Dave Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Well I still disagree, Sibierski was absolute desperation stuff when we signed him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 France national team could use a bit of a hard working all-around player that can be a goal threat. The Euros they took a shocking number of midfielders and did fuck all. I'm talking with wayyyy too much bias mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Well I still disagree, Sibierski was absolute desperation stuff when we signed him. and we weren't desperate when we signed gouffran ? i know what you mean like but different circumstances. I just mean totally unheralded and wins people over with a work rate that they weren't known for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Well not really. There was a week left in the transfer window and he had a near one in two goalscoring record for the season at that point. A 26 year old on a four year contract. Sibierski was 32, shite and signed with hours left on a one year deal. It was a joke. I get your general point, but I still think you're overrating Sibierski and underrating Gouffran. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Well I still disagree, Sibierski was absolute desperation stuff when we signed him. Yeah, I mean Gouffran was starting upfront for Bordeaux and banging in a goal every two games for them. While we signed Sibierski off the street I believe. Wasn't he handing out leaflets in Manchester or something when he got the call from us? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Don't think I've ever been more disappointed with a signing than I was with Sibierski. I know we went down amidst circumstances the likes of which, hopefully, will never be seen again, but it really was the pits under Souness and Roeder n'all. Hated pretty much every second of it. Sibierski and Bernard on that particular deadline day. We might have even scored a few more goals that year if Roeder had any idea what he had in Rossi. N'Zogbia out in the cold too (in favour of Duff!) Guh. Obviously, Le Sib went on to be a reasonable player for us, particularly when you consider the expectations. Just an all-round classy player and bloke, though extremely limited. Clearly fucking loved the Toon, n'all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Well not really. There was a week left in the transfer window and he had a near one in two goalscoring record for the season at that point. A 26 year old on a four year contract. Sibierski was 32, s**** and signed with hours left on a one year deal. It was a joke. I get your general point, but I still think you're overrating Sibierski and underrating Gouffran. i'll settle for that mutters "he's fucking hard work that dave like" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Makes the most of his ability. Consummate professional and smart footballer. Great guy to have at the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Just love this guy's attitude to the game and for someone who is performing the "willing work horse" role his goal scoring is very impressive. Can we consider him as our goal threat from midfield or is he just a "lost forward". Whatever but long may it continue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Well I still disagree, Sibierski was absolute desperation stuff when we signed him. Yep. Horrible summer that one full stop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 The french Kevin Gallacher/ Peter Lovenkrands only better. Love his attitude. Not seen anyone play for the team as much as this guy does for a while now. Dat composure to get out of the pickle in the corner Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 The french Kevin Gallacher/ Peter Lovenkrands only better. Love his attitude. Not seen anyone play for the team as much as this guy does for a while now. Dat composure to get out of the pickle in the corner This is exactly the point I tried to make earlier. He is far far better than a Gallagher or Lovenkrands. Because he works so hard, people lump him in with limited hard working players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TherealnorthernTOON Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 For all his plusses I think he lacks that final little touch in the dribbling department. Don't really know why, because he seems fast enough and agile enough to slip past players, but seldom takes the dribble on. If he would add that to his game he would be a 12-15 million striker though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 The french Kevin Gallacher/ Peter Lovenkrands only better. Love his attitude. Not seen anyone play for the team as much as this guy does for a while now. Dat composure to get out of the pickle in the corner This is exactly the point I tried to make earlier. He is far far better than a Gallagher or Lovenkrands. Because he works so hard, people lump him in with limited hard working players. Only lumping him in with them because he was cheap as chips, as they were, and none were expected to shake the earth for us, but ended up making great positive contributions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Gouffran cost like £2m, he's one of the most expensive strikers Ashley has ever signed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Such a reliable player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 He's not a poor player who works his arse off to make up for his deficiencies, he's a good player who works his arse off. Proper love him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Sibierski--Lovenkrands--Gallacher---------------------------Gouffran----------------------------------------Bellamy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Is about right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Sibierski--Lovenkrands--Gallacher---------------------------Gouffran----------------------------------------Bellamy Showed up as a rather scary 3-1-1 formation on my phone About right though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Mags Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Sibierski--Lovenkrands--Gallacher---------------------------Gouffran----------------------------------------Bellamy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Think he's a bit closer to Bellamy tbh. Goals wise he has the potential to get you Bellamy's 10 or so and this is coming from playing outwide. He's nowhere near the danger Bellamy was with the ball at his feet though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Bellamy was a massive influence on the field with his mouth. Him being a mouthy cunt was a good thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezertron Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Y'all are forgetting Pancrate! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 He's a grafter and I've got all the time in the world for grafters. Works hard, protects his full back, can do a bit on the ball, chips in with the odd goal here and there and doesn't whinge when he's not playing. A million quid? Fucking bargain, good on him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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