Mick Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 Give him the 9 shirt, let shola coach him. It looks like he already has. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 Our ambitions should be higher than taking a shit player on loan just in case he turns out good one day. We need 2 good strikers at least, I fear signing 1 decent one and keeping De Jong will be all. That's the point though isn't it? Our (the clubs) ambition isn't higher. We will be lucky to replace Remy let alone sign another forward who will definitely do well for us. We are currently in a position where the only striker who will definitely be here and played in the correct position next season is Cisse. I'm not a fan of settling but we really aren't in a position to be choosy considering who is financing the club and the amount of players we need. I would not be remotely surprised if we signed some old, old of contract, was half decent at his peak a few years ago forward and that's our lot. I'd like at least one striker who could possibly improve even if he has been a dud so far, Pardew isn't going to give the likes of Armstrong or Campbell a chance is he? Even Ashley knows that would guarantee relegation. I think we'll spend "big" on a striker. £8-10m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 I really hope so, I reckon he'll see how it pans out in the first half of the season though then decide if we need saving. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 I can't think of a worse time for a forward to come to this club on loan and try to force a transfer. I can think of several. Like when we weren't absolutely crying out for a striker to stake a claim, for a start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 I can think of several. Like when we weren't absolutely crying out for a striker to stake a claim, for a start. My comment had more to do with the shite we serve up week after week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 That's fine, but on the other hand all he had to do was vaguely look like scoring - even Shola's got 2 in his 2 starts - to make a case for himself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 One of Shola's was from an absolute peach of a cross and in a side where he was allowed to be the actual front man. De Jong's often been asked to be some sort of deep-lying target man, it's patently not suited to him. Still see something in him, not sure why, he's just obviously not going to at all succeed in this team with his reliance on service and need for confidence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 That's fine, but on the other hand all he had to do was vaguely look like scoring - even Shola's got 2 in his 2 starts - to make a case for himself. That's true, I'm not making a case for him, we'd be mad to sign him going off what we've seen here, I still think he's been given the shit end of the stick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 Agree like. It's not like he's been unlucky, been denied by class keeping, dodgy decisions or the woodwork. He's offered absolutely bot all goal threat whatsoever. Genuinely struggle to think of a player with weaker shot power who's worn our shirt in my lifetime. I did think Lovenkrands but then I remember that goal away at Blackpool; LDJ would have hit his usual bobbled passback in the vague direction of the goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 Just look at his time in Germany and now here, stinking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 He can't shoot. Major issue for a striker that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Don't think he's what we need, but I could hardly think of a tougher and more negative environment to come into than this. World's worst manager in the history of man kind and a club that's given up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 That thread title Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 http://www.thejournal.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/newcastle-united-mulling-over-deal-7095850 Newcastle United mulling over a deal for Luuk de Jong May 09, 2014 11:16 By Mark Douglas The Dutch forward is yet to open his account for Newcastle United during his loan move, but that doesn't mean a deal is out of the question. Newcastle United are set for talks with Luuk de Jong’s agent next week as they mull over a deal for the Holland striker. De Jong is still waiting to open his account for the Magpies since making a loan move in January but the club have not closed the door on brokering a permanent deal for the 23-year-old, who has spoken of his desire to join United in the summer. Newcastle are looking to bring in three new forwards in the close season as part of a squad overhaul and Papiss Cisse’s serious knee injury has made the summer search even more urgent. Lyon forward Alexandre Lacazette is a priority target but there remains interest in de Jong (pictured right) – at the right price. Although he has struggled to score goals during a tough run, Newcastle have seen signs of improvement despite his slow start to life on Tyneside. United have agreed a fee with Borussia Monchengladbach for his permanent transfer but want to talk to de Jong’s representative before deciding on their next move. They are understood to have other options and want to move quickly to seal deals after the end of a damaging season. Unless they make substantial progress in their recruitment drive, Newcastle’s striking options will be decidedly threadbare when the club return for pre-season in July. Shola Ameobi is yet to start contract talks with the club and Loic