TRon Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 He scores the odd goal as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 He scores the one goal as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 He scores the one goal as well. Wijnaldum not Sissoko Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 He scores the one goal as well. Wijnaldum not Sissoko Sorry, didn't read the preceding posts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Think Wij playing deep has suited him and Liverpool. He could have played deep for us but it wouldn't have turned the rest of the team into Liverpool standard superstars. Apart from Colback of course. Yes. That's why I said it works for him, at Liverpool. So you now rate him then? I don't know what the 'real' Wijnaldum is tbh. For us he was an attacking player. And he spent most of his time hiding. At Liverpool he's playing in a role we never gave him, in a specialist system with much better players around him. So I don't know. It seems to be working so far at Liverpool. I don't rate Henderson higher than Wijnaldum and he seems successful in the same system. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Think Wij playing deep has suited him and Liverpool. He could have played deep for us but it wouldn't have turned the rest of the team into Liverpool standard superstars. Apart from Colback of course. Yes. That's why I said it works for him, at Liverpool. So you now rate him then? I don't know what the 'real' Wijnaldum is tbh. For us he was an attacking player. And he spent most of his time hiding. At Liverpool he's playing in a role we never gave him, in a specialist system with much better players around him. So I don't know. It seems to be working so far at Liverpool. I don't rate Henderson higher than Wijnaldum and he seems successful in the same system. Where's he playing at Liverpool then, surely not DM? Seems interesting to buy him and not have him trying to score goals like but maybe that's why Klopp is England manager and I'm not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Think Wij playing deep has suited him and Liverpool. He could have played deep for us but it wouldn't have turned the rest of the team into Liverpool standard superstars. Apart from Colback of course. Yes. That's why I said it works for him, at Liverpool. So you now rate him then? I don't know what the 'real' Wijnaldum is tbh. For us he was an attacking player. And he spent most of his time hiding. At Liverpool he's playing in a role we never gave him, in a specialist system with much better players around him. So I don't know. It seems to be working so far at Liverpool. I don't rate Henderson higher than Wijnaldum and he seems successful in the same system. Where's he playing at Liverpool then, surely not DM? Seems interesting to buy him and not have him trying to score goals like but maybe that's why Klopp is England manager and I'm not. He's been playing as one of the middle 3 in a 4-3-3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Think Wij playing deep has suited him and Liverpool. He could have played deep for us but it wouldn't have turned the rest of the team into Liverpool standard superstars. Apart from Colback of course. Yes. That's why I said it works for him, at Liverpool. So you now rate him then? I don't know what the 'real' Wijnaldum is tbh. For us he was an attacking player. And he spent most of his time hiding. At Liverpool he's playing in a role we never gave him, in a specialist system with much better players around him. So I don't know. It seems to be working so far at Liverpool. I don't rate Henderson higher than Wijnaldum and he seems successful in the same system. Where's he playing at Liverpool then, surely not DM? Seems interesting to buy him and not have him trying to score goals like but maybe that's why Klopp is England manager and I'm not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelphish Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 I think Mojo just slipped into another timeline. One for Parky and Mr Logic, this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Not so much on here, but I do find it weird how Wijnaldum gets a free pass over Sissoko. Sissoko's deluded and him and his gobshite agent undermined the club, but at least when he played you'd notice him and whatever varying level of performance he was giving in each match. Wijnaldum undermined us just as much and had less of a spine than Michael Owen. In the end I completely resented seeing him in the starting XI, and found his cowardly performances much more disrespectful and infuriating and whatever adjective was thrown at Sissoko than I did with Sissoko like. It's not a competition over who's the biggest prick, but I do find the double standards in our fan base as a whole a bit annoying in this case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Sissoko did alright for us and Wijnaldum wasn't here long enough to even register (and disappeared in most games). Out of the two I definitely have better feelings for Moussa. His only real failing was always chatting to the French media, but it's not like he's the only player who falls into that trap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Being utterly shit and not really trying could be classed as a failing tbf. Not that I have the energy to really get into it all again like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 It's not that that's in dispute, although I'd argue that him being 'utterly shit' is an utterly shit, and massively exaggerated opinion when the scale of all things over the past few years has included Colback, Taylor, Gouffran, Thauvin, Cabella, and Tiote, all of whom contributed far less than Sissoko. It's more that Wijnaldum in particular had a comparable attitude and contributed nothing aside from 4 against a shit Norwich side and a few other home performances. The criticism of him is far less vociferous, despite him being much more of a lazy, spineless prick imo. At least Sissoko didn't hide, there's nothing worse than a coward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Probably being a bit relentless and argumentative, because it's been done to death, but it does irk me like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 It's not that that's in dispute, although I'd argue that him being 'utterly shit' is an utterly shit, and massively exaggerated opinion when the scale of all things over the past few years has included Colback, Taylor, Gouffran, Thauvin, Cabella, and Tiote, all of whom contributed far less than Sissoko. It's more that Wijnaldum in particular had a comparable attitude and contributed nothing aside from 4 against a shit Norwich side and a few other home performances. The criticism of him is far less vociferous, despite him being much more of a lazy, spineless prick imo. At least Sissoko didn't hide, there's nothing worse than a coward. Obviously I exaggerate slightly, but my post was more in response to Ian's claim that Moussa's only failing was speaking to the French press. He failed us in so many ways it was almost laughable. Agree entirely that Wijnaldum was a pathetic waster as well. Probably the lesser of the two evils imo though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmoset Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 The better players always get more criticism when results aren't going well. There's probably a psychological reason for it. Not that they both didn't have horrible games at times. Particularly Gini. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Think Wij playing deep has suited him and Liverpool. He could have played deep for us but it wouldn't have turned the rest of the team into Liverpool standard superstars. Apart from Colback of course. Yes. That's why I said it works for him, at Liverpool. So you now rate him then? I don't know what the 'real' Wijnaldum is tbh. For us he was an attacking player. And he spent most of his time hiding. At Liverpool he's playing in a role we never gave him, in a specialist system with much better players around him. So I don't know. It seems to be working so far at Liverpool. I don't rate Henderson higher than Wijnaldum and he seems successful in the same system. So Klopp knows a bit more about football than you do, fair enough I wouldn't argue with that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Henderson's much better than Wijnaldum like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Henderson's much better than Wijnaldum like. They both have very different roles I imagine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Wijnaldum was absolutely shocking last season. Was far more offended by him than I was Moussa. Still don't know what he is as a player, and where you'd want him to play. Delighted we got so much for him and Moussa. Sensational stuff really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Sissoko is a shit footballer, a typical MOTD highlights player. Watch him for 90 minutes over a season or so and you will see that he really is quite shit. 30m Dick Turpin wore a mask. We got more for Carroll, but this is the biggest sale in our history. Its like free money, money for nothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 It's meaningless anyway. Different era in terms of the money in football, different circumstances and Ashley is the profiteer, not the squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Sissoko not being in the first-team and around the squad is actually beneficial. He was a shit player for us and a bad apple! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Would still have Sissoko over Diame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
U2 Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Would rather a better player than both. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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