Swissmag Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 No matter people want him out or not, i still can't understand that some people don't get it, that we've been bad all season, even before all our current injuries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Is anyone disputing we've been bad? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Routledge is flourishing elswhere however. Aye, Pardew shamefully booted him out as quick as he could. Shamefully? Love a bit of melodrama this early in the day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Whatever credit Pardew gained with me he threw it all away with that "be thankful to Mike" stuff after the transfer window. That reminded me he was one of them and he always would be. Pointless to think of it in those terms. He has to work with Ashley, and he can't hammer him publicly. He can choose to say nothing like Hughton did but his ego won't allow it. He's currently making rather obvious digs at Ashley now he's under pressure btw. “We are a club in this division with a very high wage bill, and that is something of which we have all been aware… You have an owner who is still having to put money into the club, and that is reassuring.” Just saying, like. From what I can tell, that's from just after we'd signed Simpson, Best, Routledge, Williamson, Hall and Van Aanholt. We were all grateful for those signings (at the time ) weren't we? Oh the halcyon days of 4 recognised centre backs how I miss you so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Routledge is flourishing elswhere however. Aye, Pardew shamefully booted him out as quick as he could. Shamefully? Love a bit of melodrama this early in the day. I know, as if Routledge was ever considered the answer to anything. I would have him back now mind! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 It's not quite shameful but it's a bit galling when we're stuck with Obertan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 It's not quite shameful but it's a bit galling when we're stuck with Obertan. Or Gaul-ing even? since hes french lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Routledge is flourishing elswhere however. Aye, Pardew shamefully booted him out as quick as he could. Shamefully? Love a bit of melodrama this early in the day. "I mean, was Wayne gonna be a long term first team player for us? and I don’t think he was.” "we have to get better than Wayne and that’s what we’re gonna aim to do.” Pardew had only been here 6 weeks at this point so was it necessary to be so harsh publicly about a decent player who seemed a nice lad? And has he ever been as scathing publicly about any other of our players for no reason? Played 9, scored 4 and made 3 this season btw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Routledge is flourishing elswhere however. I always thought Routledge wasn't really a big club player, and that might still be the case. I do remember Wullie mentioning he had a good cross on him and scored the odd goal which were both true. Maybe he just needed someone who believed in him? In Obertan, his replacement, we've got someone who can't cross, shoot and has a heart even smaller than Routledge so I'm not sure there's been a good call on that one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 I know, as if Routledge was ever considered the answer to anything. I would have him back now mind! Routledge was written off far too early by some, the most important to write him off was Pardew who didn't give him a chance. I’m pleased for Routledge that he seems to have settled into a club and is doing well. It’s just a pity that we didn’t have him as an option as we’ll have brought in next to nothing for him and his replacement has been shit most of the time he’s been on the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Routledge is flourishing elswhere however. Aye, Pardew shamefully booted him out as quick as he could. Shamefully? Love a bit of melodrama this early in the day. "I mean, was Wayne gonna be a long term first team player for us? and I don’t think he was.” "we have to get better than Wayne and that’s what we’re gonna aim to do.” Pardew had only been here 6 weeks at this point so was it necessary to be so harsh publicly about a decent player who seemed a nice lad? And has he ever been as scathing publicly about any other of our players for no reason? Played 9, scored 4 and made 3 this season btw Those comments from Pardew are all well and good, IF you go out and buy someone who is obviously much better. But to bring in Obertan, who is at best on the same level but really hasn't even demonstrated that, is fucking idiotic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 He seems to have a habit of doing that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Only 22% don't want him fired? That's incredible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Only 22% don't want him fired? That's incredible. I guess 'give him till the end of the season' is effectivley no too, so its more like 40% I suppose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Is that not implying they want him sacked at the end of the season? If it's 'wait and see how he does' it's a no, basically. And even still, 40%? Crazy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Is that not implying they want him sacked at the end of the season? If it's 'wait and see how he does' it's a no, basically. And even still, 40%? Crazy. Ah right, took it as 'let him have the reat of the season to see how we do' type of thing. But yeah, I agree, even at 40% is mental. That might change after the Wigan game mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
henke Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 He'll turn it round, no doubt at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EthiGeordie Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Give him a time guys. I know he was at fault to go along with DL and MA idea of not to strengthen but he deserve time to learn his mistake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Give him a time guys. I know he was at fault to go along with DL and MA idea of not to strengthen but he deserve time to learn his mistake. He's already learned them, he doesn't need time for that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/next-manager-to-leave-post As short as 8/1 at time of posting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 I barely know anyone outside this forum who wants him sacked. Last years manager of the year loses four games and we've started calling for his head? Embarrasing IMO. The critisisms are fine and of course I have my doubts but to call for his head is absolute lunacy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 I barely know anyone outside this forum who wants him sacked. Last years manager of the year loses four games and we've started calling for his head? Embarrasing IMO. The critisisms are fine and of course I have my doubts but to call for his head is absolute lunacy. Exactly. You could argue that other fans don't know how bad we've been, but looking at the bigger picture its far too early to be thinking about sacking him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hydeous Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Would be an interesting social experiment to keep track of this poll before every game and reset it after. fwiw, I voted to give him till the end of the season (to turn it around). If there are no signs of improvements, I'd like to see someone else in. If there are and Pards manages to get this team playing consistently good football (unlike last season where we were dire at times but picked up points) then he has something to work towards next season. It's okay if we don't pick up enough points to get to the dizzy heights of top 5, but we've got to see progress in terms of the football we're playing. Good signs in the last game, if we can keep this philosophy, get our best players back on the pitch, we're going to be climbing back into the top 8 by Jan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Would be an interesting social experiment to keep track of this poll before every game and reset it after. fwiw, I voted to give him till the end of the season (to turn it around). If there are no signs of improvements, I'd like to see someone else in. If there are and Pards manages to get this team playing consistently good football (unlike last season where we were dire at times but picked up points) then he has something to work towards next season. It's okay if we don't pick up enough points to get to the dizzy heights of top 5, but we've got to see progress in terms of the football we're playing. Good signs in the last game, if we can keep this philosophy, get our best players back on the pitch, we're going to be climbing back into the top 8 by Jan. "If there's no signs of improvement"...We'll be relegated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATB Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 I don´t like Pardews view at football and that´s why I wan´t him to go no matter what. He has been here 2 years and we are still not playing any better than when he came, we just have different types of players. Ashley is a idiot when it comes to football and dosen´t care about the clubs results. That, and that it´s hard to get a good manager now, means that I´m willing to give him more time to save us from the relegation. But if we still are in real danger come a few more months from now, he just have to go. But as I said earlier, no matter what, I would sack him at the end of the season with the argument "thanks Pardew, but we feel that you have taken us so far you can..." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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