Remy has indicated that he will wait until after the World Cup before confirming his intentions next season. His appearance at Arsenal on Sunday – although Arsene Wenger insisted it was not at his invitation – did not bode particularly well for Newcastle’s hopes of retaining arguably their most consistent performer of the campaign. Papiss Cisse’s knee injury may also rule him out of the start of pre-season which would leave Newcastle with just Yoan Gouffran and rookie Adam Armstrong to pick from – if they don’t manage to negotiate deals for strikers in the close season. De Jong and Lacazette are two names being considered by Newcastle, who were also linked with Hertha Berlin forward Pierre-Michel Lasogga yesterday. Newcastle also have an interest in Tenerife forward Ayoze Perez but interest is understood to have cooled as the young Spanish forward has made substantial wage demands. De Jong’s desire to stay on Tyneside may depend on fitting into Newcastle’s wage structure, with United intent on staying within budget as part of their substantial squad overhaul. The player appears keen to clinch a permanent deal. Last month he said: “I hope to be important for the team, and after this season, I hope to stay. I like it (English football). It’s more physical than Germany and Holland.” There were more positive noises from United yesterday when Bob Moncur (pictured right) – a club ambassador – said that he believed there would be money to spend at Newcastle this summer. “Quite clearly there has got to be a lot of work done before the start of next season,” he said. “I understand that there is money to spend this summer in strengthening the squad. That said that is not as easy as it sounds in the modern day transfer market. Clearly that has to be done. That’s a fact, new players are needed for next season. But at least there is a solution.” As United look to next season, there remains a measure of uncertainty about Alan Pardew’s future. The Newcastle boss will today address the media for the first time since the hostile reception that he was afforded at St James’ Park last weekend. He admits that it has been a blow to see the tide of public opinion turn against him. He said: “Obviously, I’m a little bit sad about the situation but my resolve has to be strong to make sure the players are ready for Liverpool. “We need to go to Anfield and put in a top performance.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Newcastle also have an interest in Tenerife forward Ayoze Perez but interest is understood to have cooled as the young Spanish forward has made substantial wage demands. Ooooh...substantial wage demands. Can't be having that, better sign De Jong up quick so he can fail to score goals at a cheaper rate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 How substantial could a 20 year old, Spanish second division wage demands really be? Apart from the top 3-4 clubs I can't imagine Spanish club's wages come near those in England. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 How substantial could a 20 year old, Spanish second division wage demands really be? Apart from the top 3-4 clubs I can't imagine Spanish club's wages come near those in England. Werent we looking to put him in the reserves first? If he is asking for first team money you know we will run away at paying it for a non purple. Can only assume we were looking at Sammy esque wages. Also the idea he would get more than de jong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Luuk de Pong If we're really debating on a deal, I..I... http://yourekilling.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/sighgif.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Can see it now, the 3 forwards will be De Pong, spanish second division guy and someone like Grant Holt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 We better not be thinking too hard about signing De Jong, he's worse than bloody Shola. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Newcastle also have an interest in Tenerife forward Ayoze Perez but interest is understood to have cooled as the young Spanish forward has made substantial wage demands. Ooooh...substantial wage demands. Can't be having that, better sign De Jong up quick so he can fail to score goals at a cheaper rate. Can't be paying a transfer fee and non-shit wages. One or the other. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 I would laugh if we signed him... Unbelievable flop! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willow Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 He has definitely flopped big time, but I'd still take him if he was £4m or less, absolutely no more though! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillClinton Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 I don't want to completely judge him on what we've seen over this stretch. He did go from playing almost no football at all in Germany to being dropped into the middle of the worst 5 month display I've ever seen from a professional sporting club. Can he be completely blamed for not settling here given everything that has gone on? That said, you have to take a chance when it's given and he didn't show much at all. I'd take him here, but certainly not at the prices that had been mentioned originally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 I can't believe anyone would want us to sign him. If the choice was to give Shola a one year contract or sign de Jong for £2M I'd prefer the Shola option. Hopefully neither choice will happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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