Stottie Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Garbage yesterday. I reckon it was his worst game for us. Gave it away numerous times and put us back under pressure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 First half he was absolutely woeful like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Started well this season but he's back to what I expect from him. Thought he'd turned a corner but seems that was blind hope than anything based on the truth. We've some fucking awful players on the books. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 On 08/11/2015 at 11:06, Toon's Taylor said: We've some fucking awful players on the books. And the worst part is that we've such a set of clueless bellends at the club that we'll never force the shit out at a significant loss to clear the decks so we'll have all the shit hanging around until their contracts expire. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 On 08/11/2015 at 11:08, mrmojorisin75 said: Quote We've some fucking awful players on the books. And the worst part is that we've such a set of clueless bellends at the club that we'll never force the shit out at a significant loss to clear the decks so we'll have all the shit hanging around until their contracts expire. Apart from Cabella...so strange that deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 On 08/11/2015 at 11:09, Toon's Taylor said: Quote Quote We've some fucking awful players on the books. And the worst part is that we've such a set of clueless bellends at the club that we'll never force the shit out at a significant loss to clear the decks so we'll have all the shit hanging around until their contracts expire. Apart from Cabella...so strange that deal. But that wasn't a significant loss though afaik, we maybe lost a couple of mil on the deal but in order to get rid of the likes of Tiote, Anita et al we're going to have to let them go for almost nothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
morpeth mag Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Out of Anita, Colbeck and Tiote I'd start Anita to go with Sissoko and Wijnaldum in CM. I agree he was poor yesterday and we need a player like Matic (last season's version) in a future transfer window. I think part of the problem yesterday was the pairing with Tiote. Anita seemed to come to RB as Janmaat pushed on. I don't recall him splitting the CBs like he has for much of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 As much as he was poor yesterday, as an individual he's our best midfielder. It's time to move Wijanldum back and start Thauvin, whether Tiote or Anita makes way is a matter of personal preference I reckon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 the coward thing was mooted pretty early in mcclaren's tenure and it was shot down by a lot on here but after that showing if thauvin isn't starting vs. leicester with wijnaldum taking the place of anita or tiote i'm not sure what other term can be used for the guy he seems terrified of making any difficult decisions, unless that decision is dropping someone easy like thauvin, but then i suppose it's not a difficult one in that case Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 You say that like it's an obvious decision when it really isn't. Changing the team as you suggest would pretty much negate our top scorer's attacking contribution, to accommodate a player who has looked better in late cameos when he's come off the bench. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 On 08/11/2015 at 12:56, mozy said: You say that like it's an obvious decision when it really isn't. Changing the team as you suggest would pretty much negate our top scorer's attacking contribution, to accommodate a player who has looked better in late cameos when he's come off the bench. perhaps if we have a player like thauvin on the wing playing with confidence it'd open up more opportunities for wijnaldum through the middle? there are no absolutes but i'd strongly argue that giving thauvin 10 minutes here or there is going to achieve the sum total of fuck all for his development Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 On 08/11/2015 at 13:03, mrmojorisin75 said: Quote You say that like it's an obvious decision when it really isn't. Changing the team as you suggest would pretty much negate our top scorer's attacking contribution, to accommodate a player who has looked better in late cameos when he's come off the bench. perhaps if we have a player like thauvin on the wing playing with confidence it'd open up more opportunities for wijnaldum through the middle? there are no absolutes but i'd strongly argue that giving thauvin 10 minutes here or there is going to achieve the sum total of fuck all for his development Whether we like it or not it seems like McClaren is set on having two CM's who by and large hold their position in the middle of the park. I'm very hesitant to move Wijnaldum out of the spot he's done so well in and into a deeper role, as much as I want to see Tiote and Anita's "partnership" broken up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 On 08/11/2015 at 13:08, Shak said: Quote Quote You say that like it's an obvious decision when it really isn't. Changing the team as you suggest would pretty much negate our top scorer's attacking contribution, to accommodate a player who has looked better in late cameos when he's come off the bench. perhaps if we have a player like thauvin on the wing playing with confidence it'd open up more opportunities for wijnaldum through the middle? there are no absolutes but i'd strongly argue that giving thauvin 10 minutes here or there is going to achieve the sum total of fuck all for his development Whether we like it or not it seems like McClaren is set on having two CM's who by and large hold their position in the middle of the park. I'm very hesitant to move Wijnaldum out of the spot he's done so well in and into a deeper role, as much as I want to see Tiote and Anita's "partnership" broken up. I'm not convinced that's his chosen style personally, rather an acknowledgment that his CM options are Anita, Tiote and Colback and they're not capable of anything else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 I'm not