Guest neesy111 Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 He had the personnel to play Obertan, Cisse and Marveaux up top and a 3 man midfield. He's an absolute disgrace of a manager with the setup he put out tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dontooner Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 God please sack him and get a decent manager to keep us up Amen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Blamed Santon on the radio. f*** off Alan, you small time fraudster. Seriously? What did he say? 'They had more experience than us and it showed, Santon goes through on goal and if he squares it there we score and get a point.' If Krul hadn't made 4 wonder saves they'd have score 6. I don't suppose he mentioned that. People forget after we scored Krul had more touches than anyone of our players for 15 mins. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 I know nothing about tactics but it is very hard to explain Shola central and Cisse wide. Best explanation I can come up with is that they had done match preparation in anticipation of playing Ba central, but had to switch at the last minute so he just slotted Shola in to minimize displacement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Blamed Santon on the radio. f*** off Alan, you small time fraudster. Seriously? What did he say? 'They had more experience than us and it showed, Santon goes through on goal and if he squares it there we score and get a point.' Come on man, that's hardly blaming Santon for the overall result, just showing how quickly it could change. And to be fair he's right. Santon was awful tonight (IMO) and we would have got a point if he'd squared it. santon wasn't awful tonight, far from it but we probably would have scored if he'd squared it.....these things happen with inexperienced defenders in the box and hopefully he#ll learn from it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tachikoma Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 I know nothing about tactics but it is very hard to explain Shola central and Cisse wide. Best explanation I can come up with is that they had done match preparation in anticipation of playing Ba central, but had to switch at the last minute so he just slotted Shola in to minimize displacement. Yeup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
worthy Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Blamed Santon on the radio. f*** off Alan, you small time fraudster. Seriously? What did he say? 'They had more experience than us and it showed, Santon goes through on goal and if he squares it there we score and get a point.' Come on man, that's hardly blaming Santon for the overall result, just showing how quickly it could change. And to be fair he's right. Santon was awful tonight (IMO) and we would have got a point if he'd squared it. How do you know this by the way, can you see in to an alternative future where Cisse got it, and scored. And they didn't attack again or something like that? If he really truly means that the Santon didn't pass made the whole team play s**** and hoof the ball he can really go f*** himself, its a stupid excuse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 3 wins in our last 15 games 10 of which were defeats. Unacceptable for most team's. 5th in the league last year FFS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocksammy Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 For those of you slagging pardew get a grip. They prepared for having Ba in the team. Its alot easier to just slot ameobi in then moving both him and cisse. Its not his fault Ba has fucked off at the 11th hour. He may of just benched the cunt but honestly fuck him long term we are better. The game was very unlucky we probably deserved a draw at worst. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Pardew's fault anyway for playing Santon on the wrong side of the pitch. He's right footed, therefore he's a rightback. End of. He's going to be at left back for a long time, might as well get used to it. End of. Well what's the point in complaining about anything then? Might as well shut the whole bloody forum. If something's wrong, people are entitled to point it out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Blamed Santon on the radio. f*** off Alan, you small time fraudster. Seriously? What did he say? 'They had more experience than us and it showed, Santon goes through on goal and if he squares it there we score and get a point.' Come on man, that's hardly blaming Santon for the overall result, just showing how quickly it could change. And to be fair he's right. Santon was awful tonight (IMO) and we would have got a point if he'd squared it. santon wasn't awful tonight, far from it but we probably would have scored if he'd squared it.....these things happen with inexperienced defenders in the box and hopefully he#ll learn from it. Santon was bad and has been for a good few games now, it's just the fact that Everton had nothing through their right side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 I know nothing about tactics but it is very hard to explain Shola central and Cisse wide. Best explanation I can come up with is that they had done match preparation in anticipation of playing Ba central, but had to switch at the last minute so he just slotted Shola in to minimize displacement. Sounds like the excuse he will use, but in reality he should have had Ba anywhere but the bench tonight, any manager worth a damn wouldn't have based their entire plan around a player ready to leave any day. Apart from that his head isn't going to be in it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 I was listening at the time in the car, he was just using it as an example of naivety from a young player, not having a go at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 For those of you slagging pardew get a grip. They prepared for having Ba in the team. Its alot easier to just slot ameobi in then moving both him and cisse. Its not his fault Ba has fucked off at the 11th hour. He may of just benched the cunt but honestly fuck him long term we are better. The game was very unlucky we probably deserved a draw at worst. