Mole_Toonfan Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 I seriously hope this guy does sign more than ever now mind. 6 months too late like! I liked what I saw of him at the Euros, was always available and wanted to bomb on at every opportunity. He seemed refreshingly more aggressive than the average French mercenary too. After tonight I bet he's itching to get out there and rampage down the right flank with Willo. he's not going to be a massive change on the defensive side (apart from the oppo being more wary of him getting the ball) I think its this attitude that full backs have to be stoppers first and foremost is what has been our downfall for some time now. In any wide position its essential for a player to be skillful and creative. Whether he can then go and kick lumps off the opposition winger comes secondary to me. If we'd have set up from the off this season with 3 centre backs and Santon & Fergie as wing backs, our league position would be much healthier right now. Its a back 3 that provides good defensive cover at all times. A system we never seem to want to play! definitly, full backs are the new goalkeepers in that they are so important but don't get the recognition, financially and tactically. Been saying that for a while, ridiculous how teams ignore how important they are. It's no coincidence that the best teams have f*cking quality attacking fullbacks. The best teams have quality everything. Not always they just make up for it having ridiculous amount of class in other areas.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Mags Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 George Caulkin @CaulkinTheTimes Pardew on Debuchy: “fingers crossed he passes the medical, that’s probably key to that." Says personal terms talks "have gone well." What the fuck does that even mean? Obviously a player passing a medical is vital otherwise what's the point? Pardew doesn't half come out with some shit. By far the worst "speaker" we've ever had as manager in my time supporting the club. JFK anyone?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 George Caulkin @CaulkinTheTimes Pardew on Debuchy: “fingers crossed he passes the medical, that’s probably key to that." Says personal terms talks "have gone well." What the f*** does that even mean? Obviously a player passing a medical is vital otherwise what's the point? Pardew doesn't half come out with some s***. By far the worst "speaker" we've ever had as manager in my time supporting the club. keegan would come out with stuff like that all the time, we were spending loads and playing well, no-one gave a shite. Nah. Example please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 JFK atleast never tried to pretend he was someone else, there was no airs or graces with him, if someone needed to be called a cunt he called them a cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 As long as he doesn't desperately try to blast balls past/through players, treat the ball like its going to rape him and can put his foot on the ball with his head up; looking to play a sensible pass, then I forsee a vast improvement. Let pards moan at him for not putting his foot in and running faster. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 JFK atleast never tried to pretend he was someone else, there was no airs or graces with him, if someone needed to be called a c*** he called them a c***. 100% Air and graces. Excellent way to describe Pardew. Absolutely hate the sound he makes when he pronounces his "s's". So fucking contrived trying to sound like something he's not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
morpeth mag Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 I think its this attitude that full backs have to be stoppers first and foremost is what has been our downfall for some time now. In any wide position its essential for a player to be skillful and creative. Whether he can then go and kick lumps off the opposition winger comes secondary to me. If we'd have set up from the off this season with 3 centre backs and Santon & Fergie as wing backs, our league position would be much healthier right now. Its a back 3 that provides good defensive cover at all times. A system we never seem to want to play! I don't think I've ever seen a team in the PL _choose_ to play with a back 3, would love to see us try it... if we had the personnel for it anyway (us having 3 good and healthy centerbacks, haha). Think Villa have been trying it which just goes to show that formations need time to embed. Personally think we have the full backs now to play 433 and that Colo would be great in such a formation. Maybe: Krul Taylor Colo Douglas Debuchy Cabaye Anita Santon HBA Cisse Marv (Remy) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Cabaye and Anita are far from ideal for such a formation, or I'd be in favour. Plus, Marveaux is too good through the middle to be put out there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
morpeth mag Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Cabaye and Anita are far from ideal for such a formation, or I'd be in favour. Plus, Marveaux is too good through the middle to be put out there. With three CB the CM positions are about passing and work rate rather than size. The front three are mobile but two must drop behind the ball when possession is lost. The key is speed on the break. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nikos34 Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 I seriously hope this guy does sign more than ever now mind. 6 months too late like! I liked what I saw of him at the Euros, was always available and wanted to bomb on at every opportunity. He seemed refreshingly more aggressive than the average French mercenary too. After tonight I bet he's itching to get out there and rampage down the right flank with Willo. he's not going to be a massive change on the defensive side (apart from the oppo being more wary of him getting the ball) I think its this attitude that full backs have to be stoppers first and foremost is what has been our downfall for some time now. In any wide position its essential for a player to be skillful and creative. Whether he can then go and kick lumps off the opposition winger comes secondary to me. If we'd have set up from the off this season with 3 centre backs and Santon & Fergie as wing backs, our league position would be much healthier right now. Its a back 3 that provides good defensive