NG32 Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 I dont think any nufc fans expect to steamroller liverpool....what fans want to see is grit and determination not to lose and to grab AT LEAST a point....go out and prove we are not really this shit...shows us! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 We are at home to not the greatest of Liverpool teams, we should at least expect our side to give it a go for the whole match within reason, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 We are at home to not the greatest of Liverpool teams, we should at least expect our side to give it a go for the whole match within reason, We should be positive from the start and get at them. Pardew has basically came out and said we will be the the opposite, maybe Douglas or Ryder could have told him that Suarez wont be playing. He seems to think they are full strength and in with a shot of the Champions League or something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 ffs. Just go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 We are at home to not the greatest of Liverpool teams, we should at least expect our side to give it a go for the whole match within reason, We should be positive from the start and get at them. Pardew has basically came out and said we will be the the opposite, maybe Douglas or Ryder could have told him that Suarez wont be playing. He seems to think they are full strength and in with a shot of the Champions League or something. Agreed. It's depressing stuff and no wonder why fans are just moaning on at the moment. It's classic stuff to lower expectations, but that won't wash with a large majority. God help us if he is being that negative behind the scenes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 They wouldn't be far ahead of us without Suarez, he carries the other ten on his fucking back, even then they're barely above mid table. Make no mistake, we should be winning this game at home. No more fucking excuses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 Proof will be in the performance, unfortunately it too often runs identical with the drivel he spouts pre-match. Chelsea (H) has got to be the benchmark for this one. Get at them, no excuses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 Proof will be in the performance, unfortunately it too often runs identical with the drivel he spouts pre-match. Chelsea (H) has got to be the benchmark for this one. Get at them, no excuses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 Proof will be in the performance, unfortunately it too often runs identical with the drivel he spouts pre-match. Chelsea (H) has got to be the benchmark for this one. Get at them, no excuses. Yep, unfortunately. Can't remember what he said pre-Chelsea, but that performance bucked the trend. I'm not too comfortable saying we 'should' beat Liverpool, like. However, a performance where we at least try to is essential. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dontooner Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 The football we play is horrible and we have to put up with the negatives comments from this asshole. Why say such self defeating things before a match?? It must be to lower expectations so when we lose, he cushioned it and if we win, it becomes a great achievement of sorts. He would pull out his award winning punches in the air , never seen them so rehearse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumpy Gunt Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 The worst part of it for me is knowing how games are going to pan out, against west brom, going in to half time 1-0 up, you knew the second half would be a disgrace, i know being on the other side of the world means we miss out on the atmosphere, but it just doesn't feel like his days are numbered either sadly. If he was going it would have been on the back of the FA Cup defeat in the midst of a 9 losses in 11 games run of results. Just hope Ashley has seen enough and that his investment in players has been wasted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 Proof will be in the performance, unfortunately it too often runs identical with the drivel he spouts pre-match. Chelsea (H) has got to be the benchmark for this one. Get at them, no excuses. Yep, unfortunately. Can't remember what he said pre-Chelsea, but that performance bucked the trend. I'm not too comfortable saying we 'should' beat Liverpool, like. However, a performance where we at least try to is essential. Definitely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 Had enough of this fraud, just get him out of our club now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 Don't really understand the word 'fraud' in relation to Pardew, seems a particularly personal and vicious insult for a football manager. You think he's shite, that's totally fair, but I don't get this angle at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 He thinks he's a decent football manager, and wants to talk like one, but he really isn't. To be honest, not a lot of thought was put into that post or the wording, could just as well have been 'cunt', 'twat' or 'useless fucking waster'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 Don't really understand the word 'fraud' in relation to Pardew, seems a particularly personal and vicious insult for a football manager. You think he's s****, that's totally fair, but I don't get this angle at all. He talks about another reality all the time. I'd call him a revisionist more than fraud, but the way he portrays our season, performances and his own surroundings is so far away from what the rest of us experience every weekend. For all his talk of controlling possession etc. last summer (especially remember him talking about how he wanted to implement ideas from Spain after the Euro's), it's just complete bollocks when we then top the charts for most long balls in Europe's top five leagues. That's where the "fraud" ephitet derives from. