Nobody Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 I really like Gouffran, and think he's horribly underrated on this forum, but there's no doubt in my opinion that Remy is the better player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 When the next line is "And when you consider Gouffran has done well, that’s not a bad CV." it sounds like he's trying to say gouffran is good but Remy is even better. Just went about it in the worst way. But accurate, as much as I like Yoan Well yeah. I just don't think Bernard went out of his way to shit on Goof Troop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Gouffran is playing out of position imo so like Ba and Cisse he won't look as good out there, that said he looked better than those. If he was played centrally more often I reckon a few would rate him more highly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 We'd expect far more from him centrally, though. Obviously we all forgive the fact that he creates very little and doesn't beat players because it's not really his game. Through the middle he'd have to justify his selection through goals, and he doesn't have the strongest track record of doing that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmonkey Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 We'd expect far more from him centrally, though. Obviously we all forgive the fact that he creates very little and doesn't beat players because it's not really his game. Through the middle he'd have to justify his selection through goals, and he doesn't have the strongest track record of doing that. Gouffran for me was a Kevin Gallacher type of signing. A neat, tidy, relatively pacey, low budget forward who'll get the odd goal and give the team a decent footballer to work with, but is far too lightweight to be in the first team if we want to actually get anywhere. A decent stopgap signing when the squad was thin, but we need to do better to move forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 We'd expect far more from him centrally, though. Obviously we all forgive the fact that he creates very little and doesn't beat players because it's not really his game. Through the middle he'd have to justify his selection through goals, and he doesn't have the strongest track record of doing that. Tbf in France when they moved from winger to striker his goal return was much better. 23 in 51 to be exact, ok not exactly lethal but still respectable return and we don't know how he would do in a central berth in England yet. He's clearly a striker though, Remy is clearly better but he's still a good player who i am happy to have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 I didn't know it was that good, to be honest. That's impressive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 He's a striker but did far better than Cisse & Ba in the role he's in imo too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Gouffran's a good player. I'd like to see him in the team more often than not next season, regardless of how many strikers we sign. ---------------- Cabaye ---- Sissoko ---------------- HBA ----------------- Gouffran ---------------- Remy ------------------------- Cisse -------------------------- I'd like to see something like that, set up to be as fluid as possible. I predict it'll be 4-4-2 though with Cisse and Remy up front with a bunch of mis-matches across a flat four in midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 More like -------Cabs--------------Sisso ----------------Giuff Remy---------------------------Benny ----------------Cisse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Gouffran's a good striker and a good finisher, some of his goals for Bordeaux (when played up top) were brilliantly clinical. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Nixon on FB seems to think this is happening Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Gouffran's a good striker and a good finisher, some of his goals for Bordeaux (when played up top) were brilliantly clinical. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 More like -------Cabs----Marv----Sisso Remy---------------------------Benny ----------------Cisse Best possible outcome tbh, although you would have to be exceedingly clever to make a winning team out of that front 6. Something i probably would trusted Keegan or Sir Bobby to do but not so much Pardew. Hopefully he can prove me wrong because its clearly our best front 6 if Remy joins. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 More like -------Cabs--------------Sisso ----------------Giuff Remy---------------------------Benny ----------------Cisse I'd be equally happy with that, tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Gouffran isn't a second striker, man. Not at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Gouffran isn't a second striker, man. Not at all. I don't see why he couldn't play just off the striker. Collecting the ball, operating the channels and hovering around the edge of the box/arriving late. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 More like -------Cabs--------------Sisso ----------------Giuff Remy---------------------------Benny ----------------Cisse I'd be equally happy with that, tbh. I'd rather Marv in there instead of Guoff as I first posted but as it was a Remy vs Gouff type debate I changes it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 If we sign him, I'd Loic that Remy much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 I don't see Gouffran as a 2nd striker at all. We need a 2nd striker to put the ball in the net. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Gouffran isn't a second striker, man. Not at all. I don't see why he couldn't play just off the striker. Collecting the ball, operating the channels and hovering around the edge of the box/arriving late. I just think we'd get overrun. At least if someone like Marveaux was there he'd be able to drop deep into tight spots, get the ball and drive us forward with his dribbling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Gouffran's a good all-round striker. I think his reputation probably suffers a bit because there's no one aspect of his game that really stands out. But he's pretty good at making something from any situation that he finds himself in. Good team player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 I don't see Gouffran as a 2nd striker at all. We need a 2nd striker to put the ball in the net. Have absolutely no doubt Gouffran could score provided he wasn't plonked on the wing and/or receiving balls to his head all the time (arf). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 I don't see Gouffran as a 2nd striker at all. We need a 2nd striker to put the ball in the net. Tbf we don't know how good he would be as he's hardly played there. I do agree mind if Gouffran is playing he's going to be one of two forwards and we do need him to score more than he has. I'm sure he would though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Gouffran's a good all-round striker. I think his reputation probably suffers a bit because there's no one aspect of his game that really stands out. But he's pretty good at making something from any situation that he finds himself in. Good team player. Ideal squad player for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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