Dokko Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Penny for MA & DL's thoughts right now... They'd take that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Me giving him abuse on MOTD. :lol: Quality. Sky plused tomorrow morning. First reason I've had to watch it in about 3 months. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest malandro Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Absolutely nothing questioning the manager there. Completely blameless. They never criticise any managers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Me giving him abuse on MOTD. When's this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Absolutely nothing questioning the manager there. Completely blameless. They never criticise any managers. They're all cowards, man. Including Shearer who's a tenth of the man off the pitch he was on it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Me giving him abuse on MOTD. When's this? He's on twice, on the game coverage and during the analysis afterwards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.S.R. Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Absolutely nothing questioning the manager there. Completely blameless. They never criticise any managers. They're all cowards, man. Including Shearer who's a tenth of the man off the pitch he was on it. He's the absolute definition of 'mealy-mouthed'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 This might get lost in the shit storm of how rubbish we are, but what was with Readings celebrations? He acted like we'd been giving him shit all game, cupping his ears to the crowd, sliding on his knees to the corner etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 This might get lost in the shit storm of how rubbish we are, but what was with Readings celebrations? He acted like we'd been giving him shit all game, cupping his ears to the crowd, sliding on his knees to the corner etc Footballers are twats. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Just got in, been reading this thread on the train though and most of what I want to say has been covered. Today is the first time I've sincerely said I want Pardew out. Seeing his crippling negativity cost us 3 points AT HOME is quite frankly ridiculous. How can we go from dominating the first half to looking like rabbits caught in headlights in the second? Some fucking half time team talk that must have been, christ. The guy breeds negativity, not confidence. We're in a sinking ship with this man in charge, the only thing is I have no faith someone better would be brought in. Finally a positive for me, was lovely to be back in Newcastle after a few years, really love coming up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MW Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Same Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karjala Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Absolutely nothing questioning the manager there. Completely blameless. Surely Shearer saying that it was daft we only had one up front is questioning Pardew? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Absolutely nothing questioning the manager there. Completely blameless. Surely Shearer saying that it was daft we only had one up front is questioning Pardew? I'm on about where we are in the league, not just the starting formation in this match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Absolutely nothing questioning the manager there. Completely blameless. Surely Shearer saying that it was daft we only had one up front is questioning Pardew? He's a law unto himself is ol' Big Al. Just doesn't know when to stop. The Jesse James of the footballing punditry world. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karjala Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 The whole league and even sport is full of bollocks top to bottom, on the pitch and off it. MOTD too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 They never criticise managers on MotD - but think pointing out we no longer have many injuries was an implied criticism. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 If ever a game showed up a manager as having no common sense or tactical awareness, this was it. We were well in charge of the game without actually hammering them, and once Pardew took off Marveaux in favour of Perch, the whole game changed. I was absolutely gob-smacked when I saw this happen because Marveaux was having a decent game and helping to keep their m/f and defence on the hop...once he went, they began to believe they could get something and we threw the game away. Once again, Pardew's cowardly and negative attitude to football has cost us dearly and this was the final insult to the fans..especially in his comments afterwards. I remember Allardyce getting the 'you don't know what you're doing' treatment and this example was possibly even worse. We are now well and truly enmeshed in a totally avoidable relegation battle and on form over the past 5 games, a favourite to go down. Both manager and board are responsible and as the board are not going anywhere, Pardew should, but the arrogant dolts in charge won't have a clue how to get a decent replacement. As to the players, their morale is obviously at rock-bottom - Cisse was somewhat unlucky that he came up against a keeper with a good slice of luck as well as skill, Debuchy gave us some examples of how useful his crosses may have been had he