Dr.Spaceman Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/04/25/chelseas-dominic-solanke-demands-50000-per-week/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest antz1uk Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Why on earth have west brom not got their badge on the away shirt and instead some awful school needlework lookalike stitching instead? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 So, who in the fuck is Renato Sanches? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucaAltieri Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Benfica midfielder. Massively overrated (based on the couple of games I've seen him play). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Bendtner has his contract cancelled by Wolfsburg. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 BREAKINGQUESTION 6: Determination on unlawful killing issue Posted at 11:13 Are you satisfied, so that you are sure, that those who died in the disaster were unlawfully killed? Yes or no. Yes Hillsborough inquest decision. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Posted at 11:14 Was there any behaviour on the part of the football supporters which caused or contributed to the dangerous situation at the Leppings Lane turnstiles? Yes or no. No. Was there any behaviour on the part of the football supporters which may have caused or contributed to the dangerous situation at the Leppings Lane turnstiles? Yes or no. No. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Great news for the families, glad they finally have closure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Pretty much sounds like jury think what Ive always believed, policing and stadium design/ safety were the cause of the 96 deaths. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Great news for the families, glad they finally have closure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankpingel Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Anyone who'd been to Hillsborough in the eighties knew what had happened. Some ( most) police forces treat all football supporters as criminals and animals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpie Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 So have I always been wrong in believing that quite a lot of Liverpool fans climbed over the wall without a ticket? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankpingel Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Point 7 of inquest states fans were in no way to blame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Anyone who'd been to Hillsborough in the eighties knew what had happened. Some ( most) police forces treat all football supporters as criminals and animals. Please expand on this. Genuinely interested. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 So have I always been wrong in believing that quite a lot of Liverpool fans climbed over the wall without a ticket? Which wall? I thought the influx of people that caused the crush was through the gate the coppers opened. A very similar thing nearly happened to us at White Hart Lane in 1987 http://www.themag.co.uk/2012/09/hillsborough-it-could-have-been-newcastles-tragedy/ http://www.themag.co.uk/2012/09/video-when-newcastle-came-close-to-a-hillsborough/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankpingel Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Football fans were considered an underclass and not worthy of the normal duty of care the wider public experienced. For instance we would be packed onto trains without seats to away games despite paying normal prices. I've loads of stories from first hand of being hit by truncheons, pushed violently by police officers whilst simply walking to a ground. It was a different experience entirely to now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 (the familes are) like a blind man, in a dark room, looking for a black cat that isn't there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfella Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Football fans were considered an underclass and not worthy of the normal duty of care the wider public experienced. For instance we would be packed onto trains without seats to away games despite paying normal prices. I've loads of stories from first hand of being hit by truncheons, pushed violently by police officers whilst simply walking to a ground. It was a different experience entirely to now. Yep, seen all this and more. Some police forces were worse than others, you always had to be wary in south Yorkshire and the West Midlands. Seen young lads on their way to a match at Bramhall Lane twatted with truncheons for the crime of walking across a road. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Anyone who'd been to Hillsborough in the eighties knew what had happened. Some ( most) police forces treat all football supporters as criminals and animals. Please expand on this. Genuinely interested. its spot on that statement btw. went to Hillsborough one time mid 80s, went on normal bus service- not supporters coaches, getting off at Sheffield we were put in police vans, and literally herded into a giant pen at the back of the leppings lane end, this was the morning btw maybe 10am, we had done nothing wrong. we were held there with no food no drink no toilets until the gate to the match were opened. sheff utd- 90 promotion game, stopped vans driving into Sheffield and escorted us all back to Durham, despite having tickets and no offence had been commited, other than maybe shouldn't carry people in vans. Was also at that spurs game- 87,got separated from my dad, I watched the game from the top of a fence as there was no room on the terracing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 So have I always been wrong in believing that quite a lot of Liverpool fans climbed over the wall without a ticket? The tale told at the time was that fans without tickets had forced open a gate. The Chief Superintendent in charge has since admitted to the inquest that he personally lied to the chairman of the FA about that (which is how the media then reported it), and that he was the one who gave the order to open the gate, allowing far too many fans into the area at once and ultimately causing the crush. CPS say they'll now be considering criminal charges. It's a pity they can't start with that massive cunt Kelvin McKenzie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
