Moussa Sissoko

[Guest]

There's that word again, 'mercenary'. Probably the one thing he isn't. All he's shown in interviews is ambition to be the best he can. He's played for 3 clubs in 10 years, each one a step up from the last. Aye he's a limited player, but he's made the best of what attributes he does have. Spurs were never going to be suited to him the way they play but I could see him being am asset at a mid-table club playing on the break.

[Heron]

The amount of criticism Sissoko gets compared to the rest is absolutely fucking nuts. In a lot of his seasons with us despite supposedly never caring or putting effort in, he was easily our most creative player. There were FAR worse players than him that were playing for us at the same time and there are far worse players playing for us still now.

Sissoko gets more criticism for his bad attitude and lack of professionalism. Again in hindsight the likes have Wijnaldum should have got as much (if not more) but Moussa only got what he deserved. To this day Dummett gets slated by half our fans and I'd rather 11 Dummetts than Sissokos. Regardless of position.

[Heron]

There's that word again, 'mercenary'. Probably the one thing he isn't. All he's shown in interviews is ambition to be the best he can. He's played for 3 clubs in 10 years, each one a step up from the last. Aye he's a limited player, but he's made the best of what attributes he does have. Spurs were never going to be suited to him the way they play but I could see him being am asset at a mid-table club playing on the break.

He may not have jumped from club to club much but he is still a mercenary. He's just not good enough to have jumped far enough.

 

He will be effective at someone who play the counter attack and his athleticism will frighten people. His footballing ability won't.

[Mick]

 

Sissoko gets more criticism for his bad attitude and lack of professionalism. Again in hindsight the likes have Wijnaldum should have got as much (if not more) but Moussa only got what he deserved. To this day Dummett gets slated by half our fans and I'd rather 11 Dummetts than Sissokos. Regardless of position.

 

11 Dummetts and we're a pub team.

[Heron]

 

Sissoko gets more criticism for his bad attitude and lack of professionalism. Again in hindsight the likes have Wijnaldum should have got as much (if not more) but Moussa only got what he deserved. To this day Dummett gets slated by half our fans and I'd rather 11 Dummetts than Sissokos. Regardless of position.

 

11 Dummetts and we're a pub team.

Dummett does his job - defends. 11 people doing their job and we work as a TEAM.

 

People don't like Dummett because he is limited going forward, that's not his role. But regardless of any of the above I can forgive people for perceived lack ability - I cannot forgive people for the incorrect attitude / professionalism without good reason.

 

Moussa should have been playing out his skin to advertise himself as a professional regardless of who was managing him and whilst that provides him with something to be excused upon its not enough to warrant the number of games he simply did fuck all for us.

[Guest]

Going forward is Dummett's role though. It's every full-back's role. He's just shit at it. This isn't the thread for it but we're going to have major problems next season if our only overlapping threat is Yedlin. We're going to need to sign a bloody good left-winger capable of killing a ball stone dead from over his shpulder with a defender up his arse next season to compensate for it

 

You could equally argue that Dummett's lazy for not showing any improvement in overlapping, crossing a ball, etc in 3-4 years as a starting full-back.

[Heron]

Going forward is Dummett's role though. It's every full-back's role. He's just shit at it. This isn't the thread for it but we're going to have major problems next season if our only overlapping threat is Yedlin. We're going to need to sign a bloody good left-winger capable of killing a ball stone dead from over his shpulder with a defender up his arse next season to compensate for it

 

You could equally argue that Dummett's lazy for not showing any improvement in overlapping, crossing a ball, etc in 3-4 years as a starting full-back.

Again not the place for it...But that is only his role if that's the tactic the manager is deploying. I suspect in a Benitez team that actually isn't his role per sé. Yedlin isn't great defensively and actually that's more what I (and I suspect Rafa) consider his role. That's not to say I think either is better but that's partially why Dummet was one of our most used players. That and the facts there was less competition there (). Showing a lack of improvement in technical ability isn't necessarily lazy either. Maybe, he just simply cannot get any better.

 

My point in this regardless is that Sissoko often didn't do as I suspect he was told and also didn't have the right attitude. Every one of our players from this season has.

[Mick]

 

Dummett does his job - defends. 11 people doing their job and we work as a TEAM.

