Moussa Sissoko

[Hanshithispantz]

Pretty much what Jim said, it's half the fallout from being a contrary WUM.

 

However it would be daft for Sissoko to "slow down" when it's his pace, power and directness that has been effective for us, and what won us the freekick for the equaliser. If he slows down and tries to play the game like Mata he'll probably look useless.

[Rocker]

Sissoko plays like someone is holding his RT button down, all the time 

[Wullie]

Fuck me, in this thread now too?

 

How unutterably tedious.

[ExiledGeordie]

I think it's probably because you consistently criticise good players for little to no reason, and are incredibly irritating at the same time.

 

Pretty much this. He had an off game like most of the team v Stoke and taking into consideration how good he's been since he's arrived you make it sound like there are gaping holes in his play. He had some storming runs on Sunday and sure some f the passes went array but howay man put it in context, he's been a revelation since he arrived

[The College Dropout]

However it would be daft for Sissoko to "slow down" when it's his pace, power and directness that has been effective for us, and what won us the freekick for the equaliser. If he slows down and tries to play the game like Mata he'll probably look useless.

 

They where a few times in the last game, he skipped past two, looked up and should've played it simple. You know, knowing when to go for the jugular.

 

 

i don't constantly criticise good players for no reason. I criticise our under-performers the most because they deserve it. Colo & Cisse have been under-par for most of the season.

 

Rarely say anything negative about Krul or Cabaye because they haven't deserved it.

[The College Dropout]

If I say something negative about a player it's like i've insulted your mothers ffs.

 

Sometimes he should slow it down is all i'm saying. He can do that from time to time when the situation calls for it you know.

[Hanshithispantz]

You've been comparing Cisse to Darren Bent. I'd rather you insulted my mother tbh.

[The College Dropout]

You've been comparing Cisse to Darren Bent. I'd rather you insulted my mother tbh.

Since when is Darren Bent a terrible footballer? He's a, last shoulder of the defender striker. Just how people have been describing how Cisse should play.

 

Would Pippo Inzaghi, with great first time shots and volleys be better? Point is, that lad doesn't offer very much to the team general play. Not sure Cisse's prolific enough to carry. When he tries to get involved like against Stoke, he was terrible at it.

[Mole_Toonfan]

If I say something negative about a player it's like i've insulted your mothers ffs.

 

Sometimes he should slow it down is all i'm saying. He can do that from time to time when the situation calls for it you know.

 

Tbf its the way you worded it, if you just said he needs to slow it down sometimes( instead of basically saying his passing is shit) it would have been fine as i'm sure most will agree.

[Kanj]

Look man - its a message board, chat & debate all you want. But you know you'll get a reaction when you are constantly criticizing the better players in their individual threads every single day. Has the fact that there are very little quoting you or agreeing with you made any difference? No. You just continue on with your point in every single thread, nearly every single day.

[Hanshithispantz]

Bent is a poacher, as was Inzaghi. Cisse needs to be the furthest player forward but he's not a poacher ffs. The Stoke game was awful, everyone saw that (even the man himself and his manager came out and agreed) but it's hardly the norm, he's more than capable when he drops back. There's also the fact Cisse can score goals from anywhere and in any fashion, he still needs a degree of service to do this like. I'm not continuing this conversation anyway, it's ludicrous.

[SEMTEX]

Feeling like this lad probably shouldn't have dropped out of college.

[Minhosa]

If the Stoke game was his debut (and the majority hadn't seen what he was capable of............) we'd be absolutely delighted thinking we'd signed a massive player with the ability to change our play completely. As he got used to the league.

 

He's had a handful of games, most of which he's excelled in, and expectation levels go up.

 

He's going to have the odd off game and play a dozen shitty passes at times. Give a shit.

[The College Dropout]

I have multiple degrees like but aye, keep running the same tired joke.

[SEMTEX]

That wasn't original? Damn it. I'm slipping.

[Oakie Doke]

the only degrees you have are in dropping out of college. Oh, and being a silly idiot. BURN

[SEMTEX]

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[Mole_Toonfan]

the only degrees you have are in dropping out of college. Oh, and being a silly idiot. BURN

 

[Tiresias]

This has all got a bit silly

 

I have too noted Sissoko missing a lot of passes, he's not a playmaker who will slow down a game or pick out inch perfect passes everytime, his game is escaping from defensive midfielders who may be covering him, rampaging forward and then releasing the ball at full pelt through last line of defence. He doesn't do what many players do and stop if the ball isn't on and pass sideways, he seems very keen to just go for the overambitious pass with the idea being a few times a game he will get it spot on. He will however give the ball way in promising positions doing this, having said that if we are ambitious enough and pressure high it's likely we'll get any rebound from someone intercepting or get ball back soon.

