Guest taps01 Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Spurs. Plus Portsmouth and West Ham Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 So what's to stop this happening again? We do all the scouting,agree the fee with the club, agree terms with the player and fly him in for a medical only for QPR to offer more? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Qpr are going all out, fair play to Harry he has a way of getting his chairman to dish out the cash. Not sure Pompey fans think fair play to him like. Why not, it's not Harry's fault that Pompey's chairman is a complete idiot it's him that controls the cash ultimately. Your own post said he gets charman to dish out the cash. Obviously the Pompey chairman takes his share of the blame but so does sappy chops. Irresponsible c*** who's learnt nowt from the state Pompey's now in. Why does he need to learn anything from Pompey, not his club not his responsibility to manage chairman's finance. That's the chairman's job. Same at qpr, not his club why should he care. The media has gone all out on people like Wenger for not wanting to spend clubs cash. Should Wenger be praised instead? Harry job is to get the best players he can on the pitch permitted by his chairman, and get them to perform. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
morla84 Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 So what's to stop this happening again? We do all the scouting,agree the fee with the club, agree terms with the player and fly him in for a medical only for QPR to offer more? Fly them straight to Newcastle rather than London? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Move on Yeah it's getting old. We can come back to this one when Plan B and C have fizzled and died in two weeks time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 SSN transfer window gadgey.... Remy believes he's made the right move for "footballing reasons" f*** off. If he goes to QPR he has. We are playing diabolically and it was bound to catch up to us sooner or later recruitment wise. Like I said yesterday had we been top half like expected he'd have signed and not even thought about QPR. Money talks, and if they werent offering mad cash he'd come here, but if they were offering mad cash and we were looking good then he'd be here im absolutely sure of it. I was about to say this like. If you think that the style of football played hasn't had an impact on things then people are naive in the extreme. Sure the money will have got him interested, but the style of football played is a draw for these frenchies (i think Cabaye mentioned it just after we signed him), it would only take 10 mins of Harry filling his lugs with correct information about how we play hoofball and how flowing the football he played as spurs was and that might have sealed it. So yeah when you come down to it, we have two teams battling one another for relegation one offers more money and potentially better football and living in London, the other is a hoofball side with a few poorly used french internationals somewhere in the North. Why on earth would Remy believe anything Redknapp has to say about style of play ect? He'd believe him no more than he would Cabaye or Barton. No idea what the motivation is to try to convince yourself or others that this isn't 95% about the money, but it really is. QPR offer nothing over us outside of London, that's it. We're much better known and more respected in France, much better stadium and facilities, in a better position in the league and have more players he'd know. QPR have a crazy contract offer, no need to pretend otherwise. Read my comments. I don't doubt that money drove the deal, I'm just saying, that as footballing reasons have been mentioned in the press as part of this, it would only take a look at our season so far to realise that we are an awful footballing side, and that by and large Redknapp gets good players to play good football. Ok so the press may be making up lies to help the Harry PR show, or in fact, it could have been part of the reason for rejecting us... Did you expect anything else? Seriously, do you think Remy or anyone connected with him was going to say "I came here because you offered me more money"? No matter what the reason Remy is going to say its all about Football and the press are happy to report that because its Harry. I mean the reports we've seen are basically denying that money had any influence at all, obviously you don't believe that so why believe any of it? I have said a few times now that I think money had a huge role to play. I get your point about him not wanting to come out and say that he went for the best deal, but by the same token it is not unheard of for people to come out and say that though is it? (Ba anyone?) I do think that money obviously had a huge role to play, but I have also said that the way we play football at the moment may have impacted negatively on our offer. If the guy has said that footballing reasons is a factor, then perhaps it is? I'm sure some players are honest enough to admit it, Remy clearly isn't considering the claims coming from his camp that money had nothing to do with it. I see no reason to believe a word he says if he can't at least admit that money has been a major factor in his decision. I'm just saying that it is a good chance it is both the money and the offer of playing more attractive style of football not either or. We could speculate for quite some time on everything that could have had the tiniest influence on his decision. But neither of us know either way, its equally possible that