jdckelly Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 In a way I find the demise (bad word to use since its been a more gradual fall to lesser status than a sudden "oh crap we're not that good anymore" moment) of the Dutch League to this extent that we're apparently better option than Ajax, just doesn't feel right Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 In a way I find the demise (bad word to use since its been a more gradual fall to lesser status than a sudden "oh crap we're not that good anymore" moment) of the Dutch League to this extent that we're apparently better option than Ajax, just doesn't feel right It's a sad state of affairs, and in a way the richness of the Premiership and other bigger leagues with more marketing potential (TV revenues) is a direct cause of the demise of the Dutch league and other, similar smaller leagues. The youth academies of the big Dutch clubs are literally raided by the likes of Man City and Chelsea every year, who have their youth and reserve teams brimming with talent that for the most part will never get a chance in the Premiership because these clubs will just rather spend another 20 million than bring on a youth prospect. In the past these players would have developed in the Dutch league and moved when they were in their early to mid twenties, now they get picked up when they're 15 or 16. It would be better for all parties concerned if the big teams in the Premiership involved in a feeder club relationship with these clubs/academies and worked together to bring the talent on to the point where they were proven in the Dutch league (or at a similar level in other countries) before moving on to the next level. Edit: as an example, I recently read the baffling fact that a team like Swansea earns more TV money than the whole of the Dutch league combined. When you consider that TV revenues is probably more than 70% of the income of most clubs, it illustrates the magnitude of the problem for the lesser leagues and it becomes self perpetuating because due to the lower level in comparison to the bigger leagues there is even more incentive for young players to move to bigger leagues (too) early. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 Wonder if that might be part of the reason people are crowing about a poor generation of players on the whole? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 In a way I find the demise (bad word to use since its been a more gradual fall to lesser status than a sudden "oh crap we're not that good anymore" moment) of the Dutch League to this extent that we're apparently better option than Ajax, just doesn't feel right not just the dutch league, wasn't so long ago that if anderlecht were drawn against an english club bar our champions they would probably have been favourites. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 In a way I find the demise (bad word to use since its been a more gradual fall to lesser status than a sudden "oh crap we're not that good anymore" moment) of the Dutch League to this extent that we're apparently better option than Ajax, just doesn't feel right not just the dutch league, wasn't so long ago that if anderlecht were drawn against an english club bar our champions they would probably have been favourites. Eastern Europe too. Only the dodgy rubles and grivna floating around is holding up football over that way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagten Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/7862339/Black-Cats-eye-Magpies-target Sky Sports understands Sunderland are ready to fight Premier League rivals Newcastle for Ajax ace Vurnon Anita. Newcastle have had a bid rejected by Ajax for Anita with the Dutch giants thought to be holding out for a fee in the region of £10-£12million for the Holland international. The Magpies are thought to be preparing a new offer for Anita, but now Sunderland have expressed an interest in the defensive midfielder. Black Cats boss Martin O'Neill is keen to bolster his midfield options this summer and has earmarked Anita as one of his top transfer targets. O'Neill has money to spend this summer and he is hoping to steal a march on North East rivals Newcastle by winning the race for Anita. A number of other Premier League clubs are thought to be tracking Anita with Aston Villa chief Paul Lambert a long-term admirer of the 23-year-old since his time in charge at Norwich. Ajax are reluctant to lose Anita, but know they would not be able to resist a sizeable offer for the all-action midfielder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11678/7862339/Black-Cats-eye-Magpies-target 10-12 million though? Would be worth paying just to see the reactions on RTG if we managed to beat them to his signature Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Too foreign. Won't happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EthiGeordie Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 From all the target we bid with he is the one I like most. I feel like he will be big tower for us. I will be gutted if he end up with the black cats. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Are sunderland able to offer bigger wages? Would be annoying if they got him but if he turns down europe for extra wage etc good riddance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Here's hoping he rejects their interest to see the fallout on RTG. Hope we consequently steer well clear if that's how much they want for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
angrypirate71 Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 From all the target we bid with he is the one I like most. I feel like he will be big tower for us. I will be gutted if he end up with the black cats. Don't man, just don't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Are sunderland able to offer bigger wages? Would be annoying if they got him but if he turns down europe for extra wage etc good riddance. Better training facilities, better fans and Marty's Parties. It's a no brainer for him unfortunately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Why would Marty want one of them foreign types? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Sky Sports understands Sunderland are ready to fight Premier League rivals Newcastle for Ajax ace Vurnon Anita. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 They can waste their money if they want, 12m F off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Sky Sports understands Sunderland are ready to fight Premier League rivals Newcastle for Ajax ace Vurnon Anita. :yao: :yao: :yao: :yao: :yao: :yao: :yao: :yao: :yao: :yao: :yao: :yao: :yao: :yao: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Sky Sports understands Sunderland are ready to fight Premier League rivals Newcastle for Ajax ace Vurnon Anita. :yao: :yao: :yao: :yao: :yao: :yao: :yao: :yao: :yao: :yao: :yao: :yao: :yao: :yao: http://i45.tinypic.com/5nkhkx.png Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest sicko2ndbest Posted July 7, 2012 Share Posted July 7, 2012 New quotes this morning http://www.elfvoetbal.nl/mobielnieuws/197939_de-boer-anita-blijft-bij-ajax At a press conference was the Ajax coach to questions about the alleged interest from Newcastle United in the Ajax. "We will resist very long," said De Boer. "Vernun fantastic run last year and the season before. It fits perfectly in our image. Look, you can occasionally miss one or two pillars. If it is too much, then you cut Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted July 7, 2012 Share Posted July 7, 2012 New quotes this morning http://www.elfvoetbal.nl/mobielnieuws/197939_de-boer-anita-blijft-bij-ajax At a press conference was the Ajax coach to questions about the alleged interest from Newcastle United in the Ajax. "We will resist very long," said De Boer. "Vernun fantastic run last year and the season before. It fits perfectly in our image. Look, you can occasionally miss one or two pillars. If it is too much, then you cut Sounds like lip service to fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 NUFC target Vurnon Anita can leave Ajax for £8m ChronicleLive - 4 minutes ago NEWCASTLE United target Vurnon Anita has been told he can leave Ajax this summer – if the Magpies hit the target with a price tag of £8m. http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/newcastle-united/nufc-news/2012/07/10/nufc-target-vurnon-anita-can-leave-ajax-for-8m-72703-31359928/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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