dcmk Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 You cant be serious. Pardews fault that Yanga Mbiwa was complete w*** today.. how protected can a set of players get? Honestly. If we had been a bit better when going forward we mightn't have had our players being put under as much pressure, just a thought. So that explains why MYM and Taylor couldn't do even the simple things today. Right-o! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Not sure why I expected anything other than a barrage of abuse for suggesting giving Pardew another year after that performance. Fwiw, I also want the best for NUFC unsurprisingly. Actually quite apathetic towards the decision of whether he stays or not. The alternative options aren't particularly appetising at all. Hopefully a couple of decent additions and a luckier season on the injury front will result in a campaign more similar to last year's. So aye, for reasons unknown to even myself, I'd give him another year. Soz. We attack with 3 players. We sit too deep. These are tactical decisions from the manager. Irrespective of the summer, we'll STILL play s***, uninspiring football. We did well last season despite Pardew, not because of him. We ended up with a front 3 of Ba, Ben Arfa and Cisse and it worked well. We still only attacked with 3 players, but they were 3 very direct forward players and they offered enough threat to the opposition that we got a few goals. Now we've lost Ba, Ben Arfa has missed nearly all the season and teams know what we're about and how we'll play. Also, loads of other teams underperformed last season and allowed us to sneak in. We can't be so utterly reliant on 3 players for any success whatsoever because when something goes wrong (Ba sold, Ben Arfa injured) we're f***ed, as this season shows. Our system is rubbish, it relies on exceptional individuals performing moments of magic. the reason we cant keep the ball, short or long. when we play short balls our players are too far away from each other, thus leads to miss passes and mistakes more often. thats the by-product of keeping rigid formation shape and restricting players movement towards the ball. when we play it long its usually to a man with no team mates near him, even if he can control it he will be crowded out by the opposition. another by-product of keeping rigid shape. yet somehow pardew keeps encouraging this type of tripe when he can clearly see its not working. thats tell you everything, he doesnt know how to change it! how we play every game as a team is what he preaches, that is what he knows best and he's limited and he can only stick to what he only knows. im tired of having ago at his ineptitude, im starting to feel sorry for him, its like having a go at one of our shit players when we know he's really shit and theres nothing he can do about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 So that explains why MYM and Taylor couldn't do even the simple things today. Right-o! I didn't see M'Biwa do too much wrong but I'll stand by my thinking that putting ourselves under pressure isn't good for the defenders that our manager trains for 4 days out of 5. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Pardew's pre-match comments about not wanting Sunderland to be relegated are coming back to haunt him. He should have saved comments like that until after we'd beaten them. Pardew also said pre-game about how he respects Di Canio. Meanwhile Di Canio's pre-match talk was of how good it would be to beat NUFC in their own stadium and how it would be better to win in front of 50,000 enemies than to win at home in front of your own fans. Not one word about respecting NUFC came out of his mouth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 You cant be serious. Pardews fault that Yanga Mbiwa was complete w*** today.. how protected can a set of players get? Honestly. If we had been a bit better when going forward we mightn't have had our players being put under as much pressure, just a thought. So that explains why MYM and Taylor couldn't do even the simple things today. Right-o! Taylor has never been very good one on one, which is why he usually runs away from his man and tries to save it on the goal line instead. Mbiwa was pretty decent I thought. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmymag Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Pardew's Sky interview: "Tired, tired, tired, tired, tired!" Fuck's sake - he said tired 8 times in the first 20 seconds! Unacceptable! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 A manager instills the tactics, the movement within a system, organises the set peices and puts his football philosophy into his players. He is the one who gives them positivity and confidence in themselves to go and play. We play poor football, have no tactics, no movement within a system, our players are constantly told they are tired, and can't manage 2 games in 3 days. Set penises full fucking stop. We have Alan Pardew as our manager.....is there anymore to be said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmk Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 No fire in his belly, I want to hear him fuming over the disallowed goal I want him spitting "goals change game" even if he didn't belie it we the fans and the players need to hear and see he has fight in him. Its all so controlled and measured and its how we try to play, its not working.. the scum went out all fired up we went calm and controlled, both CB's looked terrified to make a challenge in the box, looked like a tactic "they will get a pen be careful be sure blah blah blah" it effected both of them MYM got rolled so many times and thats not him but he is not being allowed to play his natural game. You cant be serious. Pardews fault that Yanga Mbiwa was complete w*** today.. how protected can a set of players get? Honestly. I agree that the players should be getting their fare share of stick, but you can't say that it is merely a coincidence that the likes of MYM, Sissoko, Gouffran are suddenly playing crap at the same time? Not to mention the form of the other players that have been here longer. MYM hasn't been playing crap at all. I have been very impressed with him. Today was his worse game IMO. And Sissoko being played in a bit of an alien position for him has a great deal of assists to his name already. So would hardly say he's playing shit either. Gouffran on the other hand.. no one knows how good he really is. This particilar angle that is used against Pardew is totally overplayed. I don't think our supporters particularly want to critise these new players Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Pardew's Sky interview: "Tired, tired, tired, tired, tired!" f***'s sake - he said tired 8 times in the first 20 seconds! Unacceptable! Tired from the first minute. utter bollocks. His lies dont work anymore. No fight of desire to take it on today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nepharite Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Chelsea don't look that tired. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Pardew's pre-match comments about not wanting Sunderland to be relegated are coming back to haunt him. He should have saved comments like that until after we'd beaten them. Pardew also said pre-game about how he respects Di Canio. Meanwhile Di Canio's pre-match talk was of how good it would be to beat NUFC in their own stadium and how it would be better to win in front of 50,000 enemies than to win at home in front of your own fans. Not one word about respecting NUFC came out of his mouth. Di Canio's belief and aggressive posturing has clearly rubbed off on his players. It might implode next season, but he clearly was the boss today. Pardew was nervous and I'm not really sure why, the pressure should have been all on them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
