loki679 Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 This opinion might be a little optimistic and bases entirely on hope but I don't think we're such an ugly prospect for a young manager with ambition. Assuming we stay up Mike will have to spend some decent money even just to get the club back to a safe midtable position. I also don't think the squad is too bad, we've just been left woefully under staffed with a group of coaches with absolutely no tactical know how. If you look at all of the other relegation contenders there's not many from those squads who you'd think will definitely be on the move in the summer. Even if you just take a few players from the squad like Krul, Tiote, Perez, Cabella, Sissoko and Janmaat we have a fairly talented core of players that have performed at two or three times the level of what they're currently producing. Couple that with that fact that if we do stay up we will have an absolutely abhorrent points total while producing some of the most turgid ineffective football going. It wouldn't be too hard for someone to come in who has even the slightest element of tactical know how and make themselves look very impressive. Obviously this is solely dependent on staying up and Mike spending to keep us in the league next year. Neither are certainties. Dat mid-table. Man, if we get someone half decent we might even get as high as eighth. Fucking hell, as long as we avoid europe and the cups and anything designed to incite even the vaguest spark of excitement we might be able to get paid play in the bestest league in the world for years. I'm positively jizzing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 This opinion might be a little optimistic and bases entirely on hope but I don't think we're such an ugly prospect for a young manager with ambition. Assuming we stay up Mike will have to spend some decent money even just to get the club back to a safe midtable position. I also don't think the squad is too bad, we've just been left woefully under staffed with a group of coaches with absolutely no tactical know how. If you look at all of the other relegation contenders there's not many from those squads who you'd think will definitely be on the move in the summer. Even if you just take a few players from the squad like Krul, Tiote, Perez, Cabella, Sissoko and Janmaat we have a fairly talented core of players that have performed at two or three times the level of what they're currently producing. Couple that with that fact that if we do stay up we will have an absolutely abhorrent points total while producing some of the most turgid ineffective football going. It wouldn't be too hard for someone to come in who has even the slightest element of tactical know how and make themselves look very impressive. Obviously this is solely dependent on staying up and Mike spending to keep us in the league next year. Neither are certainties. Dat mid-table. Man, if we get someone half decent we might even get as high as eighth. f***ing hell, as long as we avoid europe and the cups and anything designed to incite even the vaguest spark of excitement we might be able to get paid play in the bestest league in the world for years. I'm positively jizzing. If you guaranteed me 3 more seasons of midtable finishes and no cup runs or relegation and eff knows what... i'd take the relegation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 This opinion might be a little optimistic and bases entirely on hope but I don't think we're such an ugly prospect for a young manager with ambition. Assuming we stay up Mike will have to spend some decent money even just to get the club back to a safe midtable position. I also don't think the squad is too bad, we've just been left woefully under staffed with a group of coaches with absolutely no tactical know how. If you look at all of the other relegation contenders there's not many from those squads who you'd think will definitely be on the move in the summer. Even if you just take a few players from the squad like Krul, Tiote, Perez, Cabella, Sissoko and Janmaat we have a fairly talented core of players that have performed at two or three times the level of what they're currently producing. Couple that with that fact that if we do stay up we will have an absolutely abhorrent points total while producing some of the most turgid ineffective football going. It wouldn't be too hard for someone to come in who has even the slightest element of tactical know how and make themselves look very impressive. Obviously this is solely dependent on staying up and Mike spending to keep us in the league next year. Neither are certainties. Dat mid-table. Man, if we get someone half decent we might even get as high as eighth. f***ing hell, as long as we avoid europe and the cups and anything designed to incite even the vaguest spark of excitement we might be able to get paid play in the bestest league in the world for years. I'm positively jizzing. If you guaranteed me 3 more seasons of midtable finishes and no cup runs or relegation and eff knows what... i'd take the relegation. Yep, absolute no-brainer. Ambition to get out of the Championship or mundane seasons of nothingness in the Premier League. Give me the Championship any day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 But by wanting to get out the Championship, you're aiming for future mundane nothingness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 But by wanting to get out the Championship, you're aiming for future mundane nothingness. Guess who wins again! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 But by wanting to get out the Championship, you're aiming for future mundane nothingness. Yeah exactly I just can't understand this way of thinking. It's mental Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 This opinion might be a little optimistic and bases entirely on hope but I don't think we're such an ugly prospect for a young manager with ambition. Assuming we stay up Mike will have to spend some decent money even just to get the club back to a safe midtable position. I also don't think the squad is too bad, we've just been left woefully under staffed with a group of coaches with absolutely no tactical know how. If you look at all of the other relegation contenders there's not many from those squads who you'd think will definitely be on the move in the summer. Even if you just take a few players from the squad like Krul, Tiote, Perez, Cabella, Sissoko and Janmaat we have a fairly talented core of players that have performed at two or three times