Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Has anyone got anything that shows how much Di Canio spent at Swindon comparative to other teams around them at the time? I think the correct quantitative term is 'A fuck load'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 There is some absolute nonsense being spouted in this thread "football and politics are separate" FFS Though I disagree, I have no problem with those saying they should be separate but to ignore even something as close to home as the old firm is ridiculous. No is suggesting they are separate are they though? We are suggesting they should be separate. Football is a sport, its a global sport where kids go watching games, its entertainment. I don't see many club campaigning for politicians in elections, I don't see any club adopting an ideology. Football as a sport has grown from that time, nowadays it's more 'company politics' rather than real politics. It exists obviously, but that is what is dirty about the sport. In my opinion we only find clear evidence of politics in the highest governing body of football FIFA and Sepp Blatter. Like I said, most know there is politics involved in football, but I don't agree with you or Icke on how you suggest football works today. Yes, at least one person did: You've just massively oversimplified the rivalry between Real and Barca. Well done. Your argument is that politics and sport should remain separate however they are not. No amount of hand wringing will change that. They're linked and forever will be. I'm sorry if that upsets you. I've also never once tried to prescribe a political leaning to NUFC. You've simply assumed I have. Yes they are man. We have 50K crowds made up of people from all walks of life and all political persuasions. PDC's politics are irrelavent and like the above poster said we should be more concerned about any positive impact he has in terms of motivation despite his weak managerial cv. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkzter Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/2637/30cyhi0.jpg Amazing :lol: Superb! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 NSIG http://www.sunderlandecho.com/sport/sunderland-afc/safc-news/di-canio-sunderland-players-must-follow-strict-rules-or-get-a-kick-up-the-bottom-1-5543060#.UVr7nvGK_ps.twitter Says he's taken all his Swindon groupies. League 2 coaches galore! Looks like he's going to begin by sorting out the anarchists Did he really say that or is it a piss take ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Sorry about that JB hadn't seen that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Anyway, what happened to Moyes ? Did he decide to stay at Everton or was he just not right wing enough for the new Sunderland regime ? 2 big of a step up marra Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 This thread. http://i.imgur.com/ICoLcip.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Lets get back at laughing at them for hiring a league one manager Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Lets get back at laughing at them for hiring a league one manager and they've never managed to find a good manager who could get them to 5th and Europe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Re: Is Paolo our most stylish gaffer? Quote: Originally Posted by GingerNick I am growing my sidies already I am too. Not sure a Ginger one will look as good mind, slightly paedophilic ;P http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?t=771386&page=2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Lets get back at laughing at them for hiring a league one manager Erm, we hired a sacked League One manager Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Lets get back at laughing at them for hiring a league one manager Erm, we hired a sacked League One manager Not really, Pardew (im not defending the cunt btw) had past experience in the prem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-421 Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Bennett on Total Sport just said he thinks there will now be some [pro-fascist] people, in Sunderland jerseys 'infiltrating' the crowd, in attempt to 'Influence' people, following Di Canio's appiontment. Think BBC Newcastle might need to find a new co-commentator for SunderLOL's matches soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 From what I've read about his approach to football he prefers to play a traditional 442 and is big on discipline above all else. Doesn't sound like a modern day football manager capable of managing a top flight side at all. I can't wait to see how his millionaire prima donnas will react to his management style, and in turn how their board and owner will react once they realise a number of their high earners are completely overlooked while they run down their contract/sold for a huge loss. I would love to know what Short's thinking was behind this appointment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 That's a cracking post, has to be the best post ever made on there. Aye, some of the responses he gets as well .... Basically your standard 'fuck off' but put like 'terminate your card and dont come back' fucking idiots on there Dying laughing at the responses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 The difference between fascist beliefs and conservative, liberal socialist, green, raving looney beliefs, is that the former doesn't sit inside the democratic sphere of allowing other people to have different opinions and in trying to change minds (however much this actually happens hah), whereas fascism ideologically disagrees with this, doesn't believe in engaging with a democratic system which it regards as corrupt and sees violence and intimidation as vital tools. You are allowed to hold these views mind, as long as you do not carry it out. Having him have a high profile position is a terrible