Who would you go for?

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Martinez is the choice if what we want is good quality football. There's no evidence to suggest he'll get us any actual success, but maybe nobody will.

[Guest neesy111]

Martinez is the choice if what we want is good quality football. There's no evidence to suggest he'll get us any actual success, but maybe nobody will.

 

It's just typical NUFC this, when you think we've turned the corner.....

[Wullie]

What would you pick?

 

A) keep Pardew and have a cast iron guarantee that next season would be very similar to last. Defensively organized (other than a couple of pastings), functional but effective, decent at home and away, wins almost always by the odd goal with a lot of backs to the wall stuff but also a month of really good stuff at some point. Finish between 5th and 7th and qualify for the Europa.

 

Or B) Appoint Laudrup/Martinez/Jol/Moyes or some other manager with a decent reputation of playing positive football in the summer and see what happens.

 

Personally I'm a solid B because I cannot bear Pardew's negative ideology and decent results without being amazing aren't enough to change my mind.

 

What would everyone else choose?

[Lotus]

What would you pick?

 

A) keep Pardew and have a cast iron guarantee that next season would be very similar to last. Defensively organized (other than a couple of pastings), functional but effective, decent at home and away, wins almost always by the odd goal with a lot of backs to the wall stuff but also a month of really good stuff at some point. Finish between 5th and 7th and qualify for the Europa.

 

Or B) Appoint Laudrup/Martinez/Jol/Moyes or some other manager with a decent reputation of playing positive football in the summer and see what happens.

 

Personally I'm a solid B because I cannot bear Pardew's negative ideology and decent results without being amazing aren't enough to change my mind.

 

What would everyone else choose?

 

I'm far from certain that we would finish between 5th and 7th next year.

[Wullie]

Obviously. It's hypothetical.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

I would be relatively happy with either of those TBH, my expectations are just to have an enjoyable season that isn't a total mess to experience.

 

If we are going to go with a manager who doesn't have any track record of success (option B), then it would depend heavily on it being someone who played attractive, positive football. For example, I would say no to Moyes on that basis.

[ElDiablo]

The way I see it, if Pardew can take us to 5th-7th then so can someone else, and the future would be a lot brighter under someone like Martinez.

[Magpie]

What would you pick?

 

A) keep Pardew and have a cast iron guarantee that next season would be very similar to last. Defensively organized (other than a couple of pastings), functional but effective, decent at home and away, wins almost always by the odd goal with a lot of backs to the wall stuff but also a month of really good stuff at some point. Finish between 5th and 7th and qualify for the Europa.

 

Or B) Appoint Laudrup/Martinez/Jol/Moyes or some other manager with a decent reputation of playing positive football in the summer and see what happens.

 

Personally I'm a solid B because I cannot bear Pardew's negative ideology and decent results without being amazing aren't enough to change my mind.

 

What would everyone else choose?

 

A massive B all the way for me. Last season was obviously a massive fluke from start to finish and he's well and truly been found out this season.

[merlin]

What would you pick?

 

A) keep Pardew and have a cast iron guarantee that next season would be very similar to last. Defensively organized (other than a couple of pastings), functional but effective, decent at home and away, wins almost always by the odd goal with a lot of backs to the wall stuff but also a month of really good stuff at some point. Finish between 5th and 7th and qualify for the Europa.

 

Or B) Appoint Laudrup/Martinez/Jol/Moyes or some other manager with a decent reputation of playing positive football in the summer and see what happens.

 

Personally I'm a solid B because I cannot bear Pardew's negative ideology and decent results without being amazing aren't enough to change my mind.

 

What would everyone else choose?

 

I agree Wullie - but mainly because I don't think A) is going to be an option anyway.

We would waste another season.

[Deuce]

Whelan could let Martinez go as a goodwill gesture for his past loyalty.

 

Then again, Whelan is a piece of shit that hates Ashley.

[mrmojorisin75]

B by a fucking mile

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Of course, there is also hypothetical option C where we sack Pardew, appoint someone equally or more clueless but who also doesn't have the advantage of being liked by the squad and able to work with the board. Then everything starts to unravel even quicker.

[Al Moody]

Of course, there is also hypothetical option C where we sack Pardew, appoint someone equally or more clueless but who also doesn't have the advantage of being liked by the squad and able to work with the board. Then everything starts to unravel even quicker.

 

Yep

 

I'm leaning toward taking that chance, though.

[Lotus]

Obviously. It's hypothetical.

 

Then that makes it very hard tbqph. Would you really turn down 5th on a punt for someone else? I mean, 5th !!!!!!

[joeyt]

What would you pick?

 

A) keep Pardew and have a cast iron guarantee that next season would be very similar to last. Defensively organized (other than a couple of pastings), functional but effective, decent at home and away, wins almost always by the odd goal with a lot of backs to the wall stuff but also a month of really good stuff at some point. Finish between 5th and 7th and qualify for the Europa.

