ponsaelius Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 I'm not comparing the crimes. I'm just saying that whatever the crime, the players nearly always get re-signed upon release. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED209 Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Footballer Ched Evans has been jailed for five years for raping a 19-year-old woman, while another player, Clayton McDonald, has been cleared. Wales and Sheffield United striker Evans, 23, was convicted by a jury at Caernarfon Crown Court. Both he and Port Vale defender McDonald, also 23, had denied rape at a Premier Inn near Rhyl, Denbighshire. The men admitted having sex with the woman on 30 May, 2011 but said it was consensual. During the trial, the jury saw video interviews in which the woman, now 20, said she could not remember what happened and feared her drinks were spiked. She could not remember travelling to the hotel, but woke up in a double bed. "My clothes were scattered around on the floor," she said. "I just didn't know how I got there, if I had gone there with anyone. I was confused and dazed." The court heard that Evans, whose mother lives in Rhyl, had invited McDonald and others for a bank holiday night out in the seaside town on 29 May. Because there was not enough space at Evans' mother's house, he booked McDonald into the hotel. Clayton McDonald Defender Clayton McDonald signed for Port Vale last season The court heard that McDonald met the woman and took her back to the hotel room, sending a text to Evans stating he had "got a bird". During Evans' evidence, he told the jury he had gone to the hotel, let himself into McDonald's room and watched his friend and the woman having sex. It was claimed McDonald asked if his friend could "get involved", to which the woman said yes. The prosecution claimed that while the attack happened, Jack Higgins, an "associate" of the footballers, and Ryan Roberts, Mr Evans' brother, watched through a window. The court heard the defendants had known each other since they were 10 years old and shared digs when they played for Manchester City's youth academy. First I've really heard on this but yeah how the hell can Evans get done and not McDonald if the girl can't even remember going back to the hotel?? Anyway if he did it he deserves to be sent down. This his career finished. Perhaps DNA proved Evans had intercourse with her and didnt in the case of the other fella? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Intercourse FFS. Howay man, we're not in the court room now. Personally, I always use the word "coitous" in a nod to Sheldon from the Big Bang Theory. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bonk Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Ched's life post prison: http://i.imgur.com/6HbOB.png Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 5 years seem soft for such a crime Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ameritoon Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 The victim bashing in the RTG thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-east-wales-17731510 Thats an interesting read like. The other fella brought her back to the hotel so surely he's equally, if not more guilty? How does this even work? In that it says she started getting it on with the other lad, surely if shes too drunk to consent for one, shes too drunk to consent for the other? Given that she cant remember a thing, how the hell has one been sent down and the other not? Bizzare. Must admit it doesnt sound at all right mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Still I always said he had a heavy first touch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 He's the one Saylor had a bit of a barny with when at Blackburn. Saylor knew Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 He's the one Saylor had a bit of a barny with when at Blackburn. Saylor knew FFS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bonk Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Still I always said he had a heavy first touch. http://www.sadtrombone.com/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Sceptical of this. If in doubt, they cannot convict him. She says she cannot remember anything, which does not mean she was passed out as someone said above. How can they then take her word for it if all his mates and himself contradicts what she is saying? To much of a grey area to "take sides" in this case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 He's the one Saylor had a bit of a barny with when at Blackburn. Saylor knew Eh? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Sceptical of this. If in doubt, they cannot convict him. She says she cannot remember anything, which does not mean she was passed out as someone said above. How can they then take her word for it if all his mates and himself contradicts what she is saying? To much of a grey area to "take sides" in this case. Will be many elements to the whole thing but perhaps the stories of the 4 men involved weren't consistent either? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 3 years in prison, then it gets worse for him, 4 year contract at Sunderland. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Still I always said he had a heavy first touch. http://www.sadtrombone.com/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Taylor and Evans had a bust up a few years ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Going by whats been released in the papers I don't think this is a case for outright rape. The girl was drunk, can't remember what happened and assumed she had been raped. By all means it's statutory rape from the players because she's drunk but it's not rape as in pinning her down. If they have been convicted for rape and not statutory rape despite this then I think it's wrong as a case like this to the average Joe wouldn't end like this. I would have to assume that their was more evidence against them for a rape conviction apart from a girls absent memory and following conclusion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Sceptical of this. If in doubt, they cannot convict him. She says she cannot remember anything, which does not mean she was passed out as someone said above. How can they then take her word for it if all his mates and himself contradicts what she is saying? To much of a grey area to "take sides" in this case. Will be many elements to the whole thing but perhaps the stories of the 4 men involved weren't consistent either? It never is though, You can act a scene our situation out in from of 5 different people and ask all 5 people individually what happened and all of their stories will alter somewhat from each other. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Bit fishy this like. If he has raped her he wants his strudel chopped off though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oakie Doke Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Going by whats been released in the papers I don't think this is a case for outright rape. The girl was drunk, can't remember what happened and assumed she had been raped. By all means it's statutory rape from the players because she's drunk but it's not rape as in pinning her down. I suppose the moral of the story is never have sex. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Maybe, and you'll have to bear with me here as this is a big maybe, but maybe not every single detail of the trial is in the papers and the the decision was made based on an absolute fuckload more evidence than there is in this thread? Sorry, I know it's a long shot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Mowen with the jackpot shot. He's not going to get five years without a lot of evidence to back it up Edit: auto correct is a nobhead like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RR15 Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Dirty bugger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Taylor and Evans had a bust up a few years ago. What does Blackburn have to do with it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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