Raconteur Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 O'Neill is so backwards. Aren't there multiple peer-reviewed studies showing that the effects of a proper drinking night can last up to a week? Especially the dehydration which normally lasts up to a few days. That's what Di Canio was talking about when describing hungover players as being "blurry for three or four days" in that press conference. You'd think in this day and age, with all of our access to medical and sports science, that in-season drinking bans would be almost universal for professional athletes. I mean, I don't get drinking myself, but it boggles my mind that people being paid squillions of dollars are willing to degrade their ability to perform at peak ability for the sake of... whatever drinking does for you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stozo Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 I still think the Di Canio thing will all end in tears for Sunderland but I've got respect for him taking the stance he is taking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 I still think the Di Canio thing will all end in tears for Sunderland but I've got respect for him taking the stance he is taking. So have I. He shouldn't be doing it all in public, and so emotionally, though. That's going to end in a bad place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Bozos. Not heard that in years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 On the subject of Dickie Dunne, what's he up to these days? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 MON whilst with us also never used to believe in things like extra training sessions after a defeat. In fact, his reaction to a bad defeat was to send everyone home for a few days. Can't remember which departing player it was, but one of the bozos we have shipped out recently said that if they got beaten on a Saturday, they'd quite frequently not have to train till Wednesday, and they wouldn't see the manager at all till Thursday. Basically, he'd just let Bibs and Cones (Walford and Robertson's nicknames from the players) 'organise' the training. That is probably why Houllier was so shocked by the lack of professionalism, and why certain players (two easy to guess first choice defenders) rolled up to training one day still pissed, and why a team bonding day ended up with a first team squad member punching Gordon Cowans. If there's one member of the Villa coaching staff over the last few years you don't want to be punching, it is Cowans. You also do have to wonder how much discipline there was around when MON got into a training ground fight with Nigel Reo-Coker. Unbelievable from a Premiership club that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 On the subject of Dickie Dunne, what's he up to these days? Trying to maneouvre his fat arse through the door marked EXIT by all accounts. http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-richard-dunne-told-3897597 Shame. Had one exceptional season for us, then ruined it with his lack of professionalism. He was always shockingly out of shape at the start of seasons. I believe he was actually the heaviest player in the PL, and it is not remotely surprising. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Either him or Nolan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Either him or Nolan. Nolan's slimmed down a lot this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Nah, he just looks thin next to Allardyce. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WashyGeordie Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Clive Mendonca (sunlan' legend) was apparently in Nissan today for a line-trial. Apparently got a gambling problem and wasted all his money too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosenrot Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Di Canio took over from Martin O'Neill as manager of the Tyneside club in March and has won two of his seven games in charge to help the club avoid relegation. From this article: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22608572 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WashyGeordie Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Clive Mendonca (sunlan' legend) was apparently in Nissan today for a line-trial. Apparently got a gambling problem and wasted all his money too. Clive Mendonca who scored a hat-trick against Sunderland in the play-off final? Yep Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 So the PFA say di Canio cannot be "a law unto himself". Obviously don't understand much about fascism in that case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 He's doing it the wrong way but he's absolutely right with his comments and while I've previously said this ubber disciplinarianism seems like an act of his, perhaps its not. Either way, footballers are far too pampered and there is a huge lack of professionalism in the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Players who are potential transfer targets for Sunderland will probably be very wary of signing for a club where the manager is a strict disciplinarian. Di Canio slagging off all the players he wants rid of will drive down the prices Sunderland will get for those players (if they can sell them). A bit like Harry Redknapp slagging off the QPR squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Players who are potential transfer targets for Sunderland will probably be very wary of signing for a club where the manager is a strict disciplinarian. Di Canio slagging off all the players he wants rid of will drive down the prices Sunderland will get for those players (if they can sell them). A bit like Harry Redknapp slagging off the QPR squad. Fucking loony more like it. Still the macums seem to think he's even more of a god than O'Neill was just a short while ago Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gleebals Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Ferguson was the strictest disciplinarian going IMO, it did them no harm. Just have to have the right culture, team, environment, success and this approach works very well IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Ferguson was the strictest disciplinarian going IMO, it did them no harm. Just have to have the right culture, team, environment, success and this approach works very well IMO. Ferguson's style seems very different to PDC though. I can't imagine Fergie just going out and looking for every little excuse to bollock and fine his players. They may have got the hairdryer treatment on occasion but it was generally justified. Fining players 2 weeks wages for being a bit late or not signing some memorabilia is absurd. He's just picking fights to try and enhance his own reputation as a disciplinarian. Basically, Ferguson would be hard for the good of the team, Di Canio does it for the glorification of Paolo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Plus Ferguson actually had the trophies to justify his disciplinarian streak. Di Canio is a League 1 manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Might work though. To say its authoritarian or dictatorial doesn't mean it won't work. Of course it could go wrong but no more than any other style of motivation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-421 Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Ferguson was the strictest disciplinarian going IMO, it did them no harm. Just have to have the right culture, team, environment, success and this approach works very well IMO. Was that from day one though? It seems Di Canio has gone in there with all guns blazing, spouting off in the media to anyone who'll listen, which is probably the biggest mistake I think... making all this public. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Ferguson was the strictest disciplinarian going IMO, it did them no harm. Just have to have the right culture, team, environment, success and this approach works very well IMO. Was that from day one though? It seems Di Canio has gone in there with all guns blazing, spouting off in the media to anyone who'll listen, which is probably the biggest mistake I think... making all this public. Yes, he famously got rid of the best central defender I've seen due to his drinking , very early in his Manchester United career. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Ferguson was the strictest disciplinarian going IMO, it did them no harm. Just have to have the right culture, team, environment, success and this approach works very well IMO. Was that from day one though? It seems Di Canio has gone in there with all guns blazing, spouting off in the media to anyone who'll listen, which is probably the biggest mistake I think... making all this public. Yes, he famously got rid of the best central defender I've seen due to his drinking , very early in his Manchester United career. Big difference between a drinking problem which will likely be affecting not only performances on the pitch but other squad members too and not signing some club tat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Ferguson was the strictest disciplinarian going IMO, it did them no harm. Just have to have the right culture, team, environment, success and this approach works very well IMO. Was that from day one though? It seems Di Canio has gone in there with all guns blazing, spouting off in the media to anyone who'll listen, which is probably the biggest mistake I think... making all this public. Yes, he famously got rid of the best central defender I've seen due to his drinking , very early in his Manchester United career. Big difference between a drinking problem which will likely be affecting not only performances on the pitch but other squad members too and not signing some club tat. If anything McGrath performed better after leaving though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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