STM Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Guardiola's a good manager but... Pard's for me like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 To me, he has made his mind for a while and was just waiting until making it public wouldn't hurt the team (in this case, once we already lost the league and the CL ). Pep is quite special, he is very stubborn in his principles which sometimes works against him. I do think he believes that leaving is the best for Barça, because he probably thinks he's ran his course as our manager. I don't think he's right, but he probably does believe it. Reminds me when he asked to be sold, shocked everyone at the time but at the time he also said it was best for both club and player. It's going to be cold out there without him, but I was very gloomy when Rijkaard was sacked and an unexperienced local legend appointed instead. Who knows, we might make the right appointment again. Luis Enrique? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Pardew spotted on the tap in a bar on las Ramblas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzieMandias Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 If he does go, I hope they appoint someone really crap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 the job is Allardyce's, tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Told a mate the other night Pep would leave and Bielsa would come in. Pep's lost the plot at times this season. 3 at the back, starting inexperienced youngsters in the 3 biggest games of the season all in 1 week. Bringing on Keita on tuesday night when you need a goal with 15 minutes left and leaving Pedro on the bench was insane. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 To me, he has made his mind for a while and was just waiting until making it public wouldn't hurt the team (in this case, once we already lost the league and the CL ). Pep is quite special, he is very stubborn in his principles which sometimes works against him. I do think he believes that leaving is the best for Barça, because he probably thinks he's ran his course as our manager. I don't think he's right, but he probably does believe it. Reminds me when he asked to be sold, shocked everyone at the time but at the time he also said it was best for both club and player. It's going to be cold out there without him, but I was very gloomy when Rijkaard was sacked and an unexperienced local legend appointed instead. Who knows, we might make the right appointment again. Luis Enrique? Isn't he doing allright at Roma? Think Mou would have him for dinner over here though, too hot-headed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Andre Villas Boas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Told a mate the other night Pep would leave and Bielsa would come in. Pep's lost the plot at times this season. 3 at the back, starting inexperienced youngsters in the 3 biggest games of the season all in 1 week. Bringing on Keita on tuesday night when you need a goal with 15 minutes left and leaving Pedro on the bench was insane. He's always done weird lineups, it's nothing new. Most of the times they have paid off. Playing Pedro, Busquets, etc... in big games was met with the same raising of eyebrows (particularly remember how he was berated for benching Yayá in favor Busquets - not that Yayá wasn't a great player in the slightest) and they have went to become key to us. But it's true that we have had more instances of "bad Barça" this season than we used to, the whole pass it around with nothing happening thing. But then again, we still have had some magnificent games: Leverkusen at home, Valencia at home, Bernabéu in the league, Santos at the CWC... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 To me, he has made his mind for a while and was just waiting until making it public wouldn't hurt the team (in this case, once we already lost the league and the CL ). Pep is quite special, he is very stubborn in his principles which sometimes works against him. I do think he believes that leaving is the best for Barça, because he probably thinks he's ran his course as our manager. I don't think he's right, but he probably does believe it. Reminds me when he asked to be sold, shocked everyone at the time but at the time he also said it was best for both club and player. It's going to be cold out there without him, but I was very gloomy when Rijkaard was sacked and an unexperienced local legend appointed instead. Who knows, we might make the right appointment again. Luis Enrique? Isn't he doing allright at Roma? Think Mou would have him for dinner over here though, too hot-headed. They've been very inconsistent and he's getting a bit of criticism. But I think he's doing a decent, to be fair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Told a mate the other night Pep would leave and Bielsa would come in. Pep's lost the plot at times this season. 