AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21102594 Blames the fans for negativity around the stadium. His audacity knows no bounds. I thought at the time that the fans' reaction would be harmful to the team, I think that's fair comment. It's the double-edged sword of SJP. Obviously it's not an excuse, but it's a factor. Troll. On ignore now. Bye. Who is being a troll? Aye, it's just a different perspective depending which side of the fence you sit. Bit harsh to call him a troll As if it's just this one occasion Jack, you are getting on my tits. Everyone else, I know he won't see this because he's ignoring me. Chuckle. I can't remember how to even do it tbh. I'm just not interested in hearing your constant excuses any more. Shit manager makes shit decisions and the crowd turn negative. Funny that. I said it was his fault the crowd turned negative, I was screaming at the screen myself. FFS. It must just be any argument with any subtlety whatsoever is ignored. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfrederi Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21102594 Blames the fans for negativity around the stadium. His audacity knows no bounds. I thought at the time that the fans' reaction would be harmful to the team, I think that's fair comment. It's the double-edged sword of SJP. Obviously it's not an excuse, but it's a factor. It was a negative reaction to a negative action by the manager, did he expect to hear applause? No, of course not, I was raging as well. I'm just saying that SJP can be a hard place to play when things aren't going for you. No doubt but i think a lot of the negativity was caused by the manager and directed towards him because of his negativity rather than the players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisfarrar Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 I don't think we should get rid. This season has been unprecedented in terms of injuries. The people who should be looking at themselves are people like Ashley, Llambias and Charnley for not getting players "over the line" in the summer and now. Which seemingly would make no difference as Pardew with f*** it up with ridiculous tactics and mind boggling substitutions. Today tactics were shite, no getting away from that. But with adequate players brought into the squad we could have adapted within the game and seen it out. Quality of subs available let us down today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 I've always thought the abuse Pardew has got on here has been OTT, but today has pushed me over the edge, his decisions today cost us all 3 points, he panicked and tried to protect a 1-0 lead against Reading despite no real pressure untill he invited it on himself. To come out and blame the fans is beyond belief though, I've spend £40 on train travel to be there today, another £40 on a ticket to Villa away, trudged through ankle deep snow and still sang 'Alan Pardew's Black and white army', he has no right to blame fans who are annoyed when our only creative outlets are taken off. He never really got abuse though, most of the critics backed up their reasoning with very valid points. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Pardew says he told the side to keep playing in the second half exactly as they'd played in the first. I assume this included passing football and attacking Reading, so either: a. He's lying, or; b. The players just didn't listen and decided to go defensive themselves. Which is worse? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21102594 Blames the fans for negativity around the stadium. His audacity knows no bounds. I thought at the time that the fans' reaction would be harmful to the team, I think that's fair comment. It's the double-edged sword of SJP. Obviously it's not an excuse, but it's a factor. It was a negative reaction to a negative action by the manager, did he expect to hear applause? No, of course not, I was raging as well. I'm just saying that SJP can be a hard place to play when things aren't going for you. No doubt but i think a lot of the negativity was caused by the manager and directed towards him because of his negativity rather than the players. Totally agree, all I was trying to say was that the negative atmosphere can be hard to play in. The fans aren't to blame for the defeat obviously, but I doubt he was saying that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 I don't think we should get rid. This season has been unprecedented in terms of injuries. The people who should be looking at themselves are people like Ashley, Llambias and Charnley for not getting players "over the line" in the summer and now. Which seemingly would make no difference as Pardew with f*** it up with ridiculous tactics and mind boggling substitutions. Today tactics were shite, no getting away from that. But with adequate players brought into the squad we could have adapted within the game and seen it out. Quality of subs available let us down today. Well here's an idea. If your subs aren't that good then leave the quality players on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Pardew says he told the side to keep playing in the second half exactly as they'd played in the first. I assume this included passing football and attacking Reading, so either: a. He's lying, or; b. The players just didn't listen and decided to go defensive themselves. Which is worse? B is probably a bit worse. Although it's natural sometimes for players to protect a lead, especially when they aren't confident. He didn't help matters by replacing the midfielders who were controlling the game with inferior subs though. And we all know that Shola and Jonas are knackered by about 65 minutes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikejaxer Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Facebook page is full of wankers like. There's a guy saying I'm not a true fan because I want pardew for the sack Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisfarrar Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 I don't think we should get rid. This season has been unprecedented in terms of injuries. The people who should be looking at themselves are people like Ashley, Llambias and Charnley for not getting players "over the line" in the summer and now. Which seemingly would make no difference as Pardew with f*** it up with ridiculous tactics and mind boggling substitutions. Today tactics were s****, no getting away from that. But with adequate players brought into the squad we could have adapted within the game and seen it out. Quality of subs available let us down today. Well here's an idea. If your subs aren't that good then leave the quality players on. and risk them further injuries for the next game? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Facebook page is full of wankers like. There's a guy saying I'm not a true fan because I want pardew in the sack FYP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Today tactics were s****, no getting away from that. But with adequate players brought into the squad we could have adapted within the game and seen it out. Quality of subs available let us down today. Hold on a minute, he had attacking options if he wanted to keep us going forward but he replaced an attacking player with a defensive one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21102594 Blames the fans for negativity around the stadium. His audacity knows no bounds. I note he says he told them at half time to keep doing exactly the same things second half. If that's true then the players just aren't listening to him. I just cannot buy that because this is always what happens with Pardew, just a look at half time in the match thread makes that absolutely obvious, so do his subs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjmc Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Pardew says he told the side to keep playing in the second half exactly as they'd played in the first. I assume this included passing football and attacking Reading, so either: a. He's lying, or; b. The players just didn't listen and decided to go defensive themselves. Which is worse? It is difficult to keep playing a certain way when you change the players that are making things "tick" I personally wouldn't trust what he has to say anyway the guy likes the sound of his own voice and does not like to ever admit he gets things wrong. At the end of the match I really had hoped he would come out and admit he made a mistake instead he had already got a list of excuses to make. Maybe that's what he was doing at the pitch side getting his "silky patter" down before smirking at the camera's like everything is all fine and dandy. From manager of the year who deserved a nice extended contract to a manager I wouldnt give an assistants post in the 3rd division to is so big of a fall from grace you couldnt make it up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Pardew says he told the side to keep playing in the second half exactly as they'd played in the first. I assume this included passing football and attacking Reading, so either: a. He's lying, or; b. The players just didn't listen and decided to go defensive themselves. Which is worse? Both are just as bad as each other. For one thing, it appears that Pardew just doesn't want to acknowledge any fault on his part and secondly, the players might be losing a bit of faith in him if they didn't listen to the manager's instructions. Either way, it all leads back to Pardew as being the root cause... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 21 points is our worst return at this stage in our PL history. Just to put that into context, that's a PL history that has included Peter Ramage, Celestine Babayaro and Carl Cort. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Some people are still making excuses for the man, by blaming the lack of funds over the summer. Although that is partly to blame, even with the lack of squad he had including injuries, there is absolutely no excuse for the position we are in now. The team is better than that, that team Is still better than languishing at the bottom with 21 points after 23 games. The ones that think otherwise are naive to say the least. Some can blame long ball, short ball, turgid ball, foul formations, whatever but ultimately the manager with those players regardless of whatever style they play should be getting more than 21 points out of 23 games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 21 points is our worst return at this stage in our PL history. Just to put that into context, that's a PL history that has included Peter Ramage, Celestine Babayaro and Carl Cort. Knee-jerk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Today tactics were s****, no getting away from that. But with adequate players brought into the squad we could have adapted within the game and seen it out. Quality of subs available let us down today. Hold on a minute, he had attacking options if he wanted to keep us going forward but he replaced an attacking player with a defensive one. Dman right Mick. As far as I'm concerned it's absolutely irrelevant who we bring in this month. We won't improve. The guy doesn't have a clue and as shown today he's incapable of changing his philosophy. People thinking otherwise ought to give their heads a shake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Shit comes out his mouth... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhaircut Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 The guy is so full of shit. Says that Cabs was struggling at half time. Why the fuck didn't he take him off instead of Marveaux then? We had two creative players on the pitch and he thinks it's a good idea to take one off while the other one is struggling with injury. Liar or muppet. Either way he has to go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 conspiracy theory time, perhaps his selection (shola starting) and subs were some daft attempt to get things moving transfer wise. Probably not I know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 I c'est for this club Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Pardew says he told the side to keep playing in the second half exactly as they'd played in the first. I assume this included passing football and attacking Reading, so either: a. He's lying, or; b. The players just didn't listen and decided to go defensive themselves. Which is worse? Either way he's lost the locker room and has to go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21102594 Blames the fans for negativity around the stadium. His audacity knows no bounds. I note he says he told them at half time to keep doing exactly the same things second half. If that's true then the players just aren't listening to him. I just cannot buy that because this is always what happens with Pardew, just a look at half time in the match thread makes that absolutely obvious, so do his subs. It's clearly bollocks. 5 min before their first goal I said they're sitting deep again or words to that effect. You could see it a mile off...Same as, same old...He's just crap under pressure and too negative and the players can feel that..Football is so much in the mind it's unreal...Fuck me he's even forgotten the clever things he used to say last year. He's out of ideas and worse he's spreading fear into the team - game after game. Ashley has to act this week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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