 

Stoke sat too deep for this play to work very often, the spaces he had to thread through were narrow and while Marveaux managed it was a lapse in Stoke's defending too. Sissoko will have more accurate games and will play against defences that play higher up and it'll work a lot better.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

This has all got a bit silly

 

I have too noted Sissoko missing a lot of passes, he's not a playmaker who will slow down a game or pick out inch perfect passes everytime, his game is escaping from defensive midfielders who may be covering him, rampaging forward and then releasing the ball at full pelt through last line of defence. He doesn't do what many players do and stop if the ball isn't on and pass sideways, he seems very keen to just go for the overambitious pass with the idea being a few times a game he will get it spot on. He will however give the ball way in promising positions doing this, having said that if we are ambitious enough and pressure high it's likely we'll get any rebound from someone intercepting or get ball back soon.

 

Stoke sat too deep for this play to work very often, the spaces he had to thread through were narrow and while Marveaux managed it was a lapse in Stoke's defending too. Sissoko will have more accurate games and will play against defences that play higher up and it'll work a lot better.

 

 

Agree with you, his style wasn't ideal for Stoke but in general he'll be a great weapon for us.

[ExiledGeordie]

This has all got a bit silly

 

I have too noted Sissoko missing a lot of passes, he's not a playmaker who will slow down a game or pick out inch perfect passes everytime, his game is escaping from defensive midfielders who may be covering him, rampaging forward and then releasing the ball at full pelt through last line of defence. He doesn't do what many players do and stop if the ball isn't on and pass sideways, he seems very keen to just go for the overambitious pass with the idea being a few times a game he will get it spot on. He will however give the ball way in promising positions doing this, having said that if we are ambitious enough and pressure high it's likely we'll get any rebound from someone intercepting or get ball back soon.

 

Stoke sat too deep for this play to work very often, the spaces he had to thread through were narrow and while Marveaux managed it was a lapse in Stoke's defending too. Sissoko will have more accurate games and will play against defences that play higher up and it'll work a lot better.

 

 

Agree with you, his style wasn't ideal for Stoke but in general he'll be a great weapon for us.

 

Well said and especially as Stoke were hardly coming to have a go at us. Negative, spoiling tactics to go with most of our players being slightly off contributed to a frustrating day. I noted a few runs where Sissoko got into full stride but there options weren't there with runners and there were too often simply too many Stoke players to cut things out. I've always though HBA's return will really help the likes of Sissoko because you can tell they'll be on a similar wavelength when they break into attack. They'll create space for each other. To be honest I think some people over anaylse performances too much.

[Tiresias]

Thing is because Sissoko wasn't getting anywhere through the middle we tended to go out wide, which they could defend fine. Pardew should have Shifted Sissoko back and moved Cabaye forward (if he didn't want to use any subs), Cabaye could have slowed game down, kept possession around their box, passed through the lines more calmly and also shot from range better. Sissoko should be our no 10 against teams defending high up, or just indeed any team with any ambition, against really defensive teams he's not quite  a can opener.

[Mole_Toonfan]

Tbf when Sissoko went wide Tiote found him with a great through ball and with a better finish he could have scored it wasn't a complete waste of a change.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Thing is because Sissoko wasn't getting anywhere through the middle we tended to go out wide, which they could defend fine. Pardew should have Shifted Sissoko back and moved Cabaye forward (if he didn't want to use any subs), Cabaye could have slowed game down, kept possession around their box, passed through the lines more calmly and also shot from range better. Sissoko should be our no 10 against teams defending high up, or just indeed any team with any ambition, against really defensive teams he's not quite  a can opener.

 

Aye, it's going to require some smarts from Pardew, knowing how to use Sissoko differently in certain games. Someone made a brilliant post about Yaya, and how Mancini shifts him back and forwards depending on the situation and the opposition.

 

Against Stoke we really needed someone with technique as the furthest forward midfielder, eventually that came in the form of Marveaux.

[The College Dropout]

Thing is because Sissoko wasn't getting anywhere through the middle we tended to go out wide, which they could defend fine. Pardew should have Shifted Sissoko back and moved Cabaye forward (if he didn't want to use any subs), Cabaye could have slowed game down, kept possession around their box, passed through the lines more calmly and also shot from range better. Sissoko should be our no 10 against teams defending high up, or just indeed any team with any ambition, against really defensive teams he's not quite  a can opener.

 

Aye, it's going to require some smarts from Pardew, knowing how to use Sissoko differently in certain games. Someone made a brilliant post about Yaya, and how Mancini shifts him back and forwards depending on the situation and the opposition.

 

Against Stoke we really needed someone with technique as the furthest forward midfielder, eventually that came in the form of Marveaux.

 

Agreed.