Ketsbaia Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Really thought today would be the day it worked Why, dude? Williamson hasn't turned into John Terry. I was blinded by our history of unusual derby scorers - Dabizas, O'Brien, Chopra, Luque, Raylor, Domi etc. Guess you can't polish a turd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Really thought today would be the day it worked Why, dude? Williamson hasn't turned into John Terry. I was blinded by our history of unusual derby scorers - Dabizas, O'Brien, Chopra, Luque, Raylor, Domi etc. Guess you can't polish a turd. It'll work in April. Watch this space! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Have to give Pardew credit where it's due (even if it was a little overdue on his part!) for getting them to try something different on set plays. Even if some of routines are a little out-there it's fine - better than the predictability of punting at Williamson's noggin every time. All for mixing it up with a few routines involving Colo/Cabs on the edge of the box, some short corners to HBA and some punts at Williamson/Colo/Ba/Shola on the edge of the 6-yard box. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 I agree, if we stop doing it every damn time I reckon it may work once or twice, it's the predictability of it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Williamson really isn't the problem with this.... The problem is not winning the 2nd ball, Williamson usually wins the first ball and knocks the header down into an area. The problem with that is that no one seems to be gambling and getting on the end of that knock down and the other team gets to it first. If we able to get on to the knock down more often i.e. the second ball then we would probably have more success. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Williamson rarely ever wins the first ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Williamson rarely ever wins the first ball. I need an eye test then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 If we continue hitting the first man, perhaps we should have someone near the first man to either challenge or flick back... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 I'd say he wins about 50% of challenges, just his header is usually fucking shite and more often than not goes out for a goal kick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Crouch should be example enough that height doesn't necessarily equate to being a good with your head. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 He wins a fair few IMO, just always under enough pressure not to do anything useful with it. If we do it, I suggest a Mighty Ducks approach. Get some of our players shielding him/running alongside him. At least fucking near him, seeing as he is never in a position to generate much power off the first ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 he wins it, but at the same time fouls his marker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 he wins it, but at the same time fouls his marker. Oh yeah. This. This is actually much more accurate than what I said. Especially in Europe where his presence alone past the halfway line is an infringement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 he wins it, but at the same time fouls his marker. Oh yeah. This. This is actually much more accurate than what I said. Especially in Europe where his presence alone past the halfway line is an infringement. Some of the decisions against him in Europe were amazing, couldn't help but laugh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 he wins it, but at the same time fouls his marker. Oh yeah. This. This is actually much more accurate than what I said. Especially in Europe where his presence alone past the halfway line is an infringement. Some of the decisions against him in Europe were amazing, couldn't help but laugh Has Willo ever played outside of europe? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Nockmaar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Williamson really isn't the problem with this.... The problem is not winning the 2nd ball, Williamson usually wins the first ball and knocks the header down into an area. The problem with that is that no one seems to be gambling and getting on the end of that knock down and the other team gets to it first. If we able to get on to the knock down more often i.e. the second ball then we would probably have more success. Yeah, I agree with this. Williamson, whatever his other limitations, does win a good percentage of those balls. It would help if we had a midfielder like Speed who can attack the box and get on the end of those kind of chances. The nearest equivilent is Gosling, but so far he's been a disappointment overall. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 At least HBA is going short for every corner now, it's progress. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 At least HBA is going short for every corner now, it's progress. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexthegreat Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Was exciting to see a Shola header on target from one of our corners. Unfortunately, shortly after that the best chance of the 1st half for Lukaku also came from one of our corners. The best set-piece related moment in ages was Colo absolutely launching himself at a cross in the penalty area in around the 86th minute. A bit more of that from our players please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 We did seem a little more threatening from our corners / set pieces on Sunday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATB Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 It´s sad when you get exited when someone else besides of Willo gets the ball at a free kick or a corner :'( I agree though. If we can continue and do what we did last game, then maybe we will see some goals soon... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zach Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 How hard is it to just whip it in to an area and attack the ball. If we are going to do the same thing every other set piece then I wish we just did that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 How hard is it to just whip it in to an area and attack the ball. If we are going to do the same thing every other set piece then I wish we just did that. Ask Yohan, Pards, Dekka & the Fatman. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 How hard is it to just whip it in to an area and attack the ball. If we are going to do the same thing every other set piece then I wish we just did that. Ask Yohan, Pards, Dekka & the Fatman. You can blame Dekka and Ashley for a lot of things but I don't think they have much input on our set piece routines. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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