been signed in summer and Cabaye had a good game until he went off, at least trying to lift the side by example...the goal was excellent of course. Anita buzzed around as usual . Hard to see where the next point is coming from - Villa were unlucky not to win midlands derby at WBA and their result will have given them great heart for our encounter with them at Villa Park. The day was superbly topped-off by Remy scoring at WHU for QPR and the Mackems winning again, this time at Wigan. An old-timer I knew well, who had been to Wembley 3 times in the 50s, got so disgusted with NUFC before SJH and KK took over at the club, that he told me 'they should knock SJP down and build flats on it'...... I can now well understand his feelings....glad he's not around to see this shambles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Remember how fun the Championship was though? It will be nothing like that this time, we'll stick down there for a while. Agree - this season has eerie memories for me of 1977-78...just as now, we had qualified for the UEFA by finishing 5th the previous season, just as now, we won our first gane at home against strong opponents(Spurs this time, Leeds in 77), just like this season, the board didn't back the manager in summer(Dinnis wanted to sign Souness from Boro but eventually he went to Liverpool despite wanting to join us) and we ended up getting relegated with the lowest 1st Div points haul we ever had. We ended up sacking Dinnis and bringing in Bill McGarry but it made no difference - we still went down and then lost most of our decent players as a result. We were in Div 2 for FIVE years and I reckon that will happen this time if we go down...last time we went down, the best players stayed bu they won't if we go this time. It took KK as captain, 2 seasons under Cox to bring us back up eventually ...... Anyone STILL think it will be 'fun' in the Championship Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebellious Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 If ever a game showed up a manager as having no common sense or tactical awareness, this was it. We were well in charge of the game without actually hammering them, and once Pardew took off Marveaux in favour of Perch, the whole game changed. I was absolutely gob-smacked when I saw this happen because Marveaux was having a decent game and helping to keep their m/f and defence on the hop...once he went, they began to believe they could get something and we threw the game away. Once again, Pardew's cowardly and negative attitude to football has cost us dearly and this was the final insult to the fans..especially in his comments afterwards. I remember Allardyce getting the 'you don't know what you're doing' treatment and this example was possibly even worse. We are now well and truly enmeshed in a totally avoidable relegation battle and on form over the past 5 games, a favourite to go down. Both manager and board are responsible and as the board are not going anywhere, Pardew should, but the arrogant dolts in charge won't have a clue how to get a decent replacement. As to the players, their morale is obviously at rock-bottom - Cisse was somewhat unlucky that he came up against a keeper with a good slice of luck as well as skill, Debuchy gave us some examples of how useful his crosses may have been had he been signed in summer and Cabaye had a good game until he went off, at least trying to lift the side by example...the goal was excellent of course. Anita buzzed around as usual . Hard to see where the next point is coming from - Villa were unlucky not to win midlands derby at WBA and their result will have given them great heart for our encounter with them at Villa Park. The day was superbly topped-off by Remy scoring at WHU for QPR and the Mackems winning again, this time at Wigan. An old-timer I knew well, who had been to Wembley 3 times in the 50s, got so disgusted with NUFC before SJH and KK took over at the club, that he told me 'they should knock SJP down and build flats on it'...... I can now well understand his feelings....glad he's not around to see this shambles. I think apart from Marv not doing much second half, Perch came on in response to Le Fondre warming up as he has came off the bench and scored a few times recently. So he swapped an attacking midfielder for a defensive as they were preparing to bring on another striker and go for it. So by them going for it, if was a betting man I would bet we had more chance of hanging onto a 1 goal lead than out scoring them with Ameobi and Cisse as attacking threats, similar to what happened to 8th place WBA last week. Le Fondre is not a bad player he scored both goals in there victory over Everton this season, scored and earned a draw at Stoke, scored when they nearly drew with Man Utd, scored against Arsenal, scored twice against Crawley and once last week when they did the same to WBA. I knew it myself when I see him come on we were in trouble. I mean who hasn`t scored past our defence and who has Ameobi and Cisse scored against this season ? Again don`t take this as me saying I wouldn`t welcome a better manager but sometimes there is a reason behind peoples logic that isn`t just down to them being a crap manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Again don`t take this as me saying I wouldn`t welcome a better manager but sometimes there is a reason behind peoples logic that isn`t just down to them being a crap manager. I can see