the level of what they're currently producing. Couple that with that fact that if we do stay up we will have an absolutely abhorrent points total while producing some of the most turgid ineffective football going. It wouldn't be too hard for someone to come in who has even the slightest element of tactical know how and make themselves look very impressive. Obviously this is solely dependent on staying up and Mike spending to keep us in the league next year. Neither are certainties. Dat mid-table. Man, if we get someone half decent we might even get as high as eighth. f***ing hell, as long as we avoid europe and the cups and anything designed to incite even the vaguest spark of excitement we might be able to get paid play in the bestest league in the world for years. I'm positively jizzing. If you guaranteed me 3 more seasons of midtable finishes and no cup runs or relegation and eff knows what... i'd take the relegation. Yep, absolute no-brainer. Ambition to get out of the Championship or mundane seasons of nothingness in the Premier League. Give me the Championship any day. I kind of meant in more in the sense that it isn't unrealistic for a half decent manager to come in and achieve that hence we wouldn't be so untouchable as a football club as some people would imagine rather than the 'I want to be a safe-midtable premier league club that has no ambition'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest antz1uk Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Looks like Galtier is staying at St Ettienne Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinport53 Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Looks like Galtier is staying at St Ettienne How can we sign a new manager when they are always employed :'( Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 At this rate, there will only be one name left from that list of candidates back in January. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 But by wanting to get out the Championship, you're aiming for future mundane nothingness. Yeah exactly I just can't understand this way of thinking. It's mental This way of thinking gives you at least one season of ambition and something to try and win. The other way is the endless quest for 45 points and nothing more over and over and over and over again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Toon Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Rumour has it McClaren might be in for the chop at Derby, I hate to think what that means. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Rumour has it McClaren might be in for the chop at Derby, I hate to think what that means. But by wanting to get out the Championship, you're aiming for future mundane nothingness. Yeah exactly I just can't understand this way of thinking. It's mental This way of thinking gives you at least one season of ambition and something to try and win. The other way is the endless quest for 45 points and nothing more over and over and over and over again. Still not sold on it. Getting out of championship isn't ambition Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EthiGeordie Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 I am pretty sure it is McLaran he will keep Carver as his assistant. Normal service resume. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Rumour has it McClaren might be in for the chop at Derby, I hate to think what that means. He blew us out too. Would probably come if we stay up though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Rumour has it McClaren might be in for the chop at Derby, I hate to think what that means. He blew us out too. Would probably come if we stay up though. Not sure Ashley takes kindly to rejection. I can't see it happening now. It's going to be Carver as it's the cheapest option. If he goes in the future then it'll be Stone or Beardsley. I'm actually surprised he hasn't given a 'senior' player the role as a player/coach. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Rumour has it McClaren might be in for the chop at Derby, I hate to think what that means. But by wanting to get out the Championship, you're aiming for future mundane nothingness. Yeah exactly I just can't understand this way of thinking. It's mental This way of thinking gives you at least one season of ambition and something to try and win. The other way is the endless quest for 45 points and nothing more over and over and over and over again. Still not sold on it. Getting out of championship isn't ambition Whey, we can aim for 8th - 17th again and go out of the cups as quickly as possible, eh? Much better, at least my company gets loads of exposure and I get to rake in millions of Sky money. Fuck, no, I get to be bored senseless watching a pointless advertising vehicle not compete. Never mind. HSDU. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/watford-anxious-over-manager-slavisa-jokanovics-future-amid-newcastle-united-and-sunderland-links-10266741.html Slavisa Jokanovic. If Watford can't / won't pay his wages, then it's a total non-starter imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Just had a look cause I genuinely couldnt remember the last foreign manager we had, and it was Gullit in 98/99 Other than that, we had Ardiles in 91/92. What's the problem with foreign managers? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Slavisa Jokanovic! Loved him as a player. How come Watford can't afford him with all the PL money pouring in? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Just had a look cause I genuinely couldnt remember the last foreign manager we had, and it was Gullit in 98/99 Other than that, we had Ardiles in 91/92. What's the problem with foreign managers? Foreigners don't understand the club and the Northeast, whereas men like Carver do. Results clearly show this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Three names in the frame according to tomorrow's Journal: Remi Garde Steve McClaren John Carver Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Even our rumours are the same old shit time after time until you don't care anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Three names in the frame according to tomorrow's Journal: Remi Garde Steve McClaren John Carver http://i.imgur.com/EJYqBQM.gif?1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Three names in the frame according to tomorrow's Journal: Remi Garde Steve McClaren John Carver Garde would be mad to come. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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