Tiresias Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 If we can get a manager in who will remotivate the squad and get us going forward with some conviction we can maybe stay up. Worth the £6m or so it costs to sack pardew Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 It won't cost a third of that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Out of interest, why would anyone mention what month it is or how long's left in the transfer window when discussing nufc managerial appointments/sackings? The nufc manager doesn't choose who we sell or sign, and hasn't for some time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Radio stations - particularly Talksport - simply pick whatever is opposite of popular opinion and encourage people to call up to argue otherwise. It's so basic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 On 20/01/2013 at 18:51, Dr Venkman said: Out of interest, why would anyone mention what month it is or how long's left in the transfer window when discussing nufc managerial appointments/sackings? The nufc manager doesn't choose who we sell or sign, and hasn't for some time. It would probably help to convince someone to come though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 discussing this with ThreatLevel on twitter at the minute. The way I see it: Apparent recruitment drive in France with Carr ---> Manager has little say in incomings ---> pretty much a head coach/DoF setup ---> Find French/French-speaking manager who is available (one that's taken relegation fodder to a respectable mid-table position probably) ---> Inform him that this is the way things work. He will have a little say but is primarily a head coach to work with what he's given. We will also be likely to sell and replace when high-end bids come in ---> New tactical imputes for the team while also being able to engage/man-manage the majority of the squad. Essentially a French Steve Clarke. Only way I could see us getting "better" would be to sack off Graham Carr and give the manager full control, which I can't see us doing at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 We shouldn't give a manager full control over transfers imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 On 20/01/2013 at 18:56, Dave said: Quote Out of interest, why would anyone mention what month it is or how long's left in the transfer window when discussing nufc managerial appointments/sackings? The nufc manager doesn't choose who we sell or sign, and hasn't for some time. It would probably help to convince someone to come though. I'm not sure why, they wouldn't get any signings if they asked, they'd get what they were given and be told that in advance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 terry mccrady @trymcc @lee_ryder Why change? On satday Cab was injured, Marv was looking lost (2nd half). Board did not sign defenders and midfield in summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 On 20/01/2013 at 19:01, WarrenBartonCentrePartin said: discussing this with ThreatLevel on twitter at the minute. The way I see it: Apparent recruitment drive in France with Carr ---> Manager has little say in incomings ---> pretty much a head coach/DoF setup ---> Find French/French-speaking manager who is available (one that's taken relegation fodder to a respectable mid-table position probably) ---> Inform him that this is the way things work. He will have a little say but is primarily a head coach to work with what he's given. We will also be likely to sell and replace when high-end bids come in ---> New tactical imputes for the team while also being able to engage/man-manage the majority of the squad. Essentially a French Steve Clarke. Only way I could see us getting "better" would be to sack off Graham Carr and give the manager full control, which I can't see us doing at all. Would be ideal scenario although is it paramount that the manager is French? especially with the troubles players like Ben Arfa have had in the past. What i'm getting at is french people don't seem to like french people Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 On 20/01/2013 at 19:04, Skeletor said: terry mccrady @trymcc @lee_ryder Why change? On satday Cab was injured, Marv was looking lost (2nd half). Board did not sign defenders and midfield in summer. Of course he was lost.. He was looking for shola but couldn't find him because pardew had put the fucker on the right wing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 On 20/01/2013 at 19:04, Skeletor said: terry mccrady @trymcc @lee_ryder Why change? On satday Cab was injured, Marv was looking lost (2nd half). Board did not sign defenders and midfield in summer. x100000 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 On 20/01/2013 at 19:06, Mole_Toonfan said: Quote discussing this with ThreatLevel on twitter at the minute. The way I see it: Apparent recruitment drive in France with Carr ---> Manager has little say in incomings ---> pretty much a head coach/DoF setup ---> Find French/French-speaking manager who is available (one that's taken relegation fodder to a respectable mid-table position probably) ---> Inform him that this is the way things work. He will have a little say but is primarily a head coach to work with what he's given. We will also be likely to sell and replace when high-end bids come in ---> New tactical imputes for the team while also being able to engage/man-manage the majority of the squad. Essentially a French Steve Clarke. Only way I could see us getting "better" would be to sack off Graham Carr and give the manager full control, which I can't see us doing at all. Would be ideal scenario although is it paramount that the manager is French? especially with the troubles players like Ben Arfa have had in the past. What i'm getting at is french people don't seem to like french people aye but I'm factoring in what seems to be happening at the minute. If there's another talented manager out there, who at least speaks some French we could appoint him. Couldn't see any English manager accepting such a role though, especially clowns like Mark Hughes. Keegan and Curbishley have also walked in similar circumstances. Ben Arfa could have walked in any circumstance in all honesty. We've been lucky in a sense that he's not kicked off at Pardew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Getting a french manager in just now will take us down too imo. Unless it's someone like Houllier who knows the premiership. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 On 20/01/2013 at 19:10, colinmk said: Getting a french manager in just now will take us down too imo. Unless it's someone like Houllier who knows the premiership. Not sure that matters either..... we have someone atm who knows the premiership and its not exactly working out well.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 If our form and results are purely down to signings and luck, why would binning Pardew be a problem? The investment since we finished 5th has been abysmal to date, but it's far from the only issue. Our slimy manager was saying it wasn't a problem at all at one point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 On 20/01/2013 at 18:49, Tiresias said: If we can get a manager in who will remotivate the squad and get us going forward with some conviction we can maybe stay up. Worth the £6m or so it costs to sack pardew Maybe? We don't have better players/team than 3 teams in this league? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 On 20/01/2013 at 18:26, Cronky said: He succeeded last season with a conservative approach, but unfortunately we're now in a situation where he needs to be bold. A couple of new signings might give him the confidence to try it. Being conservative is an internal thing. External forces will only slightly change that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 http://i.imgur.com/s6hqmYn.png Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 I've said it so many times, what is Alan Pardew's obsession with putting a striker out on the wings when he plays 4-5-1/4-2-3-1? Is because of the advantage of launching it long on the counter so the striker on the wing has aerial advantage over the oppositions fullback? Or is it to save up on having to make subs so he can easily revert to 4-4-2 with two strikers back up top when he shits himself soon after we go one up and he insist on defending a one goal lead? Can anyone please shed any light on what else he might see as an advantage of having the likes of Ba, Cisse, Best, Shola on the wings? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Who needs a striker? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 On 20/01/2013 at 19:20, JH said: Who needs a striker? QPR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Alberto2005 Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Got me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dell Boi Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Fuck sake the title! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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