playing style has nothing to do with it at all. Right, obviously there could be other things, being closer to home, the London factor, maybe a relegation clause, I just don't see why it couldn't possibly be both money (as mentioned by other press sources, Barton etc.) and style of football played (as mentioned by his reps). Obviously we are all speculating because it hurts, and I for one am not daft enough to believe everything that has been said in the press, but since playing style is out there and has been mentioned, I think it is worth discussing as a reason for his rejection. Well he had no interest what so ever in even knowing how QPR played before this new contract offer (not that they play great Football anyway) and the comments from his camp are quite obviously dishonest. You can discuss the possibility of playing style having a minimal effect on his decision if you like but I think a better discussion is do you really believe if we were playing better he'd have ignored this crazy contract offer? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Such a great day, me love football, exciting times! Good night and have a good sleep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Move on Yeah it's getting old. We can come back to this one when Plan B and C have fizzled and died in two weeks time. Speaking of getting old.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 So what's to stop this happening again? We do all the scouting,agree the fee with the club, agree terms with the player and fly him in for a medical only for QPR to offer more? Fly them straight to Newcastle rather than London? Its looking pretty likely that he and his agent flew to London based on him meeting Redknapp(or whoever) on Sunday night. Dount we had any say in it tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Such a great day, me love football, exciting times! Good night and have a good sleep. It's like 3 o'clock in the afternoon you lazy oik. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 1. Show Remy the money. 2. Show Remy video of our laughable hoofball game. 3. Tell him if they go down he can leave for £5m and get a mega signing on fee elsewhere. Make a big cuppa and put feet up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filflop1 Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Who cares greedy player better off without him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Move on Yeah it's getting old. We can come back to this one when Plan B and C have fizzled and died in two weeks time. Speaking of getting old.. I really want to believe we'll be extra determined to put this behind us and swiftly move onto an alternative but I'm not super confident I will admit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 It would be canny funny if there was a Mike Williamson blooper reel doing the rounds that our Premiership rivals were showing to tise our targets away from us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alijmitchell Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 SSN transfer window gadgey.... Remy believes he's made the right move for "footballing reasons" f*** off. If he goes to QPR he has. We are playing diabolically and it was bound to catch up to us sooner or later recruitment wise. Like I said yesterday had we been top half like expected he'd have signed and not even thought about QPR. Money talks, and if they werent offering mad cash he'd come here, but if they were offering mad cash and we were looking good then he'd be here im absolutely sure of it. I was about to say this like. If you think that the style of football played hasn't had an impact on things then people are naive in the extreme. Sure the money will have got him interested, but the style of football played is a draw for these frenchies (i think Cabaye mentioned it just after we signed him), it would only take 10 mins of Harry filling his lugs with correct information about how we play hoofball and how flowing the football he played as spurs was and that might have sealed it. So yeah when you come down to it, we have two teams battling one another for relegation one offers more money and potentially better football and living in London, the other is a hoofball side with a few poorly used french internationals somewhere in the North. Why on earth would Remy believe anything Redknapp has to say about style of play ect? He'd believe him no more than he would Cabaye or Barton. No idea what the motivation is to try to convince yourself or others that this isn't 95% about the money, but it really is. QPR offer nothing over us outside of London, that's it. We're much better known and more respected in France, much better stadium and facilities, in a better position in the league and have more players he'd know. QPR have a crazy contract offer, no need to pretend otherwise. Read my comments. I don't doubt that money drove the deal, I'm just saying, that as footballing reasons have been mentioned in the press as part of this, it would only take a look at our season so far to realise that we are an awful footballing side, and that by and large Redknapp gets good players to play good football. Ok so the press may be making up lies to help the Harry PR show, or in fact, it could have been part of the reason for rejecting us... Did you expect anything else? Seriously, do you think Remy or anyone connected with him was going to say "I came here because you offered me more money"? No matter what the reason Remy is going to say its all about Football and the press are happy to report that because its Harry. I mean the reports we've