 

People don't like Dummett because he is limited going forward, that's not his role. But regardless of any of the above I can forgive people for perceived lack ability - I cannot forgive people for the incorrect attitude / professionalism without good reason.

 

Moussa should have been playing out his skin to advertise himself as a professional regardless of who was managing him and whilst that provides him with something to be excused upon its not enough to warrant the number of games he simply did f*** all for us.

 

Dummett does do his job, he's just not very good at it.

[Heron]

 

Dummett does his job - defends. 11 people doing their job and we work as a TEAM.

 

People don't like Dummett because he is limited going forward, that's not his role. But regardless of any of the above I can forgive people for perceived lack ability - I cannot forgive people for the incorrect attitude / professionalism without good reason.

 

Moussa should have been playing out his skin to advertise himself as a professional regardless of who was managing him and whilst that provides him with something to be excused upon its not enough to warrant the number of games he simply did f*** all for us.

 

Dummett does do his job, he's just not very good at it.

He might not do it well enough to be a comfortable premier league side (we shall see) but he certainly does it well enough to be a worthy Championship winning LB. Again...He defends well enough but his attacking part of his game could do with improving.

 

For me he has always been a CB anyway

[Guest]

Going forward is Dummett's role though. It's every full-back's role. He's just s*** at it. This isn't the thread for it but we're going to have major problems next season if our only overlapping threat is Yedlin. We're going to need to sign a bloody good left-winger capable of killing a ball stone dead from over his shpulder with a defender up his arse next season to compensate for it

 

You could equally argue that Dummett's lazy for not showing any improvement in overlapping, crossing a ball, etc in 3-4 years as a starting full-back.

Again not the place for it...But that is only his role if that's the tactic the manager is deploying. I suspect in a Benitez team that actually isn't his role per sé. Yedlin isn't great defensively and actually that's more what I (and I suspect Rafa) consider his role. That's not to say I think either is better but that's partially why Dummet was one of our most used players. That and the facts there was less competition there (). Showing a lack of improvement in technical ability isn't necessarily lazy either. Maybe, he just simply cannot get any better.

 

My point in this regardless is that Sissoko often didn't do as I suspect he was told and also didn't have the right attitude. Every one of our players from this season has.

 

I think the fact he spent £5m on a regular left-back from Serie A, who's profile is the complete opposite to Dummett, suggests Benitez doesn't particularly see Dummett as a first-choice. It hasn't worked out with Lazaar, but I wouldn't be surprised if we sign someone like that again this summer.

[Heron]

Going forward is Dummett's role though. It's every full-back's role. He's just s*** at it. This isn't the thread for it but we're going to have major problems next season if our only overlapping threat is Yedlin. We're going to need to sign a bloody good left-winger capable of killing a ball stone dead from over his shpulder with a defender up his arse next season to compensate for it

 

You could equally argue that Dummett's lazy for not showing any improvement in overlapping, crossing a ball, etc in 3-4 years as a starting full-back.

Again not the place for it...But that is only his role if that's the tactic the manager is deploying. I suspect in a Benitez team that actually isn't his role per sé. Yedlin isn't great defensively and actually that's more what I (and I suspect Rafa) consider his role. That's not to say I think either is better but that's partially why Dummet was one of our most used players. That and the facts there was less competition there (). Showing a lack of improvement in technical ability isn't necessarily lazy either. Maybe, he just simply cannot get any better.

 

My point in this regardless is that Sissoko often didn't do as I suspect he was told and also didn't have the right attitude. Every one of our players from this season has.

 

I think the fact he spent £5m on a regular left-back from Serie A, who's profile is the complete opposite to Dummett, suggests Benitez doesn't particularly see Dummett as a first-choice. It hasn't worked out with Lazaar, but I wouldn't be surprised if we sign someone like that again this summer.

Fair point and I agree that it wouldn't be a shock. I just don't necessarily foresee us deploying overlapping wing backs much (if at all) next season and I certainly don't think Dummett is as bad as often made out.

[Mick]

 

Fair point and I agree that it wouldn't be a shock. I just don't necessarily foresee us deploying overlapping wing backs much (if at all) next season and I certainly don't think Dummett is as bad as often made out.

 

It's all about opinions and we all have differing ones to a certain degree.  I think he's a poor footballer but that doesn't make me right, it's just my opinion.

