Alan Pardew

[Teasy]

Would it be worth getting relegated if Pardew fucked off I wonder

 

:lol:)

 

Its almost banable isnt it

[Guest bimpy474]

Because the players didn't stop it.

 

Players trained, tactically by Pardew.

[LV]

I'm staggered anyone can defend Pardew after this season. The football is horrendous to watch, we aren't winning, we have the worst away record in the country.

 

If that isn't his fault, then who's is it.

 

 

 

If they're still defending him after losing 3-0 at home to Sunderland with Di Canio preening like a peacock then what's left to say?

 

 

 

Aye, thing is i'm not saying this after losing to Sunderland, as emotive as that is. I just can't believe they have watched us this whole season and think he deserves to stay.

 

Tbf, I think you were one of those who had doubts even when we were doing well last season.

 

I was, but it was the football style then I'm a hater of long ball/hoofball, for me that's the football of a lazy manager, a percentage manager who isn't good enough to get his team to pass the ball.

 

I actually unlike some, don't mind Pardew the bloke but the football, oh god. Its so poor that it beggars belief and if i do blow my own trumpet, tis i that came up with Set Penises

 

Those set penises are a sacking offence alone IMO. Nothing showcases Pardew's lack of imagination more clearly than our impotent corners.

 

It's not just Pardew though is it. What do Steve Stone, Carver and the like actually do in training? It feels like we run the coaching side on a shoestring - I'm pretty sure other clubs have a larger number of staff in the coaching department. As far as I can see it's just Pardew, Carver, Steve Stone and Woodman. Not sure if that's enough coaching talent for a Premier league team.

[Dr Venkman]

Don't mind being a long ball team but i do when the midfield consists of Tiote, Gouffran, Marveaux, Sissoko and Cabaye ffs.

 

How hard can it be to play to a teams strengths

 

We looked just as s*** playing in on the deck today. If anything, the option to play effective long ball may have won us the game. Sadly we have no real outlet for it.

 

And with Tiote as the deepest midfielder frankly I think hoofball would be less dangerous.

 

Mainly because of how deep we were, in any case hoofball is out of the question when Cisse is your centre forward.

 

I just wish you'd stop trying to imply we have this really talented, technical midfield. Our lot consistently struggle to keep the ball under and pressure and generally create not a bastarding thing.

 

Mate you can get rid of this midfield and bring in a new one for £30m, with a manager that sets them up to play like wax dummies it won't make a jot of difference.

 

I quite agree. Still think two many players get away with too much on here.

 

You consistently question the technical ability of a midfield consisting of any 4 from Cabaye, Marveux, Tiote, Sissoko, Ben Arfa, Jonas and Anita and I'd like you to explain why?

 

I'd argue that our best 4 midfielders are as good as most in the Premiership but you obviously don't. Please enlighten us.

 

Take away the crap, unsuited and mostly injured and you're left with Cabaye, Marveaux and Sissoko. Hope that helps.

 

Sad to see you plunge to these depths to defend him at the last like. 'Unsuited' for fucks sake. They're good players, a good manager would be able to make them a good team.

[KDT]

Would it be worth getting relegated if Pardew f***ed off I wonder

 

No, have you seen how hard it is to get out of that division.

It was pretty f***ing easy the last time

 

Ok, so we go down and sell Krul, Debuchy, Mbiwa, Colo, Santon, Jonas, Cabaye, Tiote, Gouffran, Sissoko, Cisse, Marveaux. That sounds like a great idea.

[Flip]

Don't mind being a long ball team but i do when the midfield consists of Tiote, Gouffran, Marveaux, Sissoko and Cabaye ffs.

 

How hard can it be to play to a teams strengths

 

We looked just as s*** playing in on the deck today. If anything, the option to play effective long ball may have won us the game. Sadly we have no real outlet for it.

 

And with Tiote as the deepest midfielder frankly I think hoofball would be less dangerous.