3 at the back, starting inexperienced youngsters in the 3 biggest games of the season all in 1 week. Bringing on Keita on tuesday night when you need a goal with 15 minutes left and leaving Pedro on the bench was insane. He's always done weird lineups, it's nothing new. Most of the times they have paid off. Playing Pedro, Busquets, etc... in big games was met with the same raising of eyebrows (particularly remember how he was berated for benching Yayá in favor Busquets - not that Yayá wasn't a great player in the slightest) and they have went to become key to us. But it's true that we have had more instances of "bad Barça" this season than we used to, the whole pass it around with nothing happening thing. But then again, we still have had some magnificent games: Leverkusen at home, Valencia at home, Bernabéu in the league, Santos at the CWC... Think his reliance on the youngsters to perform at this stage of the season was pretty silly this time though, considering the task at hand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Shaun Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Rafa Benitez for me, like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandamninator Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 To me, he has made his mind for a while and was just waiting until making it public wouldn't hurt the team (in this case, once we already lost the league and the CL ). Pep is quite special, he is very stubborn in his principles which sometimes works against him. I do think he believes that leaving is the best for Barça, because he probably thinks he's ran his course as our manager. I don't think he's right, but he probably does believe it. Reminds me when he asked to be sold, shocked everyone at the time but at the time he also said it was best for both club and player. It's going to be cold out there without him, but I was very gloomy when Rijkaard was sacked and an unexperienced local legend appointed instead. Who knows, we might make the right appointment again. Luis Enrique? Wonder if Enrique is regretting not hanging on at Barca B for one more season before looking for a top flight job elsehwhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppe Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 To me, he has made his mind for a while and was just waiting until making it public wouldn't hurt the team (in this case, once we already lost the league and the CL ). Pep is quite special, he is very stubborn in his principles which sometimes works against him. I do think he believes that leaving is the best for Barça, because he probably thinks he's ran his course as our manager. I don't think he's right, but he probably does believe it. Reminds me when he asked to be sold, shocked everyone at the time but at the time he also said it was best for both club and player. It's going to be cold out there without him, but I was very gloomy when Rijkaard was sacked and an unexperienced local legend appointed instead. Who knows, we might make the right appointment again. What are Pep's strengths (and weaknesses) as a manager? Genuine question as I don't watch Barcelona a lot except the odd CL-game. Kinda curious as a lot of people keep saying "well anyone can do that! (Manage Barca and win what he's won) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 To me, he has made his mind for a while and was just waiting until making it public wouldn't hurt the team (in this case, once we already lost the league and the CL ). Pep is quite special, he is very stubborn in his principles which sometimes works against him. I do think he believes that leaving is the best for Barça, because he probably thinks he's ran his course as our manager. I don't think he's right, but he probably does believe it. Reminds me when he asked to be sold, shocked everyone at the time but at the time he also said it was best for both club and player. It's going to be cold out there without him, but I was very gloomy when Rijkaard was sacked and an unexperienced local legend appointed instead. Who knows, we might make the right appointment again. What are Pep's strengths (and weaknesses) as a manager? Genuine question as I don't watch Barcelona a lot except the odd CL-game. Kinda curious as a lot of people keep saying "well anyone can do that! (Manage Barca and win what he's won) This pretty much sums it up. http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/9315/25hd8ag.png Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tiresias Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 this season think the general feeling is his desire to keep tweaking and changing the formula let him down a bit (lets not forget still won most games and got to CL semi final), but trying to bring new players into the side that swept all before them last season seems to have lost the balance they had. 3 at the back hasn't worked out for them as hoped and they are narrow and predictable in attack. Losing Eto was ridiculous, and they do still need a out and out goalscorer since Villa got injured (he was out of form anyway wasn't he?) Sanchez who plays as their forward a lot is there to give space to messi behind him, that's what the team is built around, as Pep considered him the only completely unstoppable player. However when the team isn't quite working Messi still isn't enough, they lack a plan b, not necessarily a huge striker to lob balls up to, just someone whose going to shoot and score from outside the box. Guardiola maybe is too puritanica potentially about his style? Well anyway fantastic coach. Nobody can keep it up forever. Except pards *fingers crossed* Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpal78 Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 this season think the general feeling is his desire to keep tweaking and changing the formula let him down a bit (lets not forget still won most games and got to CL semi final), but trying to bring new players into the side that swept all before them last