Tbf like he hardly troubled the keeper iirc whereas he could have given someone else a tap in, as I say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 There was a moment in the first half when Cisse looked fuming at Ba for shooting when he was in the middle waiting for the pass. Would have taken a very good pass from Ba but if he hit him then it was a tap in. Any striker worth his salt would have taken that shot on man Tell that to Cisse, I'm simply stating a fact. Tbf like he hardly troubled the keeper iirc whereas he could have given someone else a tap in, as I say. Sorry this is just looking for a reason to have a dig at Ba, stuff like this happens every game, strikers hold their hands up in a 'what the fuck' manner all the time So Ba was in the box, had a bit of space and chose to shoot rather than pass to Cisse who had 2-3 defenders in between him and Ba. Nah Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 There was a moment in the first half when Cisse looked fuming at Ba for shooting when he was in the middle waiting for the pass. Would have taken a very good pass from Ba but if he hit him then it was a tap in. Any striker worth his salt would have taken that shot on man Tell that to Cisse, I'm simply stating a fact. Tbf like he hardly troubled the keeper iirc whereas he could have given someone else a tap in, as I say. Sorry this is just looking for a reason to have a dig at Ba, stuff like this happens every game, strikers hold their hands up in a 'what the fuck' manner all the time So Ba was in the box, had a bit of space and chose to shoot rather than pass to Cisse who had 2-3 defenders in between him and Ba. Nah Aye, totally agree with this. It's frustrating when you've got the benefit of a birds-eye-view and know that it's not the best option, but i'll rarely begrudge a player for taking a shot on once they're in/around the box. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 There was a moment in the first half when Cisse looked fuming at Ba for shooting when he was in the middle waiting for the pass. Would have taken a very good pass from Ba but if he hit him then it was a tap in. Any striker worth his salt would have taken that shot on man Tell that to Cisse, I'm simply stating a fact. Tbf like he hardly troubled the keeper iirc whereas he could have given someone else a tap in, as I say. Sorry this is just looking for a reason to have a dig at Ba, stuff like this happens every game, strikers hold their hands up in a 'what the fuck' manner all the time So Ba was in the box, had a bit of space and chose to shoot rather than pass to Cisse who had 2-3 defenders in between him and Ba. Nah You're wrong. I'm not even having a dig at Ba, simply stating what I saw. It doesn't matter who'd done it, I'd have probably mentioned it, you need to calm down about this Ba stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 your right polic ba is a ba player, cisse is a team player. I agree with you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Ba's just a glory-hog; he's still a team player. Like i said earlier in the thread, it's hardly the worst thing to have when you're as good at sticking it in the net as Ba is. He could do with working on his shooting from range, though. It's never that good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 pathetic. I hope you mentioned Cisse backheeling it out vs Wigan when he had absolutely no chance of scoring, Ba was standing there in space and if he left it we would have had a corner? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 pathetic. I hope you mentioned Cisse backheeling it out vs Wigan when he had absolutely no chance of scoring, Ba was standing there in space and if he left it we would have had a corner? No need. Getting a bit daft now, you can't even mention a passage of play without someone jumping down your throat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Sorry it's just a mental thing to try and take a dig at him for especially as it's the sort of thing you see forwards do every game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Sorry it's just a mental thing to try and take a dig at him for especially as it's the sort of thing you see forwards do every game. I gat yo back, brotha. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Sorry it's just a mental thing to try and take a dig at him for especially as it's the sort of thing you see forwards do every game. I gat yo back, brotha. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Ba shoots nigh on every time from 40 yards tbh. Fair enough when he's in the box, but that does my head in almost as much as Tiote shooting does. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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