message. On the other hand I am always complaining about the media's dislike of eccentricity, so seems a tad hypocritical of me to jump on him just cos his 'eccentricity' is particularly unsavory. But being a fascist shouldn't be a charming quirk, it isn't a valid political position in a society that values free speech and equality and it isn't viable to totally disassociate football and politics. It's appalling to see a premiership club to be seen to embrace it, racist or not, fascism is a violent ideology. Ultimately maybe he'll be just as much a clown and maybe the influence of his fascism won't extend much at all, possibly everyone will laugh at him for a while and then he'll be gone. Mussolini was charming too though, people keep saying he's 'likeable and good' despite being a fascist, of course fascists can seem that way, they charmed half the population then beat up the other half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 From what I've read about his approach to football he prefers to play a traditional 442 and is big on discipline above all else. Doesn't sound like a modern day football manager capable of managing a top flight side at all. I can't wait to see how his millionaire prima donnas will react to his management style, and in turn how their board and owner will react once they realise a number of their high earners are completely overlooked while they run down their contract/sold for a huge loss. I would love to know what Short's thinking was behind this appointment. I'm not sure he has the slightest understanding about how "soccer" works, but it seems he has been very badly advised by those he consults on these matters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikri Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 From what I've read about his approach to football he prefers to play a traditional 442 and is big on discipline above all else. Doesn't sound like a modern day football manager capable of managing a top flight side at all. I can't wait to see how his millionaire prima donnas will react to his management style, and in turn how their board and owner will react once they realise a number of their high earners are completely overlooked while they run down their contract/sold for a huge loss. I would love to know what Short's thinking was behind this appointment. From talking to some Sunderland fans at work today they seem to think that the biggest risk isn't that he's a nutter, or that the media are having a field day with his appointment but rather that he might have given the players an excuse to not perform. They've sacked the previous media and player friendly manager He's too much of a disciplinarian He's a racist His appointment has turned fans away His appointment has added too much media pressure on the team Their best goal-scorer is injured etc. The squad have a ready made list of reasons to turn in half-hearted performances. If they go a goal down, there are reasons why they can simply not try, they'll still get paid after all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 tiredisas pls. We´re finally onto something again in this thread Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 http://www.kickitout.org/news.php/news_id/5829 UK] Kick It Out releases statement on Paolo Di Canio appointment Tuesday 2 Apr 2013 Kick It Out has released a statement following Sunderland's recent appointment of Paolo Di Canio as head coach. The statement reads: “It is not part of Kick It Out’s remit to sanction the selection of staff of football clubs. However, football clubs have a responsibility to ensure that their employees demonstrate a commitment to anti-discrimination and equality of opportunity. It may be in the interest of both the club and Mr Di Canio to acknowledge a full and frank commitment to these policies. “It is all too easy for positive progress and engagement to be compromised by inappropriate statements, and both Sunderland supporters and members of its local community will be looking for reassurance on these points. “When fascism is referenced within the context of English football, there is a wider concern. The spectre of the rise of far-right groups in some parts of Europe cannot be allowed to undermine the progress made in the game domestically, and the increasing number of incidents involving both neo-Nazi and Ultra groups which have happened in places like Italy and Greece, must not be replicated here. “Kick It Out and its partners have held concerns for some time about similar groups operating in the UK. Now is the time to reinforce this vigilance.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Did they do the interview with Di Canio in the corner of some small room? Not exactly the same as Newcastle's press room. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 This really was the worst appointment imaginable for them, wasn't it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
healthyaddiction Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 This really was the worst appointment imaginable for them, wasn't it? They could have hired Joe Kinnear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 From what I've read about his approach to football he prefers to play a traditional 442 and is big on discipline above all else. Doesn't sound like a modern day football manager capable of managing a top flight side at all. I can't wait to see how his millionaire prima donnas will react to his management style, and in turn how their board and owner will react once they realise a number of their high earners are completely overlooked while they run down their contract/sold for a huge loss. I would love to know what Short's thinking was behind this appointment. He sounds like a more controversial version of Souness when you put it that way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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