 

Mainly because of how deep we were, in any case hoofball is out of the question when Cisse is your centre forward.

 

I just wish you'd stop trying to imply we have this really talented, technical midfield. Our lot consistently struggle to keep the ball under and pressure and generally create not a bastarding thing.

 

Mate you can get rid of this midfield and bring in a new one for £30m, with a manager that sets them up to play like wax dummies it won't make a jot of difference.

 

I quite agree. Still think two many players get away with too much on here.

 

You consistently question the technical ability of a midfield consisting of any 4 from Cabaye, Marveux, Tiote, Sissoko, Ben Arfa, Jonas and Anita and I'd like you to explain why?

 

I'd argue that our best 4 midfielders are as good as most in the Premiership but you obviously don't. Please enlighten us.

 

Take away the crap, unsuited and mostly injured and you're left with Cabaye, Marveaux and Sissoko. Hope that helps.

 

Sad to see you plunge to these depths to defend him at the last like. 'Unsuited' for f***s sake. They're good players, a good manager would be able to make them a good team.

 

I don't think he's defending Pardew, he does have a point in the sense they're not as good as made out in here some of them. But yeah he's definitely overreacting calling them gutless and talentless. He's always had an agenda towards Cabaye though...

[Si]

Would it be worth getting relegated if Pardew f***ed off I wonder

 

No, have you seen how hard it is to get out of that division.

It was pretty f***ing easy the last time

 

Ok, so we go down and sell Krul, Debuchy, Mbiwa, Colo, Santon, Jonas, Cabaye, Tiote, Gouffran, Sissoko, Cisse, Marveaux. That sounds like a great idea.

 

Not forgetting the Trillion Dollar t.v deal we would miss out on.

[Flip]

Which of the 3 goals were down to Pardews inefficiency?

 

Playing Jonas at left back was definitely the cause of the first goal.

 

He gave the ball away with a simple pass, he wasn't caught out positionally which is what you could complain about Pardew playing him at left back.

 

Astonishingly bad posts KDT. Honestly man, you have to watch the game and not the highlights to draw the conclusion that Pardew was at fault for a lot today. I also don't think there's been a massive swing towards him because solely of this performance. The whole seasons has been embarrassing. Get rid of him come summer and start fresh.

[TRon]

I'm staggered anyone can defend Pardew after this season. The football is horrendous to watch, we aren't winning, we have the worst away record in the country.

 

If that isn't his fault, then who's is it.

 

 

 

If they're still defending him after losing 3-0 at home to Sunderland with Di Canio preening like a peacock then what's left to say?

 

 

 

Aye, thing is i'm not saying this after losing to Sunderland, as emotive as that is. I just can't believe they have watched us this whole season and think he deserves to stay.

 

Tbf, I think you were one of those who had doubts even when we were doing well last season.

 

I was, but it was the football style then I'm a hater of long ball/hoofball, for me that's the football of a lazy manager, a percentage manager who isn't good enough to get his team to pass the ball.

 

I actually unlike some, don't mind Pardew the bloke but the football, oh god. Its so poor that it beggars belief and if i do blow my own trumpet, tis i that came up with Set Penises

 

Those set penises are a sacking offence alone IMO. Nothing showcases Pardew's lack of imagination more clearly than our impotent corners.

 

It's not just Pardew though is it. What do Steve Stone, Carver and the like actually do in training? It feels like we run the coaching side on a shoestring - I'm pretty sure other clubs have a larger number of staff in the coaching department. As far as I can see it's just Pardew, Carver, Steve Stone and Woodman. Not sure if that's enough coaching talent for a Premier league team.

 

How much budget do Southampton or Swansea allocate to their coaching staff? If you get a man with clear ideas on how he wants to set a team up then I'm sure he can find staff to help implement it. Carver and Stone are there because they are geordies and get Pardew local brownie points more than for their technical know how IMO.