summerof69 Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 So have I always been wrong in believing that quite a lot of Liverpool fans climbed over the wall without a ticket? The tale told at the time was that fans without tickets had forced open a gate. The Chief Superintendent in charge has since admitted to the inquest that he personally lied to the chairman of the FA about that (which is how the media then reported it), and that he was the one who gave the order to open the gate, allowing far too many fans into the area at once and ultimately causing the crush. CPS say they'll now be considering criminal charges. It's a pity they can't start with that massive c*** Kelvin McKenzie. Absolutely staggering that papers and broadcasters, still give him the time of day Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 The Best Team In England Will Not Win The Premier League It’s a difficult thing to pin down, which English team is better than the rest. That’s because the defining characteristic of this remarkable season has been complete chaos. Usually, the points table is as definitive of a statement about top-to-bottom quality and consistency as there is in sports. The best team, usually armed with the league’s best roster of players, will more often than not have its superiority slowly but surely borne out in the results of the 38 fixtures that make up the EPL calendar. Yet it feels like this is not quite the case this season, when Leicester City have sat atop the league for so long, outlasting everyone’s belief that their carriage would turn back into a pumpkin eventually, now only needing three points from three games to become champions of England for the first time in the club’s 132 year history. A variety of factors have played into Leicester’s Cinderella run, allowing them to outrace even the most optimistic of projections: the unforeseen emergence of players like Riyad Mahrez (who on Sunday was voted by his fellow players the league’s player of the year), Jamie Vardy, and N’Golo Kanté, who are all legitimate stars; the league’s lack of tactical sophistication, where a team with a well-coordinated, intense-pressing deep block and an emphasis on counterattacks could routinely face opponents that played right into their hands; their freedom from burdensome non-league matches that weigh down starters’ legs, allowing them to create the kind of team-wide instinctual thinking that comes from playing alongside the same teammates every week; many of the usual favorites enduring down years; and flat-out good luck, with shots of theirs finding the net that would normally hit the post, shots of opponents hitting the crossbar that would normally touch twine, and eking out 1-0 wins in largely even affairs. Sift through any number of advanced stats and the numbers support what our eyes have seen, that Leicester are a truly good team that we nonetheless wouldn’t expect to wind up champions. This should take nothing away from the Foxes, but it’s worth saying: this season of theirs, for a whole host of reasons, has been really, really lucky. If not Leicester, then, who can stake a better claim as England’s best? Arsenal, despite their totally typical late-season collapse, have played some of their best soccer for extended periods this year, did appear to be title favorites for a while, have great advanced stats (they led the league in Michael Caley’s expected goals difference formula), and with players like Mesut Özil and Alexis Sánchez, they have arguably the two best players in the whole league leading a squad full of good-to-great players. Still, their lack of consistency and the pitiful way they’ve crumbled ever since that huge win against Leicester back in February means they can’t honestly be considered the league’s best. Manchester City could argue that they’re the class of England. They stormed out of the gate and put together a couple months of top-class play that had us thinking they would pull a 2014-15 Chelsea and lead the title race from wire to wire. And while they’ve continually stumbled in league play since that great start, they are one of the four teams still standing in the Champions League. Who knows what a full, healthy season out of Kevin De Bruyne would’ve meant for City’s title credentials? Holding them back from serious consideration as England’s best, though, are those stumbles in the league, many of which have been self-inflicted due to a complete lack of defensive structure or awareness. Man City have the best roster in England; that they weren’t able to parlay that into another title is too big a blemish to be overlooked. That brings us to Tottenham, the only other team that’s been consistently good enough this season to earn a place in the conversation. This team has no flaws. Their attack, consisting of Harry Kane and Christian Eriksen and Érik Lamela, is young, dynamic, and fearsome, all in a complementary way. Their central midfield is the best in the country, with Eric Dier providing the defensive shield, Mousa Dembélé taking the ball from deep and scything his way into more advanced positions with his strange but unstoppable dribbling style, and Dele Alli cutting through the final layer of defenses. Spurs’ defense is elite, their goalkeeper is great, and their bench is strong, to boot. And maybe most importantly, they have a brilliant manager who has implemented a sophisticated tactical scheme that, like with Leicester’s, the rest of the league has yet to figure out how to cope with. It’s quite easy to make the case that Tottenham are the best team in England this season over Leicester, in spite of the seven-point gap that separates them in the table. (Or, looked at another way, it’s easier to imagine Spurs fighting for one of the league’s top spots next season than it is Leicester, even if the Foxes were to retain all their players.) Tottenham’s Big Three (Kane, Alli, and either Dembélé or Eriksen) at the very least stands right up against Leicester’s; everywhere else, Tottenham are better. Tottenham’s top-level stats are better (they’ve scored more and conceded fewer), their underlying ones are considerably better, they have been observably more dominant, and yet, they almost certainly will not be winning the title. Tottenham suffered what is likely the penultimate death blow to their title hopes yesterday, when Spurs settled for a draw against West Brom. The first half went exactly as Tottenham expected. They cut through the Baggies’ defense at will and only some bad luck, like a few shots hitting the woodwork instead of the back of the net, kept them from leading by more than one at halftime. Tottenham would pay for failing to press their advantage when they had it, though, as West Brom came out much stronger in the second half and scored a deserving equalizer late on. Tottenham’s only realistic shot at catching Leicester involved them winning out, and this draw put their title rivals just one win away from the trophy. Games like yesterday’s, and Spurs’ lack of fortune when attempting to turn those types of close games into wins, are likely why Tottenham won’t end the season as champions, even if they can make the strongest case for being the league’s best team. Tottenham opened the campaign by failing to win any of their first four matches, each one of which could’ve easily been three points with a little more luck. Win just a couple of those matches—which included a 1-1 draw against Leicester—and score one of the three shots that hit the woodwork yesterday, and it’s quite possible we’d now be talking about Tottenham’s wondrous whirlwind title season instead of Leicester’s. Tottenham may have the better team, but Leicester have had the luck. And even in the Premier League, where the table is the closest thing to a truly meritocratic determiner of the country’s best team, luck can still make enough of a difference. Given how enjoyable Leicester’s magic has been to watch, maybe we spectators are the lucky ones. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Good thing is it doesn't make any difference to anyone who is the 'best team', Leicester are taking home the trophy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 If you win the league with two games to spare, as Leicester might this weekend, you're the best team in the league without question Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Take away all their good players and they would be nowt tho. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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