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Pilko

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He succeeded last season with a conservative approach, but unfortunately we're now in a situation where he needs to be bold. A couple of new signings might give him the confidence to try it.

 

 

Hopefully. If he isn't relying on Williamson every week then that might give him more confidence. Somehow I doubt it though, he's a conservative manager through and through, and it's costing us every single game.

To be fair, he wasn't conservative against Man U and Arsenal. We went all out against them. That is what we should do against the 'lesser' teams.

 

He undid all of that though by introducing Shola and reverting to hoof mode at 3-3 in both games.

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The hope I am desperately clinging to is that we sign Mbiwa who settles quickly, Saylor stays fit and for the rest of the season we have a competent back 4 that allows the confidence manager that Pardew is to be a lot more adventurous. He showed last season he was capable of it but this year he has thoroughly shit his pants and ironically his safety first approach has made us a lot more vulnerable.

 

My worry is rather like the set peices, he doesn't know how to change it. He's simply lost it, soon find out if we sign a couple and carry on being shit.

 

He makes the wrong decisions all the time but tbf to him he really hasn't had many options from the bench. Poor example to choose really as we shouldn't need to change it up against Reading at home but it's been like it for much of the season, a bench like yesterdays;

 

Taylor, Sa.Ameobi, Ranger, Bigirmana, Perch and Obertan.

 

Doesn't give you many game changing options.

 

Depressing really, thinking when Ben Arfa is back that bench will only have someone like Shola or Jonas to change a game :lol: :okay:

 

Well probably Marv tbf.

 

While i do accept the fact he needed more players and wasn't backed by the board. I can't despite trying hard find any reason for him to look at the squad and go "i know lets play direct football"

 

I'm just completely baffled, i hate the bloke, he is clueless and want him gone. That said if he's gets given some players and does well, i'll happily apologise.

 

I can't see that happening as i just think he's a rank bad manager.

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I think we will pick up, strangely. I think if M'Biwa comes in, that will give the squad a huge lift and we'll see a bit more fight in the team too, some more leadership. If he keeps that midfield from yesterday, and we sign a wide forward, i think we'll win at Villa and kick on.

 

 

I honestly don't think the players are the problem.

 

How many teams outside the top 8/9 have players as good as Cabaye, HBA, Marveaux, Krul, Cisse, Santon, Anita, Coloccini, Tiote and previously Ba.

 

These are all good Premiership quality players. Some of them can play for the top 4 comfortably. IMO this is comfortably a mid-table team.

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Perhaps people have had some breathing space since last night, but I really don't know how anyone can even remotely justify prolonging his time here. How many chances does he get? How many 'wait and see' opportunities are we going to give him? I think we've passed that time now. 16 games left and no sign of any noticeable improvement in regards to results.

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I think we will pick up, strangely. I think if M'Biwa comes in, that will give the squad a huge lift and we'll see a bit more fight in the team too, some more leadership. If he keeps that midfield from yesterday, and we sign a wide forward, i think we'll win at Villa and kick on.

 

 

I honestly don't think the players are the problem.

 

How many teams outside the top 8/9 have players as good as Cabaye, HBA, Marveaux, Krul, Cisse, Santon, Anita, Coloccini, Tiote and previously Ba.

 

These are all good Premiership quality players. Some of them can play for the top 4 comfortably. IMO this is comfortably a mid-table team.

 

I completely agree, I just don't think we're going to get the lift we need from management to survive, it's going to have to come from new players instead. We have the quality, but mentally, it's clear we're struggling.

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Out of interest, why would anyone mention what month it is or how long's left in the transfer window when discussing nufc managerial appointments/sackings?

 

The nufc manager doesn't choose who we sell or sign, and hasn't for some time.

 

It would probably help to convince someone to come though.

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discussing this with ThreatLevel on twitter at the minute.  The way I see it:

 

Apparent recruitment drive in France with Carr ---> Manager has little say in incomings ---> pretty much a head coach/DoF setup ---> Find French/French-speaking manager who is available (one that's taken relegation fodder to a respectable mid-table position probably) ---> Inform him that this is the way things work.  He will have a little say but is primarily a head coach to work with what he's given.  We will also be likely to sell and replace when high-end bids come in ---> New tactical imputes for the team while also being able to engage/man-manage the majority of the squad.

 

Essentially a French Steve Clarke.  Only way I could see us getting "better" would be to sack off Graham Carr and give the manager full control, which I can't see us doing at all.

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Out of interest, why would anyone mention what month it is or how long's left in the transfer window when discussing nufc managerial appointments/sackings?

 

The nufc manager doesn't choose who we sell or sign, and hasn't for some time.

 

It would probably help to convince someone to come though.

 

I'm not sure why, they wouldn't get any signings if they asked, they'd get what they were given and be told that in advance.

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discussing this with ThreatLevel on twitter at the minute.  The way I see it:

 

Apparent recruitment drive in France with Carr ---> Manager has little say in incomings ---> pretty much a head coach/DoF setup ---> Find French/French-speaking manager who is available (one that's taken relegation fodder to a respectable mid-table position probably) ---> Inform him that this is the way things work.  He will have a little say but is primarily a head coach to work with what he's given.  We will also be likely to sell and replace when high-end bids come in ---> New tactical imputes for the team while also being able to engage/man-manage the majority of the squad.

 

Essentially a French Steve Clarke.  Only way I could see us getting "better" would be to sack off Graham Carr and give the manager full control, which I can't see us doing at all.

 

Would be ideal scenario although is it paramount that the manager is French? especially with the troubles players like Ben Arfa have had in the past.

 

What i'm getting at is french people don't seem to like french people :lol:

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terry mccrady ‏@trymcc

@lee_ryder Why change? On satday Cab was injured, Marv was looking lost (2nd half). Board did not sign defenders and midfield in summer.

 

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Of course he was lost.. He was looking for shola but couldn't find him because pardew had put the fucker on the right wing.

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WarrenBartonCentrePartin

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discussing this with ThreatLevel on twitter at the minute.  The way I see it:

 

Apparent recruitment drive in France with Carr ---> Manager has little say in incomings ---> pretty much a head coach/DoF setup ---> Find French/French-speaking manager who is available (one that's taken relegation fodder to a respectable mid-table position probably) ---> Inform him that this is the way things work.  He will have a little say but is primarily a head coach to work with what he's given.  We will also be likely to sell and replace when high-end bids come in ---> New tactical imputes for the team while also being able to engage/man-manage the majority of the squad.

 

Essentially a French Steve Clarke.  Only way I could see us getting "better" would be to sack off Graham Carr and give the manager full control, which I can't see us doing at all.

 

Would be ideal scenario although is it paramount that the manager is French? especially with the troubles players like Ben Arfa have had in the past.

 

What i'm getting at is french people don't seem to like french people :lol:

 

aye but I'm factoring in what seems to be happening at the minute.  If there's another talented manager out there, who at least speaks some French we could appoint him.  Couldn't see any English manager accepting such a role though, especially clowns like Mark Hughes.  Keegan and Curbishley have also walked in similar circumstances.

 

Ben Arfa could have walked in any circumstance in all honesty.  We've been lucky in a sense that he's not kicked off at Pardew.

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If our form and results are purely down to signings and luck, why would binning Pardew be a problem?

 

The investment since we finished 5th has been abysmal to date, but it's far from the only issue. Our slimy manager was saying it wasn't a problem at all at one point. :lol:

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