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 The more he talks the less confident I get about getting a result against Liverpool. No wonder his teams always look like they are bricking it after his half time team talks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 It's actually really obvious why someone would use the word "fraud" like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 It's actually really obvious why someone would use the word "fraud" like. Sorry for trying to have some discussion, maybe the forum should just be endless disconnected statements that everyone assumes the response to. It would be easier I suppose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 It's actually really obvious why someone would use the word "fraud" like. Sorry for trying to have some discussion, maybe the forum should just be endless disconnected statements that everyone assumes the response to. It would be easier I suppose. Read the quotes from Cabaye when he signed for the type of football that Pardew said we'd be playing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hobshobs Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 I'm thinking of dropping it altogether which for me only means not watching the majority of games on TV and my laptop and actually being in attendance for 5-10 of them. However I know people who can't be arsed with their season tickets anymore, others who have had the joy sucked out of it for them and are sick of pointless away trips. This is the situation we're in. Football isn't fun anymore and it's this daft c***'s fault. This cycle comes and goes with people; some come back to being regular attendees/watchers, some drift off into other interests in their life and only read the scores in the paper. The same thing was written a thousand times after the Keegan fiasco, the 'novelty' of winning every other week in the Championship brought some people back/attracted others. The same thing was written a thousand times after Hughton was sacked and Pardew appointed/Carroll sold, the novelty of the 5th placed finish brought some people back/attracted others. Don't suppose it's much fun to feel so apathetic about a club you feel you're emotionally and intellectually invested in but perhaps you'll be brought back in the not too distant future. Great points Stu. To add to that though, the home crowds would be nowhere near what they are now if it wasn't for the large family section filling up many seats. These cheaper family options are what's keeping the gates up. Honestly and truthfully, our matchday group are so fed up with watching this drivel week in, week out. We really are to a man. I've never really been one for chasing a manager out, but these performances, given the squad we have, are easily the worst I've ever seen in many years following the team. The fans are fed up, the players obviously don't believe in what they are asking them to do, you don't looked forward to the match at all. Home games are slightly better but is there actually any point in going to away games? I'm on a rant now, but have you seen what he has Steven Taylor doing in front of the opposition goalkeeper when he's trying to line up his wall. It's plain classless, what you'd expect to see in the local park when two pub teams are playing. Please just get rid off him. Giving him a few months at the start of next season means we'll be playing catch up from October / November. GET RID! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 What is happening now/ or has been happening all season, was what we all expected from the start of his reign, it has just taken longer than expected, but it was always coming. Hopefully he can scrape enough points to keep us up, then Ashley does the right thing and gets rid, and brings someone in to really take us forward. Everything is pretty much in place for it other than the manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 It's actually really obvious why someone would use the word "fraud" like. Sorry for trying to have some discussion, maybe the forum should just be endless disconnected statements that everyone assumes the response to. It would be easier I suppose. I find it strange that you now want a discussion in the thread that you constantly claim to detest? I'm sure you can see why anyone would have been thrown slightly by that. Anyway "A person or thing intended to deceive others, typically by unjustifiably claiming or being credited with accomplishments or qualities.", I'm sure you can see why many would would associate that with Pardew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 That recent interview is terrible Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 It's actually really obvious why someone would use the word "fraud" like. Sorry for trying to have some discussion, maybe the forum should just be endless disconnected statements that everyone assumes the response to. It would be easier I suppose. I find it strange that you now want a discussion in the thread that you constantly claim to detest? I'm sure you can see why anyone would have been thrown slightly by that. Anyway "A person or thing intended to deceive others, typically by unjustifiably claiming or being credited with accomplishments or qualities.", I'm sure you can see why many would would associate that with Pardew. I don't constantly claim to detest it at all, I dislike it when the debate degenerates, something that I was actively trying to prevent by asking a question. The definition is exactly why I don't agree with the word fraud. He may be a bit arrogant at times, and the things he is doing are definitely not working at the moment, but I don't think it justifies saying he is trying to deceive people. He bends the truth and says things for PR reasons just like every football manager, obviously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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