The College Dropout Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 The second wasn't his fault. Firstly, it was a brilliant goal from a half-chance. The best Mapou could've done was win the ball and walk off but that wasn't likely - you wouldn't advise a defender to go to grown or make a challenge in that area. He held him off well imo. It was a good lay-off and excellent finish. How much tighter could he have been? The third was his fault. At that point Roma were rattled tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 How much tighter could he have been? A lot http://i.imgur.com/HtH0ikR.png He lets him get a run on him, Muller is even pointing where he wants the ball. By the time MYM has realised what's going on about him, Muller is ahead of him and has the ball at his feet. I agree you can't blame him after that, but he had to spot/nullify the danger in the first place Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 How much tighter could he have been? A lot http://i.imgur.com/HtH0ikR.png He lets him get a run on him, Muller is even pointing where he wants the ball. By the time MYM has realised what's going on about him, Muller is ahead of him and has the ball at his feet. I agree you can't blame him after that, but he had to spot/nullify the danger in the first place Without having seen the goal there is no way you can say his positioning in that still makes him at fault for a goal that may have happened after a pass and move. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 How much tighter could he have been? A lot http://i.imgur.com/HtH0ikR.png He lets him get a run on him, Muller is even pointing where he wants the ball. By the time MYM has realised what's going on about him, Muller is ahead of him and has the ball at his feet. I agree you can't blame him after that, but he had to spot/nullify the danger in the first place Without having seen the goal there is no way you can say his positioning in that still makes him at fault for a goal that may have happened after a pass and move. If he's even just one step forward, in line with the rest of his defence the run for Muller isnt even on. The striker starts behind him, MYM knows where he is yet still allows him to get the run right across his path and in front of him. It's pretty basic defending. Don't let your man get a run in front of you blahblah Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 How much tighter could he have been? A lot http://i.imgur.com/HtH0ikR.png He lets him get a run on him, Muller is even pointing where he wants the ball. By the time MYM has realised what's going on about him, Muller is ahead of him and has the ball at his feet. I agree you can't blame him after that, but he had to spot/nullify the danger in the first place Without having seen the goal there is no way you can say his positioning in that still makes him at fault for a goal that may have happened after a pass and move. If he's even just one step forward, in line with the rest of his defence the run for Muller isnt even on. The striker starts behind him, MYM knows where he is yet still allows him to get the run right across his path and in front of him. It's pretty basic defending. Don't let your man get a run in front of you blahblah Preach. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 I disagree. In fact, what you are saying is something Colo does quite frequently, "bite" when a forward drops a little deeper to collect the ball or lay it off to a runner, and it's a situation where the defender is quite easily turned or simply caught out leaving the centre of defence wide open. Didn't Southampton score their fourth from such a situation? Again, I haven't seen the goal, so maybe it looks worse in motion, but in that still his position isn't all that bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Again, I haven't seen the goal, so maybe it looks worse in motion, but in that still his position isn't all that bad. No, not if you had some wits about you. I'm not singling out the position and only the position as the reason, I thought that was clear Get tight and stop him doing it, or stand off and see it coming BEFORE he does it so you can react. MYM does netiher Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 How much tighter could he have been? A lot http://i.imgur.com/HtH0ikR.png He lets him get a run on him, Muller is even pointing where he wants the ball. By the time MYM has realised what's going on about him, Muller is ahead of him and has the ball at his feet. I agree you can't blame him after that, but he had to spot/nullify the danger in the first place Without having seen the goal there is no way you can say his positioning in that still makes him at fault for a goal that may have happened after a pass and move. If he's even just one step forward, in line with the rest of his defence the run for Muller isnt even on. The striker starts behind him, MYM knows where he is yet still allows him to get the run right across his path and in front of him. It's pretty basic defending. Don't let your man get a run in front of you blahblah If he's a step forward he's not in line with the rest of his defence though. Cole is still playing them on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 5 zip at half time - Pardew will be purring. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Just seen the goals, he's at fault for at least two of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Not a great performance, but it's Bayern Munich at their best, and Roma's midfielders weren't even pretending to track runners from midfield, which didn't help. Willo and Colo will be giving performances worse than this in the next three games man. Guaranteed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Toon Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 MYM arrived as a League 1 winner with Montpellier and a reputation as one of Europe's most promising young defenders. Unfortunately for whatever reason, unsuited to the EPL, Pardewed, Overated, he never played particularly well for us, either at CH or fullback and his future is definitely not with us. He's probably a reasonable defender, but he's not a Varane or a Mangala, and his performance for Roma today showed all the reasons why. He's quick and good on the ball, but lacks positional awareness, concentration and the real nasty edge that the top defenders have. Time to move on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgarve Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 MYM arrived as a League 1 winner with Montpellier and a reputation as one of Europe's most promising young defenders. Unfortunately for whatever reason, unsuited to the EPL, Pardewed, Overated, he never played particularly well for us, either at CH or fullback and his future is definitely not with us. He's probably a reasonable defender, but he's not a Varane or a Mangala, and his performance for Roma today showed all the reasons why. He's quick and good on the ball, but lacks positional awareness, concentration and the real nasty edge that the top defenders have. Time to move on. And we finally found pardew Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandamninator Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Imagine Willo and Colo against Bayern Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Aye but that would be countered with the unplayable Obertan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
olliemort Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Whatever about tonights performance you would be mad to write him off. He is still so young for a defender. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Toon Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 He's going to be a reasonable to good player for someone, but not us and probably not in the Premier League Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 He's crap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 He could have done a bit better for the second but there's absolutely no way he's 'at fault' for that goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I'm no MYM fanboy but people coming to massive conclusions on yesterday are being foolish. Chivu and Mexes played the last time they conceded 7 in the CL. They could've carved out a career for a Midtable Prem side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Ouch, just seen the result. Means little but there's no doubt he's at this moment in time suited to a slower pace of football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I disagree. In fact, what you are saying is something Colo does quite frequently, "bite" when a forward drops a little deeper to collect the ball or lay it off to a runner, and it's a situation where the defender is quite easily turned or simply caught out leaving the centre of defence wide open. Didn't Southampton score their fourth from such a situation? Again, I haven't seen the goal, so maybe it looks worse in motion, but in that still his position isn't all that bad. Going a bit off topic. But he seems to be doing it all the time at the minute and he just ends up getting mugged and is constantly in no man's land. Did it twice near the end of the game against Leicester and left us dreadfully exposed. Colo really has gone to shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Only watched it up until 5-1 but i thought his individual performance was actually alright. Poor for the third goal, granted, but still made some great tackles & interceptions and brought the ball out from defence well. Cole had a pretty rough night, like. Robben is insane, he seems even more agile now than he was in his mid-twenties. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 They put an aggregate of 7 goals past Pique. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 They put an aggregate of 7 goals past Pique. exactly. they are arguably the best side in the world. I'm not making excuses for him, but De rossi was god awful They overwhelmed the whole team but especially De Rossi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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