cover at all times. A system we never seem to want to play! definitly, full backs are the new goalkeepers in that they are so important but don't get the recognition, financially and tactically. (diagree re ferguson though, like the lad but think he needs time on loan) Well I don't think Ferguson has ever been given a genuine opportunity to shine to be honest. Whenever I've seen him play he has always impressed me. He's confident, quick, more than comfortable on the ball, a great crosser and he's a tough tackler despite his schoolboy appearance. Its such a shame he only ever seems to get a 10 minute cameo here and there when the game is, more often than not, already lost and the team has become disjointed. We need to start showing some faith in undoubtedly talented youngsters like him and Sammy and give them a fair run in our side for a change. Hate to say this........like Rodgers has done with Sterling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 I seriously hope this guy does sign more than ever now mind. 6 months too late like! I liked what I saw of him at the Euros, was always available and wanted to bomb on at every opportunity. He seemed refreshingly more aggressive than the average French mercenary too. After tonight I bet he's itching to get out there and rampage down the right flank with Willo. he's not going to be a massive change on the defensive side (apart from the oppo being more wary of him getting the ball) I think its this attitude that full backs have to be stoppers first and foremost is what has been our downfall for some time now. In any wide position its essential for a player to be skillful and creative. Whether he can then go and kick lumps off the opposition winger comes secondary to me. If we'd have set up from the off this season with 3 centre backs and Santon & Fergie as wing backs, our league position would be much healthier right now. Its a back 3 that provides good defensive cover at all times. A system we never seem to want to play! definitly, full backs are the new goalkeepers in that they are so important but don't get the recognition, financially and tactically. (diagree re ferguson though, like the lad but think he needs time on loan) Well I don't think Ferguson has ever been given a genuine opportunity to shine to be honest. Whenever I've seen him play he has always impressed me. He's confident, quick, more than comfortable on the ball, a great crosser and he's a tough tackler despite his schoolboy appearance. Its such a shame he only ever seems to get a 10 minute cameo here and there when the game is, more often than not, already lost and the team has become disjointed. We need to start showing some faith in undoubtedly talented youngsters like him and Sammy and give them a fair run in our side for a change. Hate to say this........like Rodgers has done with Sterling. na! just don't see it. i remember watching sterling v our reserves and he always looked a class above (in the rare live game adam campbell looks like this) sammy and ferguson didn't and neither have done enough at this level to make anyone think they deserve a run. hopefully they get a chance and prove their worth but right now they aren't worth the risk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Hopefully him and Ben Arfa will give us a similar threat that Baines and Pienaar do for Everton. Better than the no threat we currently have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 JFK atleast never tried to pretend he was someone else, there was no airs or graces with him, if someone needed to be called a cunt he called them a cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 The improvement he will bring over Simpson is immense. Add HBA back in and we are talking a top quality right side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 imo him coming in is vital just to give the place some sort of lift. He's not gonna fix all of our current problems by himself, but hopefully he can show his experience and help some of our other players. Happening far to late this transfer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 imo him coming in is vital just to give the place some sort of lift. He's not gonna fix all of our current problems by himself, but hopefully he can show his experience and help some of our other players. Happening far to late this transfer. i just hope his coming means tiote reverts to his basics.....aint holding my breath though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Tiote is off to AFCON now anyway so we won't have to deal with his crap performances for a while.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Hope he hits the ground running. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 imo him coming in is vital just to give the place some sort of lift. He's not gonna fix all of our current problems by himself, but hopefully he can show his experience and help some of our other players. Happening far to late this transfer. i just hope his coming means tiote reverts to his basics.....aint holding my breath though. That'll be kill on sight then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 I hear the patient that escaped from St Nic's today has been found... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 I like to think that he watched us going down the right-hand side and thought 'I can sort that out' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 i just hope his coming means tiote reverts to his basics.....aint holding my breath though. Tiote needs to stop worrying about bookings, just tackle and take whatever comes, it's his natural game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 I hear the patient that escaped from St Nic's today has been found... Pity he wasn't found before handing our teamsheet to the ref. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 i just hope his coming means tiote reverts to his basics.....aint holding my breath though. Tiote needs to stop worrying about bookings, just tackle and take whatever comes, it's his natural game. It's not just that, biggest worry is his decision making , not knowing when to get rid of the ball and when he does get rid it never reaches a team mate. His overall play has been shocking compared to the standards of last season, I'm convinced his head has been turned by some whispers from his agent and such. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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