Jaehyun Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Only an idiot would turn down Chelsea like. The young kids it's a different issue. At youth level it's okay but when it gets to late teens it's best to move and get regular football. There's only a handful of English clubs I'd take my son to before a Chelsea or Man Utd academy wise. Agreed, why not make use of the best coaching/development programs? As a young player, if you find yourself not being able to break through at a club like Chelsea or Man Utd, you can always get a loan out to a smaller club and make your breakthrough there, setting up a transfer for yourself. If you were in their shoes and you had an offer from the Chelsea Academy, you wouldn't reject them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 How many young players have been developed at Chelsea and made it to premiership standard? Compare that to say Southampton who regularly make success stories from their kids. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 If my kid had the choice I want him to join the like of Everton, Spurs, Southampton etc. Unless he was offered shit loads, in which case... show me the money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stal Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 How many young players have been developed at Chelsea and made it to premiership standard? Compare that to say Southampton who regularly make success stories from their kids. I agree with this and it makes me think that based on previous years/decades, how is it that our academy lot will never make a first team league appearance and drop down the leagues, have unsuccessful trials at Darlington and end up playing for pub teams? People mention not breaking into the manu or Chelsea first teams, but our lads seem to nosedive very quickly, without even a look in at the championship never mind the premier league. I realise this has somewhat derailed the Remy thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Southampton have arguably the best Academy in the country. That's #1 pick. But Everton or Chelsea isn't reliant on info available to the public imo. Too close. Palace have a lot of players in the top 2 levels of Rnglish football but you would imagine the facilities aren't great. I don't think we are doing THAT bad like. Not great. But Forster, Carroll, Lua Lua, Dummett, Saylor, Sammy all in the top two flights. Surely that's more than the likes of Chelsea or Sunderland? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 That's more to do with being desperate for players though isn't it? They aren't any good for the most part. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chicken little Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 The lack of biggish clubs in the area gives Southampton (or gave them at least, not sure how it works these days) a massive catchment area. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Bailey Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 The lack of biggish clubs in the area gives Southampton (or gave them at least, not sure how it works these days) a massive catchment area. Ahem. That should be the case with us then? Yet we fail fucking miserably at it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 The lack of biggish clubs in the area gives Southampton (or gave them at least, not sure how it works these days) a massive catchment area. Don't forget Pardew's opinion that it was down to class and education with them being middle class and us being a working class area. http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/mar/28/alan-pardew-newcastle-education-southampton Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontenacity Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 The lack of biggish clubs in the area gives Southampton (or gave them at least, not sure how it works these days) a massive catchment area. Still very much the case these days, especially with Portsmouth in such a dire state. Bournemouth is now its only real rival across almost the entire South Coast, and Reading in parts of the Home Counties. School friends of mine were offered Southampton, Bournemouth and Reading trials - a real no brainer as Southampton has far better facilities, transport links etc. And they put academy players up in nice areas with agreements with good Sixth Form colleges. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chicken little Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 The lack of biggish clubs in the area gives Southampton (or gave them at least, not sure how it works these days) a massive catchment area. Ahem. That should be the case with us then? Yet we fail f***ing miserably at it. Well aye, quite goes without saying You could probably make a cracking XI out of players from the NE who we missed out on as kids... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 The only one I can think of who recently did anything from Chelsea academy is Jack Cork Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 One of the kids that won the Sky One show to get into the Chelsea Academy ended up at Hartlepool via Gateshead & Grimsby. Wonder where the winners of Soccastars are now? EDIT: Found one. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadj_Sadok_Bouziane However, due to visa problems, he was unable to travel to England and did not join Newcastle United.[2] Prior to the competition, he worked as a shepherd and said that he had never played organized football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Did we not research this at all back then? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohamed_El-Gabbas El-Gabbas unfortunately could not obtain a work permit and therefore was not able to sign a professional contract with Newcastle. As a result, El-Gabbas returned to his former Egyptian club Al-Masry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Prefer Remy over Berahino. We need to pay him as much as he wants (which would be a lot). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Tbf I really no nothing about Berahino but I'm confident that Remy would score goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Best we could hope for is a loan deal, if Chelsea sign another striker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Tbf I really no nothing about Berahino but I'm confident that Remy would score goals. I'm not after watching him today. Looks like he's spent the last six months on a Caribbean beach. Now I can understand why Chelsea might be willing to let him go out on loan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Tbh, neither have played a great deal of regular football over the past year. If we signed either they'd need a couple of games or so to find their stride and bed in. We need someone to hit the ground running if we've any chance of stopping up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Tbh, neither have played a great deal of regular football over the past year. If we signed either they'd need a couple of games or so to find their stride and bed in. We need someone to hit the ground running if we've any chance of stopping up. So who do you suggest? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Tbh, neither have played a great deal of regular football over the past year. If we signed either they'd need a couple of games or so to find their stride and bed in. We need someone to hit the ground running if we've any chance of stopping up. So who do you suggest? I don't have a fucking clue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 I think Remy's about the best we can hope for now. No £20m rated striker would touch us with a barge pole in our position and I suppose Remy would need to bang a few goals in to stand a chance of making Euro 2016 if nowt else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Tbh, neither have played a great deal of regular football over the past year. If we signed either they'd need a couple of games or so to find their stride and bed in. We need someone to hit the ground running if we've any chance of stopping up. So who do you suggest? I don't have a f***ing clue. Fair enough Not many players who are regulars at their clubs want to come to us now. Remy is probably the best we can get but i would love us to get Berahino. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Remy would make me a lot more happy about staying up, that's for sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Why would he ever want to sign for us? Must have much better options and he has already witnessed are shambles of a club once. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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