jimmymag Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Out of interest, who still supports him? Honestly I'd still have him for next season, theres no one currently unemployed who is that appealing to me (and thats the realistic front for a mew manager) And another season of anti-football is more appealing than getting anyone else in? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 i have a hard time believing ashley will agree compo for another clubs manager Benitez wouldn't cost much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 There's no way the players should get away with this. He's the manager and takes overall responsibility but their performance was awful. He's not just responsible though, he's accountable. This. Buck stops at Pardew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 i have a hard time believing ashley will agree compo for another clubs manager Benitez wouldn't cost much. other than wages and that he'd want to go into a cl side based on evidence available Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Not sure why I expected anything other than a barrage of abuse for suggesting giving Pardew another year after that performance. Fwiw, I also want the best for NUFC unsurprisingly. Actually quite apathetic towards the decision of whether he stays or not. The alternative options aren't particularly appetising at all. Hopefully a couple of decent additions and a luckier season on the injury front will result in a campaign more similar to last year's. So aye, for reasons unknown to even myself, I'd give him another year. Soz. he's a poor manager. Regardless of whether or not you want the best for NUFC if you cannot see that you're mental. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmymag Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 There's no way the players should get away with this. He's the manager and takes overall responsibility but their performance was awful. He's not just responsible though, he's accountable. He's only accountable to Fat Ash though. Doesn't matter what we think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 other than wages and that he'd want to go into a cl side based on evidence available He'll not get a CL side as he's said he wants to stay in the Premiership. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 The decision to bring Shola on for Gouffran at half time is the equivalent of gross misconduct in any other work place. Gouffran did absolutely fuck all in the first half though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Out of interest, who still supports him? Honestly I'd still have him for next season, theres no one currently unemployed who is that appealing to me (and thats the realistic front for a mew manager) And another season of anti-football is more appealing than getting anyone else in? not if its just any idiot usually mentioned when a job opens (eg mark hughes alan curbishley etc) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 other than wages and that he'd want to go into a cl side based on evidence available He'll not get a CL side as he's said he wants to stay in the Premiership. he'll still want to get one, hence why he was unemployed for a good while after Inter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 The players' performances were awful but it's all a by-product of the approach to every game. Easy to criticise a cross that's easily cut out but when it always has to be aimed towards one specific man because the entire midfield is holding back, it's rarely going to find him. I was concerned earlier this week when I read that Di Canio had asked for at least four men in the box when they attack because that is the total antithesis to us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Not sure why I expected anything other than a barrage of abuse for suggesting giving Pardew another year after that performance. Fwiw, I also want the best for NUFC unsurprisingly. Actually quite apathetic towards the decision of whether he stays or not. The alternative options aren't particularly appetising at all. Hopefully a couple of decent additions and a luckier season on the injury front will result in a campaign more similar to last year's. So aye, for reasons unknown to even myself, I'd give him another year. Soz. he's a poor manager. Regardless of whether or not you want the best for NUFC if you cannot see that you're mental. If you'd referred to him as a poor manager after the Chelsea 2-0 you'd almost certainly have been labelled a mental tbf. Your concern for my mental constitution is touching though Hans. Thank you x Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Didnt help we played three different formations like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Right feeling less angry about it all now, it's in the back of my mind, I just hope it doesn't develop in to a tumour. That aside, my derby win will be his head on a plate, nothing less will do. Now I'm off to try and rescue what's left of wor lasses birthday, feel so sorry for her since the last 2 hours has been all about me being in a world class strop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Not sure if I'm disabled, but I'd still give him next season. Obviously wouldn't be in tears if we found a suitable replacement, but the chances of that happening are slim thanks to Big Mike. Pleased for those who have their week of Pardew gloating to look forward to. Enjoy it. Well, you've named yourself after a disabled person so... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmymag Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22145342 Pardew: "Tired from first minute". Incredible! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 No fire in his belly, I want to hear him fuming over the disallowed goal I want him spitting "goals change game" even if he didn't belie it we the fans and the players need to hear and see he has fight in him. Its all so controlled and measured and its how we try to play, its not working.. the scum went out all fired up we went calm and controlled, both CB's looked terrified to make a challenge in the box, looked like a tactic "they will get a pen be careful be sure blah blah blah" it effected both of them MYM got rolled so many times and thats not him but he is not being allowed to play his natural game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 The decision to bring Shola on for Gouffran at half time is the equivalent of gross misconduct in any other work place. Gouffran did absolutely f*** all in the first half though. Looked dangerous at the start, faded. Just needed a bit of a kick up the arse at half-time. Bringing on Shola was the complete opposite of 'the right thing to do'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 The players' performances