[triggs]

Would it be worth getting relegated if Pardew f***ed off I wonder

 

No, have you seen how hard it is to get out of that division.

It was pretty f***ing easy the last time

 

Ok, so we go down and sell Krul, Debuchy, Mbiwa, Colo, Santon, Jonas, Cabaye, Tiote, Gouffran, Sissoko, Cisse, Marveaux. That sounds like a great idea.

I would rather build a whole new team than have Pardew as manager for the next 7 years

[Guest bimpy474]

I'm staggered anyone can defend Pardew after this season. The football is horrendous to watch, we aren't winning, we have the worst away record in the country.

 

If that isn't his fault, then who's is it.

 

 

 

If they're still defending him after losing 3-0 at home to Sunderland with Di Canio preening like a peacock then what's left to say?

 

 

 

Aye, thing is i'm not saying this after losing to Sunderland, as emotive as that is. I just can't believe they have watched us this whole season and think he deserves to stay.

 

Tbf, I think you were one of those who had doubts even when we were doing well last season.

 

I was, but it was the football style then I'm a hater of long ball/hoofball, for me that's the football of a lazy manager, a percentage manager who isn't good enough to get his team to pass the ball.

 

I actually unlike some, don't mind Pardew the bloke but the football, oh god. Its so poor that it beggars belief and if i do blow my own trumpet, tis i that came up with Set Penises

 

Those set penises are a sacking offence alone IMO. Nothing showcases Pardew's lack of imagination more clearly than our impotent corners.

 

It's not just Pardew though is it. What do Steve Stone, Carver and the like actually do in training? It feels like we run the coaching side on a shoestring - I'm pretty sure other clubs have a larger number of staff in the coaching department. As far as I can see it's just Pardew, Carver, Steve Stone and Woodman. Not sure if that's enough coaching talent for a Premier league team.

 

Might be something in what you say but Sir Bobby had Carver, Wadsworth and who else ?

 

Sir Bobby was a better manager, tbh it really is that simple.

[duo]

Couldn't believe it when Shola jogged on at the start of the second half like. Was even more mortified when most around me started giving it the big one and being encouraged by this.

 

Hopefully this 'Mackem Slayer' nonsense can be put to bed now. He's not a mackem slayer at all, he's a poor striker who's been around the club long enough to score a few apst the same opposition 5 or 6 times.

 

Shola should only ever be a last resort in any game. Today he was Pardew's answer to the first half bumming we took. Absolutely shambolic from both Shola, who had zero influence on the game whatsoever, and Pardew.

well said 

[KDT]

Which of the 3 goals were down to Pardews inefficiency?

 

Playing Jonas at left back was definitely the cause of the first goal.

 

He gave the ball away with a simple pass, he wasn't caught out positionally which is what you could complain about Pardew playing him at left back.

 

Astonishingly bad posts KDT. Honestly man, you have to watch the game and not the highlights to draw the conclusion that Pardew was at fault for a lot today. I also don't think there's been a massive swing towards him because solely of this performance. The whole seasons has been embarrassing. Get rid of him come summer and start fresh.

 

I'm not against getting rid of Pardew to start again in the summer, I just don't think today can solely be based on Pardew. I watched the full game and not just the highlights, we got caught out by Sessegnon again dropping into space like what happened in the last derby at home.

[LV]

I'm staggered anyone can defend Pardew after this season. The football is horrendous to watch, we aren't winning, we have the worst away record in the country.

 

If that isn't his fault, then who's is it.

 

 

 

If they're still defending him after losing 3-0 at home to Sunderland with Di Canio preening like a peacock then what's left to say?

 

 

 

Aye, thing is i'm not saying this after losing to Sunderland, as emotive as that is. I just can't believe they have watched us this whole season and think he deserves to stay.

 

Tbf, I think you were one of those who had doubts even when we were doing well last season.

 

I was, but it was the football style then I'm a hater of long ball/hoofball, for me that's the football of a lazy manager, a percentage manager who isn't good enough to get his team to pass the ball.

