Yorkie Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 His results still aren't good enough to justify keeping his job imo. Given the amount of investment in January, it was imperative that we made a surge into the top half to ensure we keep players like Cabaye and Ben Arfa. That hasn't happened. That side today should not be losing to a very lacklustre Swansea City, I don't care how many chances they had. We were 16th after the Reading game, gave him some fantastic players, now we're 15th. That's nowhere near enough improvement. Our away form remains disgustingly poor. We've won 4, drawn 1 and lost 2 (i.a.c) since the new players came in. I'm nowhere near convinced about Pardew long-term, but if we're gonna 'surge' - give it a chance. We've improved plenty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 I agree that we probably should still replace him in a idealistic world, but I really cannot criticise him since the new players have arrived. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 What might we have achieved last season had Wayne Routledge been on our books!? Oh, the sleep I have lost. I know it can be frustrating considering the amount of appearances Obertan has had, but it's been two years now and we've made several terrific signings since that sad, sad day when Routledge left. It's pointless even discussing it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 His results still aren't good enough to justify keeping his job imo. Given the amount of investment in January, it was imperative that we made a surge into the top half to ensure we keep players like Cabaye and Ben Arfa. That hasn't happened. That side today should not be losing to a very lacklustre Swansea City, I don't care how many chances they had. We were 16th after the Reading game, gave him some fantastic players, now we're 15th. That's nowhere near enough improvement. Our away form remains disgustingly poor. We've won 4, drawn 1 and lost 2 (i.a.c) since the new players came in. I'm nowhere near convinced about Pardew long-term, but if we're gonna 'surge' - give it a chance. We've improved plenty. Need more improvement given how poor the results were early doors though, he made a rod for his own back. Needs a minimum of 12 points from the next five games and to qualify in the Europa to be at par. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 How would we get more than 12 points? Editing bastard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Already edited. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 His results still aren't good enough to justify keeping his job imo. Given the amount of investment in January, it was imperative that we made a surge into the top half to ensure we keep players like Cabaye and Ben Arfa. That hasn't happened. That side today should not be losing to a very lacklustre Swansea City, I don't care how many chances they had. We were 16th after the Reading game, gave him some fantastic players, now we're 15th. That's nowhere near enough improvement. Our away form remains disgustingly poor. We've won 4, drawn 1 and lost 2 (i.a.c) since the new players came in. I'm nowhere near convinced about Pardew long-term, but if we're gonna 'surge' - give it a chance. We've improved plenty. Need more improvement given how poor the results were early doors though, he made a rod for his own back. Needs a minimum of 12 points from the next five games and to qualify in the Europa to be at par. There's no way I'm going to sit here and defend his overall managerial performance this season. But he's finally been allowed to build on last season's squad - and we've played well, picking up several good results in the process. He's not to blame for today, either. That should have been a draw all day long but mistakes from individual defenders let him down badly. I don't think we can continue sticking the knife in unless he wins every single game left in the season and pushes us up to 7th, or whatever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Funny that he publicly derided Wayne Routledge as not good enough when two years later he's still better than everyone we have in that position other than Ben Arfa. Routledge has improved immeasurably since he joined Swansea. By the time he left us he was playing shite every week. It's a moot point, anyway. Has he bollocks, man. He's just being played in a 4-3-3 instead of being asked to graft in a rigid 4-4-2. Routledge has always been good enough for our squad and would walk into our team with Hatem out. That says more about our options after Ben Arfa than how good Routledge is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 There's no way I'm going to sit here and defend his overall managerial performance this season. But he's finally been allowed to build on last season's squad - and we've played well, picking up several good results in the process. He's not to blame for today, either. That should have been a draw all day long but mistakes from individual defenders let him down badly. I don't think we can continue sticking the knife in unless he wins every single game left in the season and pushes us up to 7th, or whatever. Today should have been a draw and could have been a win, instead it was a defeat and he's partially to blame for that through his lack of movement until the late changes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 good on him to help waste time by bringing on Shola and Marveaux on 88 minutes when the latter should have been on approximately 15 minutes earlier while we were enjoying more possession. Divvy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 He's always been unable to react to changes from the opposition or make changes that make a positive impact on our team. With ten minutes left, there is no way we shouldn't win that game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Today we had no subs on until about 89 minutes were up. Jonas should have been taken off far earlier, hell he shouldn't have even started. I'd inifinitely prefer Anita or Marveaux out there. Pardew is to blame for that, at least. Anyway, this defeat means that by his own rules Pardew is now allowed to change the team for the next league game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 He's always been unable to react to changes from the opposition or make changes that make a positive impact on our team. With ten minutes left, there is no way we shouldn't win that game. agree and I cannat help but think he was hoping we stuck in for the 0-0 when we really had an excellent opportunity to go for the winner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 http://i.imgur.com/XMFzPbL.png Reset/changed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Still need a 'never had any' option. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 No. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Still need a 'never had any' option. Done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Too early to say for me; the improved style of play, performances and results have pleased me but we will see where we are at the end of season before i judge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amir_9 Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Still too early to say, remember how Fulham and Stoke's seasons in the league were when they qualified for the Europa League? Would like to see how he does next season when we aren't in Europe, would also like to see who he/the club gets in the summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Some really strange posts in here today Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Still baby steps really. There's still so many things Pardew can improve on - he still needs to learn from his mistakes. But I will give him credit for the last few weeks. It's going rather well and the team spirit is slowly coming back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebellious Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Still too early to say, remember how Fulham and Stoke's seasons in the league were when they qualified for the Europa League? Would like to see how he does next season when we aren't in Europe, would also like to see who he/the club gets in the summer. I don`t think we are getting anyone in the summer unless any go. Maybe a striker and thats it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 I'm trying not to think about the summer too much, because goalscorers aside I think the squad is now almost as good as we can realistically expect it to be. If anyone goes it'll probably be a big, unpopular sale. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 I don't think he did anything wrong today. We didn't need to make substitutions are we were playing the best football we had all game just before they scored and for one of the first times this season we didn't come out for the second half looking like he'd put the fear of God into them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Some really strange posts in here today In what way? Just out of curiosity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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