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 I know nothing about tactics but it is very hard to explain Shola central and Cisse wide. Best explanation I can come up with is that they had done match preparation in anticipation of playing Ba central, but had to switch at the last minute so he just slotted Shola in to minimize displacement. Aye Pardew actually admitted to this before the game. He's far too rigid, which makes it even more surprising when half way through the game he starts doing random shite like subbing on Steve Harper for Ben Arfa and playing him on the shoulder of the last man, or some mental shit like that. I'm patenting that change by the way, just so he never ever gets tempted to do it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 I know nothing about tactics but it is very hard to explain Shola central and Cisse wide. Best explanation I can come up with is that they had done match preparation in anticipation of playing Ba central, but had to switch at the last minute so he just slotted Shola in to minimize displacement. Sounds like the excuse he will use, but in reality he should have had Ba anywhere but the bench tonight, any manager worth a damn wouldn't have based their entire plan around a player ready to leave any day. Apart from that his head isn't going to be in it. it was said before tha game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 For those of you slagging pardew get a grip. They prepared for having Ba in the team. Its alot easier to just slot ameobi in then moving both him and cisse. Its not his fault Ba has fucked off at the 11th hour. He may of just benched the cunt but honestly fuck him long term we are better. The game was very unlucky we probably deserved a draw at worst. Astonishing I can't believe these people exist Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 He had the personnel to play Obertan, Cisse and Marveaux up top and a 3 man midfield. He's an absolute disgrace of a manager with the setup he put out tonight. Would agree he got the starting line up wrong (by one player). And then the subs. I wouldn't say a manager who finished 5th with us and won Manager of the Year is a disgrace though. Just having a very bad time of it at the moment. No I'd call him a fraud. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistle17 Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 I just cant believe this has happened. How the fuck have we ended up in this position (Pardew, aye), it's devastating to think. IF (massive) we secure safety before the end of the season we should sack this awful man and give ourselves plenty of time to look for someone new. It really is so tempting to sack him now, I mean just how much worse can we get? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 For those of you slagging pardew get a grip. They prepared for having Ba in the team. Its alot easier to just slot ameobi in then moving both him and cisse. Its not his fault Ba has f***ed off at the 11th hour. He may of just benched the c*** but honestly f*** him long term we are better. The game was very unlucky we probably deserved a draw at worst. A player who's spent his ENTIRE career in the middle can't adapt quickly enough to being played in the middle? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 I was listening at the time in the car, he was just using it as an example of naivety from a young player, not having a go at all. they know but how can they have a go at that ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 For those of you slagging pardew get a grip. They prepared for having Ba in the team. Its alot easier to just slot ameobi in then moving both him and cisse. Its not his fault Ba has fucked off at the 11th hour. He may of just benched the cunt but honestly fuck him long term we are better. The game was very unlucky we probably deserved a draw at worst. Astonishing I can't believe these people exist I thought it was somebody taking the piss Edit: You don't write german poems by any chance do you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 I know nothing about tactics but it is very hard to explain Shola central and Cisse wide. Best explanation I can come up with is that they had done match preparation in anticipation of playing Ba central, but had to switch at the last minute so he just slotted Shola in to minimize displacement. Sounds like the excuse he will use, but in reality he should have had Ba anywhere but the bench tonight, any manager worth a damn wouldn't have based their entire plan around a player ready to leave any day. Apart from that his head isn't going to be in it. it was said before tha game. Jesus man, he's totally fucking thick as whale spunk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
worthy Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 For those of you slagging pardew get a grip. They prepared for having Ba in the team. Its alot easier to just slot ameobi in then moving both him and cisse. Its not his fault Ba has f***ed off at the 11th hour. He may of just benched the c*** but honestly f*** him long term we are better. The game was very unlucky we probably deserved a draw at worst. A player who's spent his ENTIRE career in the middle can't adapt quickly enough to being played in the middle? Well you know how much Ba and Shola are like. Did you not see Shola creating all these fantastic chances by himself? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 I know nothing about tactics but it is very hard to explain Shola central and Cisse wide. Best explanation I can come up with is that they had done match preparation in anticipation of playing Ba central, but had to switch at the last minute so he just slotted Shola in to minimize displacement. that seems to come back around to Pardew's main strategy being tailored and thorough preparation for matches, with not much thought given to wider development as a team. it means that whenever you get a late injury, or Ba buggering off, the entire thing falls to pieces. he's been here two years and we still don't have a definable gameplan a la Everton and are still falling back on failed plans like hoofing it to Shola. Seems that Pardew is a manager of matches rather than seasons, difference with last season was having a bit of luck with injuries, new players hitting the ground running and no cup distractions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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