 

I actually unlike some, don't mind Pardew the bloke but the football, oh god. Its so poor that it beggars belief and if i do blow my own trumpet, tis i that came up with Set Penises

 

Those set penises are a sacking offence alone IMO. Nothing showcases Pardew's lack of imagination more clearly than our impotent corners.

 

It's not just Pardew though is it. What do Steve Stone, Carver and the like actually do in training? It feels like we run the coaching side on a shoestring - I'm pretty sure other clubs have a larger number of staff in the coaching department. As far as I can see it's just Pardew, Carver, Steve Stone and Woodman. Not sure if that's enough coaching talent for a Premier league team.

 

How much budget do Southampton or Swansea allocate to their coaching staff? If you get a man with clear ideas on how he wants to set a team up then I'm sure he can find staff to help implement it. Carver and Stone are there because they are geordies and get Pardew local brownie points more than for their technical know how IMO.

 

Agreed. Which is worrying. So which one is the actual coach then? A coach who can nurture and develop international-class players such as Ben Arfa and Cabaye. I dont think I see one anywhere at the club.

[Decky]

Genuine question, do any of you see Pardew coming back from this? He has a long way to go for me. A disgraceful season followed by losing 3-0 at home to fucking Sunderland, and we can still go down too. The man has to go, this is ridiculous.

[Dave]

Which of the 3 goals were down to Pardews inefficiency?

 

Playing Jonas at left back was definitely the cause of the first goal.

 

He gave the ball away with a simple pass, he wasn't caught out positionally which is what you could complain about Pardew playing him at left back.

 

Astonishingly bad posts KDT. Honestly man, you have to watch the game and not the highlights to draw the conclusion that Pardew was at fault for a lot today. I also don't think there's been a massive swing towards him because solely of this performance. The whole seasons has been embarrassing. Get rid of him come summer and start fresh.

 

I'm not against getting rid of Pardew to start again in the summer, I just don't think today can solely be based on Pardew. I watched the full game and not just the highlights, we got caught out by Sessegnon again dropping into space like what happened in the last derby at home.

 

Is that the one Pardew was also in charge for?

[TRon]

I'm staggered anyone can defend Pardew after this season. The football is horrendous to watch, we aren't winning, we have the worst away record in the country.

 

If that isn't his fault, then who's is it.

 

 

 

If they're still defending him after losing 3-0 at home to Sunderland with Di Canio preening like a peacock then what's left to say?

 

 

 

Aye, thing is i'm not saying this after losing to Sunderland, as emotive as that is. I just can't believe they have watched us this whole season and think he deserves to stay.

 

Tbf, I think you were one of those who had doubts even when we were doing well last season.

 

I was, but it was the football style then I'm a hater of long ball/hoofball, for me that's the football of a lazy manager, a percentage manager who isn't good enough to get his team to pass the ball.

 

I actually unlike some, don't mind Pardew the bloke but the football, oh god. Its so poor that it beggars belief and if i do blow my own trumpet, tis i that came up with Set Penises

 

Those set penises are a sacking offence alone IMO. Nothing showcases Pardew's lack of imagination more clearly than our impotent corners.

 

It's not just Pardew though is it. What do Steve Stone, Carver and the like actually do in training? It feels like we run the coaching side on a shoestring - I'm pretty sure other clubs have a larger number of staff in the coaching department. As far as I can see it's just Pardew, Carver, Steve Stone and Woodman. Not sure if that's enough coaching talent for a Premier league team.

 

Might be something in what you say but Sir Bobby had Carver, Wadsworth and who else ?

 

Sir Bobby was a better manager, tbh it really is that simple.

 

SBR had very clear idea of his football philosophy though. High energy midfield and lots of pace. All the technical coaches in the world can't help if the man at the top doesn't know what to do. Incidentally, SBR also knew how to adapt to the players he had. With Big Dunc and Shearer he was quite happy to play long ball, but he still moved to a quick passing game once he was able to buy his own players.