season seems to have lost the balance they had. 3 at the back hasn't worked out for them as hoped and they are narrow and predictable in attack. Losing Eto was ridiculous, and they do still need a out and out goalscorer since Villa got injured (he was out of form anyway wasn't he?) Sanchez who plays as their forward a lot is there to give space to messi behind him, that's what the team is built around, as Pep considered him the only completely unstoppable player. However when the team isn't quite working Messi still isn't enough, they lack a plan b, not necessarily a huge striker to lob balls up to, just someone whose going to shoot and score from outside the box. Guardiola maybe is too puritanica potentially about his style? Well anyway fantastic coach. Nobody can keep it up forever. Except pards *fingers crossed* Spot on actually. When things click, Barcelona is awesome. But when they don't they just don't have a Plan B and that was awfully obvious against Chelsea. They just kept passing the ball in front of Chelsea's 9 man wall and occasionally tries to penetrate through some intricate one-twos but they had nothing else in their armory. Was also quite surprised that bar Messi's shot against the post, nobody else was shooting from distance. Surely that would have been worth a shot given that their passing game was not getting them anywhere. It's like the whole team has been so well drilled with tiki taka passing to the extent that they became robots and were not able to adapt/react to Chelsea's defensive game plan. They kept on doing the same thing over and over until the final whistle. Wasn't sure if I was watching Barcelona or Swansea in that game against Chelsea Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Even if they didn't score a long shot, if they threatened to shoot chelsea players would have had to close them down just that extra few yards of space that messi could exploit behind. Chelsea knew they wouldn't shoot though and so could hang back a bit and block the runs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tyson Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 this season think the general feeling is his desire to keep tweaking and changing the formula let him down a bit (lets not forget still won most games and got to CL semi final), but trying to bring new players into the side that swept all before them last season seems to have lost the balance they had. 3 at the back hasn't worked out for them as hoped and they are narrow and predictable in attack. Losing Eto was ridiculous, and they do still need a out and out goalscorer since Villa got injured (he was out of form anyway wasn't he?) Sanchez who plays as their forward a lot is there to give space to messi behind him, that's what the team is built around, as Pep considered him the only completely unstoppable player. However when the team isn't quite working Messi still isn't enough, they lack a plan b, not necessarily a huge striker to lob balls up to, just someone whose going to shoot and score from outside the box. Guardiola maybe is too puritanica potentially about his style? Well anyway fantastic coach. Nobody can keep it up forever. Except pards *fingers crossed* Spot on actually. When things click, Barcelona is awesome. But when they don't they just don't have a Plan B and that was awfully obvious against Chelsea. They just kept passing the ball in front of Chelsea's 9 man wall and occasionally tries to penetrate through some intricate one-twos but they have nothing else in their armory. Was also quite surprised that bar Messi's shot against the post, nobody else was shooting from distance. Surely that would have been worth a shot given that their passing game was not getting them anywhere. It's like the likes whole team has been so well drilled with tiki taka passing to the extent that they became robots and were not able to adapt/react to Chelsea's defensive game plan. They kept on doing the same thing over and over until the final whistle. Wasn't sure if I was watching Barcelona or Swansea in that game against Chelsea That's what Yaya Toure brought to the mix. He'll instinctively shoot the trigger, when given half a chance. A big miss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tyson Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Even if they didn't score a long shot, if they threatened to shoot chelsea players would have had to close them down just that extra few yards of space that messi could exploit behind. Chelsea knew they wouldn't shoot though and so could hang back a bit and block the runs. Creating space for Messi's little diagonal runs off-the-ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 What are the odds on Rosell approaching Wenger if Pep goes? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 To be honest, in all sports, dopers should not be allowed to manage/coach the next generation of sports people. So morally he should not be managing Barca or anyone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Barcelona have missed David Villa so badly this 2nd half. They would have scored at least 1 more goal v Chelsea if he had been playing instead of one of the youngsters. They need a better defence as well, the defending for all of Chelsea's goals against them was awful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Gone according to Sky? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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