Village Idiot Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Some of our players thought he was so advanced/had such a great footballing brain that they didn't understand his level of play sometimes and what he was going to create. Aye he was a different wave length to those around him.... when ever i watched Ginola after he left us for the likes of Spurs and Villa etc etc i got the same feeling like they didn't have a clue what he was going to do. Indeed, Kluivert's most salient talent as a footballer was his creativity. In his prime he'd create as many goals as he'd score, and one of the most enjoyable things was seeing the balls he'd come up with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maybe_next_year Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Some of our players thought he was so advanced/had such a great footballing brain that they didn't understand his level of play sometimes and what he was going to create. sometimes i think we have this problem with Hatem. a lot of the time when he gets the ball the rest of our team don't know what to do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Kluivert murdered us twice playing for Barca; he got a deserved ovation when he was subbed at SJP. I agree that he'd lost the passion when he signed for us and believe that the reaction he'd received from our crowd played a part in his signing. As a player he was fantastic when in the mood. Consistency wasn't his strong point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 For a player to look disinterested, unfit and lazy and for me to still like them in a Newcastle shirt is quite an achievement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Kluivert murdered us twice playing for Barca; he got a deserved ovation when he was subbed at SJP. I agree that he'd lost the passion when he signed for us and believe that the reaction he'd received from our crowd played a part in his signing. As a player he was fantastic when in the mood. Consistency wasn't his strong point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Remember being over the moon watching Sky News, Kluivert was interviewed outside of the stadium. Feels like yesterday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Oh this one brings back some memories man. I remember the day we signed him going mental. He was probably one of my favorite players outside of Shearer at the time. I remember Sir Bobby saying how massive of a signing he was for our club, and that at the age we signed him at - and the potential he still had - could prove to be one of the most important signings we've ever had. I was just in awe at the time, thinking - go on, our Big Al will retire and Bellers & PK would take on the mantle and propel us forward. I mean the rest after that was history.... But his injuries and fitness always seemed to rub many the wrong way, I still can't believe at times we had this guy playing up front with Alan Shearer and Bellamy and we had that tit Souness managing the club. On his day, he was legendary, the things he could do with the ball...just wish we had gotten to see him play for us longer, and hungrier? I don't know. I'll always rate him as one of the bests I've ever seen, and I never look at his period with us other than we were fortunate to have him with us and wish it could have been better for him and us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matta Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 The Barcelona Kluivert was brilliant. Also liked him here, except he seemed very unfit. Would have liked to see more of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 A very, very good player but never world class or up there with the best strikers of this generation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Probably the best back to goal striker I've saw in my lifetime. His touch and link up play was phenomenal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Probably the best back to goal striker I've saw in my lifetime. His touch and link up play was phenomenal. Viduka was as good imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Was good for us with Bellamy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Probably the best back to goal striker I've saw in my lifetime. His touch and link up play was phenomenal. Viduka was as good imo. No chance. And Viduka was bloody brilliant at it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Shares the exact same birth-date as van Nistelrooy. Remember playing FM and catching onto that. Pretty much an early / late bloomer + early / late career peak when you put them side by side. Record goalscorer for Holland beating the likes of Cruyff and van Basten and still is. Surprising with the number of striking greats that Holland produces that 40 goals is the record. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Shares the exact same birth-date as van Nistelrooy. Remember playing FM and catching onto that. Pretty much an early / late bloomer + early / late career peak when you put them side by side. Record goalscorer for Holland beating the likes of Cruyff and van Basten and still is. Surprising with the number of striking greats that Holland produces that 40 goals is the record. Huntelaar is closing in. A shame really. I mean, I like him but he's not fit to lace the boots of many others they've had. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Shares the exact same birth-date as van Nistelrooy. Remember playing FM and catching onto that. Pretty much an early / late bloomer + early / late career peak when you put them side by side. Record goalscorer for Holland beating the likes of Cruyff and van Basten and still is. Surprising with the number of striking greats that Holland produces that 40 goals is the record. TBF van Basten retired early and Cruyff wasn't a striker. Surprised he is a ahead of RvN though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 RvN started his international career late and had a long-term injury at PSV. That probably affected his international record. Also, I believe at that time the NL national team had a Ajax bias, rightfully or not, so Kluivert was pretty much first choice. Back then their regular starting XI was a Ajax core, players like van der Sar, the de Boer bros, Seedorf, Davids, Overmars, Kluivert. Besides Huntelaar with 34 goals in 59 games, the next closest is van Persie with 31 in 71. RvP without doubt the better player and imo with a higher chance of breaking that record, but I'll so hate it if that twut becomes their leading goalscorer of all time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Was my favourite player of all time. Couldn't believe it when he signed for us. Sexy goal against Palace but never really got a chance here, under Robson it would have been different. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Pre-2004, Kluivert was one of the best strikers in the world, no doubt about that. His spell here was rather forgettable mind and that has somewhat soured my opinion of the man (that and GHoeberX). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Pre-2004, Kluivert was one of the best strikers in the world, no doubt about that. His spell here was rather forgettable mind and that has somewhat soured my opinion of the man (that and GHoeberX). Tell me one player that came out with any credit from the 04/05 season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Under the circumstances I thought he was alright for us personally. Probably more of a #10 but played the majority of his career as a creative #9. Not amongst the very best of his generation but a fine player nonetheless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Pre-2004, Kluivert was one of the best strikers in the world, no doubt about that. His spell here was rather forgettable mind and that has somewhat soured my opinion of the man (that and GHoeberX). Tell me one player that came out with any credit from the 04/05 season? Laurent Robert, for his unique way of saying goodbye Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Apologies for truncating Kluivert's limelight (he wouldn't like that) somewhat preamaturely, but tonight I'm interested in centre-backs. How does Tony Adams do against the test of time? http://www.footballfancast.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Tony-Adams-300x225.jpg Which centre-backs around now are better than him, if any? I think there's a real shortage of top quality centre-backs atm, though perhaps the reputation/legend of centre-backs tend to grow as their careers end. Much like a legend-to-be goalkeeper is capable of dropping a clanger and incurring laughter now, I think maybe CBs in the era they play might not be appreciated. I'm not sure who will be the next Maldini/Cannavaro/Hierro/Puyol/Desailly/Stam etc though. Anyway, Adams... I vaguely recall Shearer saying he disliked playing him the most, which is quite the compliment really. Really strong and physical but definitely not from the 'Jamie Carragher-bruiser' style of defenders either - he was very, very intelligent and decent technically too. [/iMO] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Not sure you could really compare him to centrebacks today, since forwards have changed, and centrebacks have adapted to that. Gone are the days of the Alan Shearer forwards - most of the top forwards now are under 6', very technical, agile, great balance, very mobile, drop between the lines and the channels. It'd be interesting to find clips of Adams against Zola, for example. Perhaps the closest today, strangely, would be Per Mertesacker (who had the highest amount of accurate passes/forward passes out of all Premier League Centrebacks last season - Coloccini was 3rd). HOWEVER... in his day he was fantastic, and personally I under-rated him at the time. He wasn't just a good defender, he was a great leader and organiser. Certainly benefited from the arrival of Arsene Wenger too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 I'm not sure you can pigeonhole Shearer like that. In his prime he was almost the complete forward. As for Adams, I remember him being great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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