seen are basically denying that money had any influence at all, obviously you don't believe that so why believe any of it? I have said a few times now that I think money had a huge role to play. I get your point about him not wanting to come out and say that he went for the best deal, but by the same token it is not unheard of for people to come out and say that though is it? (Ba anyone?) I do think that money obviously had a huge role to play, but I have also said that the way we play football at the moment may have impacted negatively on our offer. If the guy has said that footballing reasons is a factor, then perhaps it is? I'm sure some players are honest enough to admit it, Remy clearly isn't considering the claims coming from his camp that money had nothing to do with it. I see no reason to believe a word he says if he can't at least admit that money has been a major factor in his decision. I'm just saying that it is a good chance it is both the money and the offer of playing more attractive style of football not either or. We could speculate for quite some time on everything that could have had the tiniest influence on his decision. But neither of us know either way, its equally possible that playing style has nothing to do with it at all. Right, obviously there could be other things, being closer to home, the London factor, maybe a relegation clause, I just don't see why it couldn't possibly be both money (as mentioned by other press sources, Barton etc.) and style of football played (as mentioned by his reps). Obviously we are all speculating because it hurts, and I for one am not daft enough to believe everything that has been said in the press, but since playing style is out there and has been mentioned, I think it is worth discussing as a reason for his rejection. Well he had no interest what so ever in even knowing how QPR played before this new contract offer (not that they play great Football anyway) and the comments from his camp are quite obviously dishonest. You can discuss the possibility of playing style having a minimal effect on his decision if you like but I think a better discussion is do you really believe if we were playing better he'd have ignored this crazy contract offer? I don't know, if we were playing better then we would probably be higher in the league, maybe challenging for Europe, so perhaps. But anyway, I've said that I think it is obvious that a huge offer turned his and his agents heads and that would have got him through the door, and that one of the things that may have ticked a box in their favour is the reputation Redknapp has for playing football against our brand of turgid shite. That's all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RR15 Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 We should of made Remy stare into the eyes of Hans' avatar, he would of signed within 5 seconds. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Who cares greedy player better off without him I support our clubs stance... But we're really not like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maybe_next_year Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Willie Mckay and Harry Redknapp, the two most detestable cunts in football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Who cares greedy player better off without him I support our clubs stance... But we're really not like. Probably not, but QPR may find that they would have been better off without him. What incentive does he have to even try there? Its arguably a win for him if they go down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Who cares greedy player better off without him I support our clubs stance... But we're really not like. Summed up perfectly in one simple post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matta Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Doesn't feel bad at all that he went for the money. Would be harder to take if it was for footballing reasons. Only worrying thing is who are we gonna go after now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Too many sour grapes here, Harry is just another manager at another who's doing what he thinks he has to do at his club. You guys really think he just woke up one morning and thought "oh it's the January window lets go screw over Newcastle united" Yeh it's not nice losing a transfer target to another club, but when a decent player is available for a decent price, many clubs will want to sign him, and he can only sign for one club sadly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Meh, feed'em to the pigs harold. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Is Willie McKay Remy's agent? If so the guy was never going to sign for us, with Harry interested as well. McKay and Redknapp are both cut from the same cloth. Both complete shysters. McKay would have benn doing everything to get him to join his pal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Too many sour grapes here, Harry is just another manager at another who's doing what he thinks he has to do at his club. You guys really think he just woke up one morning and thought "oh it's the January window lets go screw over Newcastle united" Yeh it's not nice losing a transfer target to another club, but when a decent player is available for a decent price, many clubs will want to sign him, and he can only sign for one club sadly. Don't think there are many sour grapes, just discussions over why he signed for QPR. Obviously he can go where he wants. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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