morpeth mag Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Thought Pardew bottled the LB decision choosing Jonas over Hadaira and got the timing of the Shola sub wrong - we lost all shape in the second half. Better to bring on HBA first whilst we still play 433. Also doesn't seem to realise that Tiote is holding this team back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 It's getting into petty name calling territory for me. I'm so frustrated that we're persevering with this inept prick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 MYM hasn't been playing crap at all. I have been very impressed with him. Today was his worse game IMO. And Sissoko being played in a bit of an alien position for him has a great deal of assists to his name already. So would hardly say he's playing s*** either. Gouffran on the other hand.. no one knows how good he really is. This particilar angle that is used against Pardew is totally overplayed. I don't think our supporters particularly want to critise these new players Turn your mic on Stevie, I can't hear you. http://i47.tinypic.com/zlekqs.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmymag Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Pardew's Sky interview: "Tired, tired, tired, tired, tired!" f***'s sake - he said tired 8 times in the first 20 seconds! Unacceptable! Tired from the first minute. utter bollocks. His lies dont work anymore. No fight of desire to take it on today. He gave the players the excuse before the game though. You don't have to be a trained psychologist to know what's likely to happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Chelsea don't look that tired. Can't compare them to us man, they only played in Russia Thursday ni.......oh wait. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Thing with that excuse is that it always becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. Hate it being used. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 No fire in his belly, I want to hear him fuming over the disallowed goal I want him spitting "goals change game" even if he didn't belie it we the fans and the players need to hear and see he has fight in him. Its all so controlled and measured and its how we try to play, its not working.. the scum went out all fired up we went calm and controlled, both CB's looked terrified to make a challenge in the box, looked like a tactic "they will get a pen be careful be sure blah blah blah" it effected both of them MYM got rolled so many times and thats not him but he is not being allowed to play his natural game. You cant be serious. Pardews fault that Yanga Mbiwa was complete w*** today.. how protected can a set of players get? Honestly. I agree that the players should be getting their fare share of stick, but you can't say that it is merely a coincidence that the likes of MYM, Sissoko, Gouffran are suddenly playing crap at the same time? Not to mention the form of the other players that have been here longer. MYM hasn't been playing crap at all. I have been very impressed with him. Today was his worse game IMO. And Sissoko being played in a bit of an alien position for him has a great deal of assists to his name already. So would hardly say he's playing coral either. Gouffran on the other hand.. no one knows how good he really is. This particilar angle that is used against Pardew is totally overplayed. I don't think our supporters particularly want to critise these new players MYM has been a bit shaky recently. Sissoko is playing out of position? Who's fault is that? And, if you've seen enough of our last 5-6 games, you'd realise that Sissoko has been infective apart from a few good numbers of goals and assists. (When was his last goal/assist?) And it's not solely about these new players, I did say "Not to mention the form of the other players that have been here longer.". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 He used it when there was an excuse. We've bought players since then so it shouldn't wash even with those that empathised with him beforehand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenige Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Get him out and Moyes in. Everton are skint, yet he has his teams play with heart and desire and for each other. We have a great scouting network, transfer funds and 50k plus Geordies who will idolise him if he does with us what he has consistently done at Everton. And has Everton playing far more like a Stoke than a Swansea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimplyAnth Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 8 years man, what the fuck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmymag Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11678/8639762/Alan-Pardew-admits-Newcastle-looked-tired-during-derby-defeat-to-Sunderland The Magpies boss told Sky Sports: "It looked like a team that had worked all week on the opposition and were fresh, and the other team looked tired - that was our team. "We were tired and lost our shape a little bit at times and were off the cuff. We were just tired in the mind and in the body. A game like that, you can't be. It took its toll on us this week. Clueless cunt! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11678/8639762/Alan-Pardew-admits-Newcastle-looked-tired-during-derby-defeat-to-Sunderland The Magpies boss told Sky Sports: "It looked like a team that had worked all week on the opposition and were fresh, and the other team looked tired - that was our team. "We were tired and lost our shape a little bit at times and were off the cuff. We were just tired in the mind and in the body. A game like that, you can't be. It took its toll on us this week. Clueless cunt! get the fuck out of our club you defeatist cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Can't see the football that we are playing/performances shifting many s/t's this summer and when cash is tight for most folk, it might be the deciding factor. Finishing 5th last season gave us hope that things were gonna get better, but the club has blown it. That might be a factor in him being replaced. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudil Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11678/8639762/Alan-Pardew-admits-Newcastle-looked-tired-during-derby-defeat-to-Sunderland The Magpies boss told Sky Sports: "It looked like a team that had worked all week on the opposition and were fresh, and the other team looked tired - that was our team. "We were tired and lost our shape a little bit at times and were off the cuff. We were just tired in the mind and in the body. A game like that, you can't be. It took its toll on us this week. Clueless c***! He really, really thinks this is the key and what makes him such a fantastic manager in his own mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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