 

Or B) Appoint Laudrup/Martinez/Jol/Moyes or some other manager with a decent reputation of playing positive football in the summer and see what happens.

 

Personally I'm a solid B because I cannot bear Pardew's negative ideology and decent results without being amazing aren't enough to change my mind.

 

What would everyone else choose?

 

We won more Premier League games last season by more than one goal than by one goal fwiw

[Guest neesy111]

What would you pick?

 

A) keep Pardew and have a cast iron guarantee that next season would be very similar to last. Defensively organized (other than a couple of pastings), functional but effective, decent at home and away, wins almost always by the odd goal with a lot of backs to the wall stuff but also a month of really good stuff at some point. Finish between 5th and 7th and qualify for the Europa.

 

Or B) Appoint Laudrup/Martinez/Jol/Moyes or some other manager with a decent reputation of playing positive football in the summer and see what happens.

 

Personally I'm a solid B because I cannot bear Pardew's negative ideology and decent results without being amazing aren't enough to change my mind.

 

What would everyone else choose?

 

We won more Premier League games last season by more than one goal than by one goal fwiw

 

[Dave]

What would you pick?

 

A) keep Pardew and have a cast iron guarantee that next season would be very similar to last. Defensively organized (other than a couple of pastings), functional but effective, decent at home and away, wins almost always by the odd goal with a lot of backs to the wall stuff but also a month of really good stuff at some point. Finish between 5th and 7th and qualify for the Europa.

 

Or B) Appoint Laudrup/Martinez/Jol/Moyes or some other manager with a decent reputation of playing positive football in the summer and see what happens.

 

Personally I'm a solid B because I cannot bear Pardew's negative ideology and decent results without being amazing aren't enough to change my mind.

 

What would everyone else choose?

 

We won more Premier League games last season by more than one goal than by one goal fwiw

 

 

The brass neck on you.

 

Anyway, I think I'd go with option A then bin Pardew for someone better with the club/squad better positioned to progress.

[joeyt]

Whats wrong with that?

 

We won more games last year in the Premier League by scoring 2 or 3 more than the opposition than just by an 'odd goal'

[Guest neesy111]

What would you pick?

 

A) keep Pardew and have a cast iron guarantee that next season would be very similar to last. Defensively organized (other than a couple of pastings), functional but effective, decent at home and away, wins almost always by the odd goal with a lot of backs to the wall stuff but also a month of really good stuff at some point. Finish between 5th and 7th and qualify for the Europa.

 

Or B) Appoint Laudrup/Martinez/Jol/Moyes or some other manager with a decent reputation of playing positive football in the summer and see what happens.

 

Personally I'm a solid B because I cannot bear Pardew's negative ideology and decent results without being amazing aren't enough to change my mind.

 

What would everyone else choose?

 

We won more Premier League games last season by more than one goal than by one goal fwiw

 

 

The brass neck on you.

 

I know my spelling and grammar can be absolutely dreadful at times.  Sometimes I need to dish it out after receiving it.

 

Edit:  That makes sense now after reading it again.

 

[Guest neesy111]

Whats wrong with that?

 

We won more games last year in the Premier League by scoring 2 or 3 more than the opposition than just by an 'odd goal'

 

It makes sense now.  Just doesn't read nice imo.

[mrmojorisin75]

will ask here as it got lost in the pardew thread, is zola any good?

[TRon]

Of course, there is also hypothetical option C where we sack Pardew, appoint someone equally or more clueless but who also doesn't have the advantage of being liked by the squad and able to work with the board. Then everything starts to unravel even quicker.

 

The board will only appoint someone they can work with so that scenario's a false one. As for the players liking pardew, I think a lot of them would far rather have a manager who makes best use of their talent.

[Ryan_Taylor]

Moyes as a pipedream.

 

Martinez because he plays better football, is used to having sod all to spend, is much less of a cunt and it'd do Dave Whelan in.

[Guest icemanblue]

Of course, there is also hypothetical option C where we sack Pardew, appoint someone equally or more clueless but who also doesn't have the advantage of being liked by the squad and able to work with the board. Then everything starts to unravel even quicker.

 

The board will only appoint someone they can work with so that scenario's a false one. As for the players liking pardew, I think a lot of them would far rather have a manager who makes best use of their talent.

 

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[jdckelly]

hard to say, he did alright at West Ham in difficult circumstances with the takeover and the porn barons basically undermining him at every possible opportunity and got sacked for keeping them up and replaced by someone who got relegated that season and relegated them the next season. Watford is whats really hard to call, he'd done well to get them 3rd obviously but how much is down to the level of players they have on loan no one else in the division could reasonably be expected to be able to get.