Cajun Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 I thought that only counted if we have offered a contract? That's how we got Gosling on a free because Evertons contract offer was only a gentlemans agreement and nothing put in writing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 I thought that only counted if we have offered a contract? That's how we got Gosling on a free because Evertons contract offer was only a gentlemans agreement and nothing put in writing. Gosling was an oversight by Everton, they didn't offer him a contract by a specific deadline (whenever that is for a contract), thats why he moved without a fee at all. Kadar, if we dont offer him a contract and we wont get any compensation at all, as its our choice to let him go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Assuming we don't want him at all, can we offer him a contract of £1/wk just to ensure compensation? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Assuming we don't want him at all, can we offer him a contract of £1/wk just to ensure compensation? No you can do it that way, theres a limit to what you can cut if you offer less wages, not sure exactly of the figures but it'll be less a percentage of what he is already on, something along those lines. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Makes sense. Don't see the harm in us offering the lowest wages allowed. He probably won't sign and I'm sure he's on peanuts at the moment (comparatively speaking). Really a mystery that he's not involved at all. Would really like to know what happened. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Assuming we don't want him at all, can we offer him a contract of £1/wk just to ensure compensation? No you can do it that way, theres a limit to what you can cut if you offer less wages, not sure exactly of the figures but it'll be less a percentage of what he is already on, something along those lines. Has to be offered the same basic wage or more iirc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Assuming we don't want him at all, can we offer him a contract of £1/wk just to ensure compensation? No you can do it that way, theres a limit to what you can cut if you offer less wages, not sure exactly of the figures but it'll be less a percentage of what he is already on, something along those lines. Has to be offered the same basic wage or more iirc. I'm thought they changed that ruling a couple of years back, or your right of course Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Makes sense. Don't see the harm in us offering the lowest wages allowed. He probably won't sign and I'm sure he's on peanuts at the moment (comparatively speaking). Really a mystery that he's not involved at all. Would really like to know what happened. From what Douglas has said and Pardew's team selections, looks like Pardew just doesn't rate him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Mirror reckons Watford have offered the player an £800 per week payrise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 We'd probably offer him a £900 payrise with our final offer tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 They reckon we've upped our bid by £750k to £2m but they rejected it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Wouldn't go any higher. Need Graham Carr to find us another foreign gem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 We'd probably offer him a £900 payrise with our final offer tbh. Nah we'd probably offer £800. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Keep reading the first part of this thread title as "Watford - NUFC miles away" and think "well, yes, obviously they are." http://i3.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/006/216/7nTnr.png Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 He has knocked back a pay rise offer from Watford, extra £800 per week http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/transfer-news/Transfer-gossip-Newcastle-2m-bid-for-Adrian-Mariappa-insulting-say-Watford-as-player-rejects-800-a-week-pay-rise-article857428.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 He has knocked back a pay rise offer from Watford, extra £800 per week http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/transfer-news/Transfer-gossip-Newcastle-2m-bid-for-Adrian-Mariappa-insulting-say-Watford-as-player-rejects-800-a-week-pay-rise-article857428.html I'd be ecstatic if I earned £800 a week let alone get an £800 increase. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocksammy Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 Dyche told the Mirror: “When you think about Connor Wickham going for £8.1m [from Ipswich to Sunderland in the summer] and Matt Mills' transfer [from Reading] to Leicester for £5.5m, that’s the going rate for players moving in and around our division.” What the fuck is he smoking and who does he think we are ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 Dyche told the Mirror: “When you think about Connor Wickham going for £8.1m [from Ipswich to Sunderland in the summer] and Matt Mills' transfer [from Reading] to Leicester for £5.5m, that’s the going rate for players moving in and around our division.” What the fuck is he smoking and who does he think we are ? A team who sold a player for £35m this time last year? Don't think he's doing anything wrong in trying to squeeze as much out as possible for one of his best players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakka Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 Dyche told the Mirror: “When you think about Connor Wickham going for £8.1m [from Ipswich to Sunderland in the summer] and Matt Mills' transfer [from Reading] to Leicester for £5.5m, that’s the going rate for players moving in and around our division.” What the fuck is he smoking and who does he think we are ? A team who sold a player for £35m this time last year? Don't think he's doing anything wrong in trying to squeeze as much out as possible for one of his best players. I don't blame Watford either. It's a tough division anyway and only harder when big clubs can unsettle your players with bids that get made public. If they are to lose a player to a team that believes he can play in a higher division then naturally they will want an offer that makes it worth them selling him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocksammy Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 comparing apples to oranges though in my opinion and fair enough hes protecting his player but really could have done so in a better fashion Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakka Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 comparing apples to oranges though in my opinion and fair enough hes protecting his player but really could have done so in a better fashion Why? What would be a better fashion? Surely the way he has delivered the message is on purpose to keep us away or only come back with a big money offer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocksammy Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 comparing apples to oranges though in my opinion and fair enough hes protecting his player but really could have done so in a better fashion Why? What would be a better fashion? Surely the way he has delivered the message is on purpose to keep us away or only come back with a big money offer. Explain the situation to the player, negotiate with him a fair release price, waive loyalty fees etc, keep it in house and all on verbal terms, if its NUFC who made the leak to the press, deny it till you die. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 comparing apples to oranges though in my opinion and fair enough hes protecting his player but really could have done so in a better fashion Why? What would be a better fashion? Surely the way he has delivered the message is on purpose to keep us away or only come back with a big money offer. Explain the situation to the player, negotiate with him a fair release price, waive loyalty fees etc, keep it in house and all on verbal terms, if its NUFC who made the leak to the press, deny it till you die. Fuck that, spark a bidding war. I see little wrong with what we've done - it's not particularly tactful, but we are a small club who need every penny we can get for our players - if you look at our net spend and accounts over the past few years, you'll see that we pretty much rely on selling players on, to scrimp on that for the sake of saving face/whatever is ridiculous. It's hardly pathetic either - it's a reasonable thing to do in this kind of situation - especially when there are other clubs (Swansea) who have registered strong interest in the player in the recent past, why wouldn't we want competing bids? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 Think all of that's very fair, to be honest. What do you make of Dyche down there generally GG? I thought he'd struggle based on what I knew of his character, think he's the most alpha male I've ever seen in my life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 Give them £1m, a bit of a sell on fee and play them down there in July. Sorted. [/fm] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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