sure from the little I've seen of Wijnaldum that he's particularly creative either. Strikes me as a much better and more consistent Sissoko. We are crying out for a Coquelin type DM who has the legs and aggression to hold by himself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 On 08/11/2015 at 13:45, mrmojorisin75 said: Quote Quote Quote You say that like it's an obvious decision when it really isn't. Changing the team as you suggest would pretty much negate our top scorer's attacking contribution, to accommodate a player who has looked better in late cameos when he's come off the bench. perhaps if we have a player like thauvin on the wing playing with confidence it'd open up more opportunities for wijnaldum through the middle? there are no absolutes but i'd strongly argue that giving thauvin 10 minutes here or there is going to achieve the sum total of fuck all for his development Whether we like it or not it seems like McClaren is set on having two CM's who by and large hold their position in the middle of the park. I'm very hesitant to move Wijnaldum out of the spot he's done so well in and into a deeper role, as much as I want to see Tiote and Anita's "partnership" broken up. I'm not convinced that's his chosen style personally, rather an acknowledgment that his CM options are Anita, Tiote and Colback and they're not capable of anything else. Either way it seems pretty clear he doesn't see Wijnaldum as a CM, he started Gouffran in CM rather than move Wij there. Not defending his decision by the way, think he's settled on a very ugly formation and setup these last few games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/08/c8b68d08abb95d41ddbe6d76634bf222.jpg Funny that this is still appropriate.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Good chance Thauvin just isn't rated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 On 08/11/2015 at 14:24, Shak said: Quote Quote Quote Quote You say that like it's an obvious decision when it really isn't. Changing the team as you suggest would pretty much negate our top scorer's attacking contribution, to accommodate a player who has looked better in late cameos when he's come off the bench. perhaps if we have a player like thauvin on the wing playing with confidence it'd open up more opportunities for wijnaldum through the middle? there are no absolutes but i'd strongly argue that giving thauvin 10 minutes here or there is going to achieve the sum total of fuck all for his development Whether we like it or not it seems like McClaren is set on having two CM's who by and large hold their position in the middle of the park. I'm very hesitant to move Wijnaldum out of the spot he's done so well in and into a deeper role, as much as I want to see Tiote and Anita's "partnership" broken up. I'm not convinced that's his chosen style personally, rather an acknowledgment that his CM options are Anita, Tiote and Colback and they're not capable of anything else. Either way it seems pretty clear he doesn't see Wijnaldum as a CM, he started Gouffran in CM rather than move Wij there. Not defending his decision by the way, think he's settled on a very ugly formation and setup these last few games. Not sure, my guess is the Norwich game has made him think he's lucked onto something with Wijnaldum playing wide and ghosting in late but it's not really worked to much effect since that game. Before that he'd tried Wijnaldum central when he was just getting used to things and he struggled there. Anyway we all know he needs to change it, Thauvin needs to come into the fold ASAP as does Aarons if he's ever fit again and if that means moving both Wijnaldum and Sissoko central to do it then he needs to get on with it. We won't get to safety by not fucking scoring Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Him and Tiote as a midfield 2 is just awful. Even worse than Colback and one of those two, if that's possible. Tiote is brain dead and just makes rash challenges all the while. Anita goes AWOL and isn't anywhere near physical enough to play in the current system. They were played off the park by Dan Gosling and some bloke I've never heard of with gay hair. I read the other day we're targeting a winger and a centre back? I hope that means we're looking to play Wijnaldum as a centre mid again. Because we desperately need someone in there who can actually pass a football forwards and maybe effect the game in the opposition's half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Charlie Nicholas summed him up well at the weekend. "What is Anita, I have no idea what he does." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deputy Dawg UK Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 On 30/11/2015 at 05:57, NUFC54 said: Charlie Nicholas summed him up well at the weekend. "What is Anita, I have no idea what he does." continually loses the football ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 On 30/11/2015 at 05:57, NUFC54 said: Charlie Nicholas summed him up well at the weekend. "What is Anita, I have no idea what he does." Yet according to some reports I read he was our best player on Saturday. I think that tells you all you need to know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samag Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 On 30/11/2015 at 05:57, NUFC54 said: Charlie Nicholas summed him up well at the weekend. "What is Anita, I have no idea what he does." Well Charlie he is a down grade to Dan Gosling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben-nufc Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 I thought he was the least woeful of our players on Saturday. Not that that condones his performance like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 On 30/11/2015 at 08:07, TRon said: Quote Charlie Nicholas summed him up well at the weekend. "What is Anita, I have no idea what he does." Yet according to some reports I read he was our best player on Saturday. I think that tells you all you need to know. The lad never stopped running which is the least you'd expect. He was noticeably shouting at all the others as well. Not that they were listening to him mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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