AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 I agree, just think he's good enough to be playing games for Chelsea recently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Strangest thing is why Chelsea don't play him more really. These clubs like Chelsea hog players, especially young players and keep them away from the competition. The loan rules need changing as it impedes a sense of fair play. Chelsea had 15 players or summink out on loan a couple of years back. They've got 30+ players out on loan right now. PL is a joke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 There's Italian clubs who loan out 50 plus man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Yeah but Serie A is completely bent. From refs to owners to syndicates to the Italian mafia. The whole league is corrupt top to bottom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gomez Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Is James Troisi still a Juventus player? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Is James Troisi still a Juventus player? On loan to Al-Ittihad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
henke Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Why would Chelsea bin Remy, who is proven in the PL. If a bit of a bell end. To replace him with Lacazette, who is unproven? Does that make any sense at all to anyone? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 There's this long term plan / huge age gap I'd imagine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
henke Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 I wouldn't say five years is huge but I can see the long term plan idea. However if Lacazette goes there he's gonna spend two years playing cup games then sold for a loss to one of these new middle class clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 I don't blame players like Bony & Remy in their mid 20s chancing their arm at making it at one of the bigger clubs. The younger ones who go in their teens/early 20s (Sinclair, Rodwell, etc) I do though. I agree with the likes of Bony and Remy, but I can also understand the likes of Sinclair being unable to resist the opportunity. No-one wants to spend their career thinking of what might have been. But looking at the even younger age range, ie at Chelsea and Man City's youth systems, it baffles me a bit that they're able to recruit a lot of talented young teenagers. If I was advising a young player, I'd tell them not to touch those clubs with a barge pole. No matter how good the coaching, nobody is making it through the ranks there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TooonDoom Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 I don't blame players like Bony & Remy in their mid 20s chancing their arm at making it at one of the bigger clubs. The younger ones who go in their teens/early 20s (Sinclair, Rodwell, etc) I do though. I agree with the likes of Bony and Remy, but I can also understand the likes of Sinclair being unable to resist the opportunity. No-one wants to spend their career thinking of what might have been. But looking at the even younger age range, ie at Chelsea and Man City's youth systems, it baffles me a bit that they're able to recruit a lot of talented young teenagers. If I was advising a young player, I'd tell them not to touch those clubs with a barge pole. No matter how good the coaching, nobody is making it through the ranks there. Every player in the premier league has beat the odd to get there. They must have had the mentality to back themselves and to graft. Given they have that mentality it would be odd to stop backing themselves at the last hurdle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Their advisers think only of the money. Really they shoudl have a smart enough brain to make better choices, footballing wise. Let's be honest, if someone was throwing money at you, it would be hard to resist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 When players get into their late 20's their only thinking of the money. Most strikers careers are over at 33. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Only an idiot would turn down Chelsea like. The young kids it's a different issue. At youth level it's okay but when it gets to late teens it's best to move and get regular football. There's only a handful of English clubs I'd take my son to before a Chelsea or Man Utd academy wise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 The top pros all have huge egos as well so they'd back themselves to break into the first team and hold down a starting place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 They get to live in London. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 I don't blame players like Bony & Remy in their mid 20s chancing their arm at making it at one of the bigger clubs. The younger ones who go in their teens/early 20s (Sinclair, Rodwell, etc) I do though. I agree with the likes of Bony and Remy, but I can also understand the likes of Sinclair being unable to resist the opportunity. No-one wants to spend their career thinking of what might have been. But looking at the even younger age range, ie at Chelsea and Man City's youth systems, it baffles me a bit that they're able to recruit a lot of talented young teenagers. If I was advising a young player, I'd tell them not to touch those clubs with a barge pole. No matter how good the coaching, nobody is making it through the ranks there. This isn't a dig at you, Cronky, but I just don't get arguments like this. It's like, in spite of everything, people are oblivious to the fact that money is absolutely everything. It's pointless rationalising anything when that fact is an umbrella over everything to do with the modern game (the top leagues, anyway). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 If money was everything the likes of Russia and China would have much better leagues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaehyun Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Only an idiot would turn down Chelsea like. The young kids it's a different issue. At youth level it's okay but when it gets to late teens it's best to move and get regular football. There's only a handful of English clubs I'd take my son to before a Chelsea or Man Utd academy wise. Agreed, why not make use of the best coaching/development programs? As a young player, if you find yourself not being able to break through at a club like Chelsea or Man Utd, you can always get a loan out to a smaller club and make your breakthrough there, setting up a transfer for yourself. If you were in their shoes and you had an offer from the Chelsea Academy, you wouldn't reject them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 How many young players have been developed at Chelsea and made it to premiership standard? Compare that to say Southampton who regularly make success stories from their kids. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 If my kid had the choice I want him to join the like of Everton, Spurs, Southampton etc. Unless he was offered shit loads, in which case... show me the money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stal Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 How many young players have been developed at Chelsea and made it to premiership standard? Compare that to say Southampton who regularly make success stories from their kids. I agree with this and it makes me think that based on previous years/decades, how is it that our academy lot will never make a first team league appearance and drop down the leagues, have unsuccessful trials at Darlington and end up playing for pub teams? People mention not breaking into the manu or Chelsea first teams, but our lads seem to nosedive very quickly, without even a look in at the championship never mind the premier league. I realise this has somewhat derailed the Remy thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Southampton have arguably the best Academy in the country. That's #1 pick. But Everton or Chelsea isn't reliant on info available to the public imo. Too close. Palace have a lot of players in the top 2 levels of Rnglish football but you would imagine the facilities aren't great. I don't think we are doing THAT bad like. Not great. But Forster, Carroll, Lua Lua, Dummett, Saylor, Sammy all in the top two flights. Surely that's more than the likes of Chelsea or Sunderland? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 That's more to do with being desperate for players though isn't it? They aren't any good for the most part. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chicken little Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 The lack of biggish clubs in the area gives Southampton (or gave them at least, not sure how it works these days) a massive catchment area. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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