[KDT]

Can discuss it until you are a blue in the face but he's not going to get the sack.

[Teasy]

Can discuss it until you are a blue in the face but he's not going to get the sack.

 

Not sure I agree like, maybe not now, but I think this has marked his card.

[colinmk]

Can go on about coaches etc but who did Hughton have bar Calderwood? The manager is the one in charge of his coaches anyway, its not a valid point.

[TRon]

Can discuss it until you are a blue in the face but he's not going to get the sack.

 

It depends how long Ashley is prepared to spend big money on players who Pardew continues to make look shite. Ashley's never struck me as someone who likes wasting money.

[dcmk]

I'm staggered anyone can defend Pardew after this season. The football is horrendous to watch, we aren't winning, we have the worst away record in the country.

 

If that isn't his fault, then who's is it.

 

 

 

If they're still defending him after losing 3-0 at home to Sunderland with Di Canio preening like a peacock then what's left to say?

 

 

 

Aye, thing is i'm not saying this after losing to Sunderland, as emotive as that is. I just can't believe they have watched us this whole season and think he deserves to stay.

 

Tbf, I think you were one of those who had doubts even when we were doing well last season.

 

I was, but it was the football style then I'm a hater of long ball/hoofball, for me that's the football of a lazy manager, a percentage manager who isn't good enough to get his team to pass the ball.

 

I actually unlike some, don't mind Pardew the bloke but the football, oh god. Its so poor that it beggars belief and if i do blow my own trumpet, tis i that came up with Set Penises

 

Those set penises are a sacking offence alone IMO. Nothing showcases Pardew's lack of imagination more clearly than our impotent corners.

 

It's not just Pardew though is it. What do Steve Stone, Carver and the like actually do in training? It feels like we run the coaching side on a shoestring - I'm pretty sure other clubs have a larger number of staff in the coaching department. As far as I can see it's just Pardew, Carver, Steve Stone and Woodman. Not sure if that's enough coaching talent for a Premier league team.

 

Might be something in what you say but Sir Bobby had Carver, Wadsworth and who else ?

 

Sir Bobby was a better manager, tbh it really is that simple.

 

SBR had very clear idea of his football philosophy though. High energy midfield and lots of pace. All the technical coaches in the world can't help if the man at the top doesn't know what to do. Incidentally, SBR also knew how to adapt to the players he had. With Big Dunc and Shearer he was quite happy to play long ball, but he still moved to a quick passing game once he was able to buy his own players.

 

The season we finished 5th under SBR we must have played about 5 minutes of football that year.  It wasn't good by any means.

[bowlingcrofty]

Surely there's a 'shite' clause in his contract where we can sack him for nowt if we're shit.

[Guest bimpy474]

Which of the 3 goals were down to Pardews inefficiency?

 

Playing Jonas at left back was definitely the cause of the first goal.

 

He gave the ball away with a simple pass, he wasn't caught out positionally which is what you could complain about Pardew playing him at left back.

 

Astonishingly bad posts KDT. Honestly man, you have to watch the game and not the highlights to draw the conclusion that Pardew was at fault for a lot today. I also don't think there's been a massive swing towards him because solely of this performance. The whole seasons has been embarrassing. Get rid of him come summer and start fresh.

 

I'm not against getting rid of Pardew to start again in the summer, I just don't think today can solely be based on Pardew. I watched the full game and not just the highlights, we got caught out by Sessegnon again dropping into space like what happened in the last derby at home.

 

Is that the one Pardew was also in charge for?

 

And something i've been saying for months, despite playing three in CM, we still leave a massive space in front of our DC's. Tactically it's rank bad.

[AlanSkÃrare]

Probably been asked, but what was the mood around there today?

 

Are the majority starting to turn on him?

 

Today had me deflated to a degree I haven't experienced since relegation. Fucking unbelievably painful to watch that.