sempuki Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Lose to Wigan and I think there is a strong chance he will be gone. Purely because it could be our last realistic chance at a win for some time. He will be struggling to keep the crowd on his side if we lose again. I don't want him to go yet as it is better the Devil you know with Ashley. He really needs to back him in January if he is still here though. Definitely need at least a centre half and a creative outlet and probably two more on top of that. We have really cocked up what we had last season and players will inevitably want to leave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 It's got to the stage now that I think the only way we will hold on to the likes of Cabaye, Ben Arfa and Cisse is if we get a new manager in - one that lets them play football. Pardew only has himself to blame. It's quite clear that priority number one is defensive shape, which would be fair enough if there was freedom in possession or some kind of attacking countering plan to go with it. (Other than kick it long quickly). When we concede there is no answer because all the team knows is keep shape, be hard to score against. Too late they scored, what do we do now? Our good players, and we do have quite a few, have their abilities shackled by the negative mindset of the manager. A manager who told some of them what an expansive passing game they would be playing. A win at stoke today would have been a thin veneer of paper over a gaping wound. Hope Ashley is paying attention. Good post, although a win today would have been very useful for the points and at least to base some sort of come back for form overall. The way in which we could never get a foothold in this game and just invited Stoke to keep chipping away until we cracked was disgusting. Pardew should have looked to Bigi and switched to 4-5-1 to hold them off for the last 30 mins but instead he did nothing and watched as Stoke got closer and closer to scoring. I thought the Kenwyne Jones header would have woke us up but no. Instead we allowed that pressure to crack at our weak point in defence and then randomly chucked on players to salvage the game by bringing off the ones that actually gave us a chance in winning it. Our transfer blueprint (Apparently we have one) is totally misaligned with how Pardew seems to want us to play, he wants us to hoof it and be very direct yet we get cultured players like Anita, Ben Arfa, Cabaye, Marveux etc, it's totally against the grain and quite frankly baffling that we have these players and decide to bypass them for >70% of every game. I just don't get it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Much as I hate his smug face I wouldn't be opposed to Di Matteo. He has shown himself to be a good attacking coach and has something to prove after being sacked by Chelsea. Oh who am I kidding? It will be someone like Howard Wilkinson Come to think of it, I actually wouldn't mind Di Matteo at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Di Matteo actually only won 2 of his 18 games at West Brom btw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Martinez, if we could get him, unlikey as Dave Whelan hates Ashley more than we do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dr_Delirium Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 This mess has to cleaned by buying some new (decent) players, not by sacking the manager! This should've been done in the summer... Pardew could have done a few things better but the board is to blame for this crap season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Who are people expecting to replace him at this point if he gets sacked? Would like Martinez but in truth it needs to be a foreign coach type that can get us playing a more european game. I don't want anymore British managers because they never seem to have the nous to play good football (Except for a few like Fergie and Rednapp) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 I sadly predict mark hughes. Holy fucking shit. We would and all. Sacking Pardew now would be pointless, who the hell would we get Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Who are people expecting to replace him at this point if he gets sacked? Would like Martinez but in truth it needs to be a foreign coach type that can get us playing a more european game. I don't want anymore British managers because they never seem to have the nous to play good football (Except for a few like Fergie and Rednapp) Martinez is English......wow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Di Matteo actually only won 2 of his 18 games at West Brom btw. Impressive to get promoted with that record though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 We'll probably replace him with some desperate cheap English has-been. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbers Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Much as I hate his smug face I wouldn't be opposed to Di Matteo. He has shown himself to be a good attacking coach and has something to prove after being sacked by Chelsea. Oh who am I kidding? It will be someone like Howard Wilkinson Come to think of it, I actually wouldn't mind Di Matteo at all. Aye did well at West Brom...hes done nowt but inherit a decent Chelsea team man, i could have done that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 I really don't wanna sack him just because the new manager would be Mark Hughes. Give Pardew money in January and l'm sure we'll be fine. Go for the cups. Then we can sack him in the summer if there's need for it and get a proper replacement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Who are people expecting to replace him at this point if he gets sacked? Would like Martinez but in truth it needs to be a foreign coach type that can get us playing a more european game. I don't want anymore British managers because they never seem to have the nous to play good football (Except for a few like Fergie and Rednapp) Martinez is English......wow Ha, na didn't mean it like that, bad grammar, I meant Martinez or another foreign coach Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shush Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 This mess has to cleaned by buying some new (decent) players, not by sacking the manager! This should've been done in the summer... Pardew could have done a few things better but the board is to blame for this crap season. Selling 3 or 4 bad players to bring in crucial replacements in January is a non-starter. I don't actually think the tools are to blame here. It's' the 'Tool' in charge of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 We'll probably replace him with some desperate cheap English has-been. http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/nejournal/mar2011/5/9/steve-bruce-image-3-49349881.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 I'd have Martinez like a shot, but he's too decent to walk out on Wigan mid season I suspect Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 We'll probably replace him with some desperate cheap English has-been. http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/nejournal/mar2011/5/9/steve-bruce-image-3-49349881.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Who are people expecting to replace him at this point if he gets sacked? Would like Martinez but in truth it needs to be a foreign coach type that can get us playing a more european game. I don't want anymore British managers because they never seem to have the nous to play good football (Except for a few like Fergie and Rednapp) Martinez is English......wow Ha, na didn't mean it like that, bad grammar, I meant Martinez or another foreign coach I know what he meant mate If it isn't Martinez then i'm with you, a foreign coach to bring decent football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MW Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 he wont get sacked any time soon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Steve Clarke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 We'll probably replace him with some desperate cheap English has-been. http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/nejournal/mar2011/5/9/steve-bruce-image-3-49349881.jpg It's fate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 We'll probably replace him with some desperate cheap English has-been. Exactly. No point in sacking Pardew unless we are going to bring in an intelligent manager who preaches possession football. In the meantime might as well keep this tosspot and hope the players work it out themselves like last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Shearer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Don't think he'd want to move atm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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