were awful but it's all a by-product of the approach to every game. Easy to criticise a cross that's easily cut out but when it always has to be aimed towards one specific man because the entire midfield is holding back, it's rarely going to find him. I was concerned earlier this week when I read that Di Canio had asked for at least four men in the box when they attack because that is the total antithesis to us. Does anyone here doubt that Di Canio is going to do far more for Sunderland's game than Pardew is capable of doing for us? If Pardew stays then the humiliation we faced to day will only escalate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Not sure why I expected anything other than a barrage of abuse for suggesting giving Pardew another year after that performance. Fwiw, I also want the best for NUFC unsurprisingly. Actually quite apathetic towards the decision of whether he stays or not. The alternative options aren't particularly appetising at all. Hopefully a couple of decent additions and a luckier season on the injury front will result in a campaign more similar to last year's. So aye, for reasons unknown to even myself, I'd give him another year. Soz. We attack with 3 players. We sit too deep. These are tactical decisions from the manager. Irrespective of the summer, we'll STILL play s***, uninspiring football. We did well last season despite Pardew, not because of him. We ended up with a front 3 of Ba, Ben Arfa and Cisse and it worked well. We still only attacked with 3 players, but they were 3 very direct forward players and they offered enough threat to the opposition that we got a few goals. Now we've lost Ba, Ben Arfa has missed nearly all the season and teams know what we're about and how we'll play. Also, loads of other teams underperformed last season and allowed us to sneak in. We can't be so utterly reliant on 3 players for any success whatsoever because when something goes wrong (Ba sold, Ben Arfa injured) we're f***ed, as this season shows. Our system is rubbish, it relies on exceptional individuals performing moments of magic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Not sure why I expected anything other than a barrage of abuse for suggesting giving Pardew another year after that performance. Fwiw, I also want the best for NUFC unsurprisingly. Actually quite apathetic towards the decision of whether he stays or not. The alternative options aren't particularly appetising at all. Hopefully a couple of decent additions and a luckier season on the injury front will result in a campaign more similar to last year's. So aye, for reasons unknown to even myself, I'd give him another year. Soz. he's a poor manager. Regardless of whether or not you want the best for NUFC if you cannot see that you're mental. If you'd referred to him as a poor manager after the Chelsea 2-0 you'd almost certainly have been labelled a mental tbf. Your concern for my mental constitution is touching though Hans. Thank you x And what would you say to those of us who voiced concerns at the style of play last year. Having watched football and knowing that those kind of tactics will eventually get sussed out and no longer work. And knew from Pardew's previous managerial record, that it shows he starts well and then falls away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memphis Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Players seemed to make their opinion of him and his tactical approach quite clear with that disgraceful effort. There's no way the players should get away with this. He's the manager and takes overall responsibility but their performance was awful. That should not be taken as an excuse for the players. I agree with you entirely, the players deserve all the stick they'll get and they should be professional enough to motivate themselves. BUT - a team so bereft of inspiration in a match that big just screams of losing the dressing room. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmymag Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 No fire in his belly, I want to hear him fuming over the disallowed goal I want him spitting "goals change game" even if he didn't belie it we the fans and the players need to hear and see he has fight in him. Its all so controlled and measured and its how we try to play, its not working.. the scum went out all fired up we went calm and controlled, both CB's looked terrified to make a challenge in the box, looked like a tactic "they will get a pen be careful be sure blah blah blah" it effected both of them MYM got rolled so many times and thats not him but he is not being allowed to play his natural game. One thing we aren't/weren't is "controlled". Clueless more like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Not sure why I expected anything other than a barrage of abuse for suggesting giving Pardew another year after that performance. Fwiw, I also want the best for NUFC unsurprisingly. Actually quite apathetic towards the decision of whether he stays or not. The alternative options aren't particularly appetising at all. Hopefully a couple of decent additions and a luckier season on the injury front will result in a campaign more similar to last year's. So aye, for reasons unknown to even myself, I'd give him another year. Soz. We attack with 3 players. We sit too deep. These are tactical decisions from the manager. Irrespective of the summer, we'll STILL play shit, uninspiring football. We did well last season despite Pardew, not because of him. We ended up with a front 3 of Ba, Ben Arfa and Cisse and it worked well. We still only attacked with 3 players, but they were 3 very direct forward players and they offered enough threat to the opposition that we got a few goals. Now we've lost Ba, Ben Arfa has missed nearly all the season and teams know what we're about and how we'll play. Also, loads of other teams underperformed last season and allowed us to sneak in. We can't be so utterly reliant on 3 players for any success whatsoever because when something goes wrong (Ba sold, Ben Arfa injured) we're fucked, as this season shows. Our system is rubbish, it relies on exceptional individuals performing moments of magic. Spot on. Our lack of direction and movement just screams poor coaching. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Does anyone here doubt that Di Canio is going to do far more for Sunderland's game than Pardew is capable of doing for us? If Pardew stays then the humiliation we faced to day will only escalate. We've just lost 3-0 at home to the team that were going down according to the bookies. They've replaced a negative manager who was holding them back and they've just pissed all over us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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