the reasoning in that decision, I just fundamentally disagree with it. We were winning comfortably at home against a side that had only 2 away points all season, and hadn't mustered a shot on target in over an hour. The best way to stop Le Fondre having an impact was to play some positive football and stop him getting the ball anywhere near our goal - I know the players confidence is down but when you see your manager making such negative changes it affects the whole group's mentality, including the crowd. Pardew has been quick to point out that the negative crowd reaction affected the team, but doesn't seem to have made the logical connection that it was his decisions that created that negativity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 He's already explained his rationale for taking Marveaux off, we needed a 'tackle' as they were apparently 'bossing' it all second half. Even if it was for Le Fondre, he's no bloody good man, we're at home to Reading and already playing a defensive midfielder, if they were about to start going for it then that could have left more space for us to capitalise on. Which ever way you look at it, it was a cowardly, illogical and stupid decision. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 anyone know if MA was at the match? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shayno Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 anyone know if MA was at the match? Yes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Absolutely nothing questioning the manager there. Completely blameless. Surely Shearer saying that it was daft we only had one up front is questioning Pardew? Probably the one thing he's sussed the last few months for the most part is that he's starting with the right formation. The fact there's players out of position is neither here nor there but Shearer criticised him for the one thing he has been getting right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 If ever a game showed up a manager as having no common sense or tactical awareness, this was it. We were well in charge of the game without actually hammering them, and once Pardew took off Marveaux in favour of Perch, the whole game changed. I was absolutely gob-smacked when I saw this happen because Marveaux was having a decent game and helping to keep their m/f and defence on the hop...once he went, they began to believe they could get something and we threw the game away. Once again, Pardew's cowardly and negative attitude to football has cost us dearly and this was the final insult to the fans..especially in his comments afterwards. I remember Allardyce getting the 'you don't know what you're doing' treatment and this example was possibly even worse. We are now well and truly enmeshed in a totally avoidable relegation battle and on form over the past 5 games, a favourite to go down. Both manager and board are responsible and as the board are not going anywhere, Pardew should, but the arrogant dolts in charge won't have a clue how to get a decent replacement. As to the players, their morale is obviously at rock-bottom - Cisse was somewhat unlucky that he came up against a keeper with a good slice of luck as well as skill, Debuchy gave us some examples of how useful his crosses may have been had he been signed in summer and Cabaye had a good game until he went off, at least trying to lift the side by example...the goal was excellent of course. Anita buzzed around as usual . Hard to see where the next point is coming from - Villa were unlucky not to win midlands derby at WBA and their result will have given them great heart for our encounter with them at Villa Park. The day was superbly topped-off by Remy scoring at WHU for QPR and the Mackems winning again, this time at Wigan. An old-timer I knew well, who had been to Wembley 3 times in the 50s, got so disgusted with NUFC before SJH and KK took over at the club, that he told me 'they should knock SJP down and build flats on it'...... I can now well understand his feelings....glad he's not around to see this shambles. I think apart from Marv not doing much second half, Perch came on in response to Le Fondre warming up as he has came off the bench and scored a few times recently. So he swapped an attacking midfielder for a defensive as they were preparing to bring on another striker and go for it. So by them going for it, if was a betting man I would bet we had more chance of hanging onto a 1 goal lead than out scoring them with Ameobi and Cisse as attacking threats, similar to what happened to 8th place WBA last week. Le Fondre is not a bad player he scored both goals in there victory over Everton this season, scored and earned a draw at Stoke, scored when they nearly drew with Man Utd, scored against Arsenal, scored twice against Crawley and once last week when they did the same to WBA. I knew it myself when I see him come on we were in trouble. I mean who hasn`t scored past our defence and who has Ameobi and Cisse scored against this season ? Again don`t take this as me saying I wouldn`t welcome a better manager but sometimes there is a reason behind peoples logic that isn`t just down to them being a crap manager. We are at home and worried about Le Fondre coming on so we remove one of our best m/f players ? Do you think KK would have done that ? No - he would have let Reading worry about us.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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