[Heron]

[Foluwashola]

The likes of Dummett & Gouffran are never worthy of hatred because it's clear their making the most of their limited talent.

 

I'm with Heron, would sooner watch the likes of them give their all in a Newcastle kit than have another Sissoko strolling around, interested only in the paycheck.

[xLiaaamx]

Gouffran get muscled out of it too easily quite often for me.

[Hanshithispantz]

Gouffran's only hated because Pardew kept on playing him when he was absolutely shite. It was a slow transformation iirc, from "this guy looks exactly what we've needed" to "he isn't good enough, stop playing him please" to "I wish he would die".

 

Sissoko's was a pretty sudden "this guy looks amazing" to "actually this guy looks shite, but he can run with a ball*".

 

*something we desperately needed.

[triggs]

The likes of Dummett & Gouffran are never worthy of hatred because it's clear their making the most of their limited talent.

 

I'm with Heron, would sooner watch the likes of them give their all in a Newcastle kit than have another Sissoko strolling around, interested only in the paycheck.

I don't think there's any reason why Gouffran couldn't be a better player than he is. He has a decent touch and strike on him but always takes the easy option and never tries anything difficult

[Raconteur]

Going forward is Dummett's role though. It's every full-back's role. He's just s*** at it. This isn't the thread for it but we're going to have major problems next season if our only overlapping threat is Yedlin. We're going to need to sign a bloody good left-winger capable of killing a ball stone dead from over his shpulder with a defender up his arse next season to compensate for it

 

You could equally argue that Dummett's lazy for not showing any improvement in overlapping, crossing a ball, etc in 3-4 years as a starting full-back.

Again not the place for it...But that is only his role if that's the tactic the manager is deploying. I suspect in a Benitez team that actually isn't his role per sé. Yedlin isn't great defensively and actually that's more what I (and I suspect Rafa) consider his role. That's not to say I think either is better but that's partially why Dummet was one of our most used players. That and the facts there was less competition there (). Showing a lack of improvement in technical ability isn't necessarily lazy either. Maybe, he just simply cannot get any better.

 

My point in this regardless is that Sissoko often didn't do as I suspect he was told and also didn't have the right attitude. Every one of our players from this season has.

 

I think the fact he spent £5m on a regular left-back from Serie A, who's profile is the complete opposite to Dummett, suggests Benitez doesn't particularly see Dummett as a first-choice. It hasn't worked out with Lazaar, but I wouldn't be surprised if we sign someone like that again this summer.

 

I feel that Rafa likes the option of an "attacking" fullback or a "defensive" fullback - on the right it was supposed to be Gamez or Yedlin, and on the left Dummett or Lazaar. He's a man who likes to change his tactics in order to maximise his chances of a result. Therefore I agree that there will be a new "attacking" left back purchased, but he won't necessarily be a starter every week. Just those weeks Rafa wants to attack down the left as opposed to securing the left flank.

 

But yeah, fuck Sissoko.

[James]

Article in the Chronicle says he has let rip at Pocchetino (poor communicator, always plays the same XI as the year before), announced his World Cup ambitions are at risk and listed a number of clubs he wants to join.

[Figures 1-0 Football]

The hideous cunt will never changed.

[Guest neesy111]

Article in the Chronicle says he has let rip at Pocchetino (poor communicator, always plays the same XI as the year before), announced his World Cup ambitions are at risk and listed a number of clubs he wants to join.

 

He deserves Pardew.

[Sima]

Article in the Chronicle says he has let rip at Pocchetino (poor communicator, always plays the same XI as the year before), announced his World Cup ambitions are at risk and listed a number of clubs he wants to join.

 

:lol:

[BergenMagpie]

“It was the worst season of my career when collectively it was certainly the best – it’s weird.”

 

It's not weird. It makes perfectly sense you horrible cunt

 

 

 

(https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/3678408/moussa-sissoko-quit-tottenham-showdown-talks-mauricio-pochettino/)

[triggs]

Article in the Chronicle says he has let rip at Pocchetino (poor communicator, always plays the same XI as the year before), announced his World Cup ambitions are at risk and listed a number of clubs he wants to join.

Link?

[Pons Alias]

The Sun says:

 

'...Superb showings on Teeside...'

 

Not a single fact in that.