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Depressing read, like. It's a massive worry how adamant our journos are (other than Ryder, obvs) that it's him letting us down.

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For the man who claimed he could pick up the phone to any manager in the Premier League, the day of reckoning is fast approaching.

 

Joe Kinnear has 17 days left to do the absolute minimum required of him when he was appointed in mid-June and sign a replacement for Demba Ba. If he doesn’t, September 2 will be a mightily uncomfortable day for Newcastle’s director of football.

 

For all Kinnear’s bellicose bluff and bluster, he cannot escape the accountability of modern-day Premier League football. If managers don’t deliver results, they are for the high jump. Players who don’t perform are shipped out, while even managing directors who mis-step find themselves looking for work eventually.

 

For a director of football who proclaimed himself a guru, the buck stops with supplying the players who might aid Newcastle’s bid to challenge for European competition again. Fail to do it and he will be held to account.

 

The blundering chase for Darren Bent does not augur well. For Newcastle to be presented with a player who wants to sign for them and stumble is bad enough, to then try and revive the deal when it is almost over the line with Fulham is a worrying sign of a fundamentally flawed approach.

 

At the moment, this remains something of a friendly reminder to Kinnear – who has certainly made his presence known among the footballing fraternity. He still has time, but the situation is becoming urgent.

 

Newcastle’s best bet seems to be a late rush of business, perhaps prompted by the movement of Gareth Bale, Wayne Rooney or Luis Suarez, because at the moment Kinnear is failing to play the modern transfer market. Agents ring daily offering players and, for the club’s director of football, out of the game since 2009, it has required a crash course in modern football culture simply to get through the summer.

 

A personal observation is that Mike Ashley handed him an impossible job when, over a few drinks in one of their Totteridge locals, he offered Kinnear the over-arching role of director of football at St James’ Park. It is difficult enough for someone with an in-depth knowledge of the modern game to negotiate the cut-throat and dispiriting world of the summer transfer window, but for Kinnear it is close to impossible.

 

Agents seemed to have sensed that, and  links with players Newcastle dismissed months ago are a sign that their influence is beginning to creep back at St James’ Park. The uncertainty at Newcastle is encouraging agents to use the club to market their players once again – a depressing development.

 

The buck stops at sympathy, however. Kinnear knew exactly what he was letting himself in for, and all the bluster of those early summer months – that guff about knowing more about football than anyone else at St James’ Park – was proof that this is a man who is not backwards about coming forwards. So here is the situation as we stood yesterday. Newcastle have missed out on Darren Bent and Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang, two players they made approaches for earlier in the summer. Their move for Bafetimbi Gomis has collapsed too, despite the club being willing to meet Lyon’s exaggerated value.

 

Given the months of diligent work that has gone into picking these players, it is extremely worrying. It is also bordering on unacceptable at a club that flirted outrageously with relegation last season.

 

There is money to spend, as we have seen from the dogged chase of Bafetimbi Gomis. Something is stopping them from spending it.

 

As director of football, the buck stops with Kinnear – who has reminded a few people at St James’ Park that he is answerable to no-one but Ashley at St James’ Park. The questions become more searching by the day.

 

The most unsolvable of mysteries.

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Depressing read, like. It's a massive worry how adamant our journos are (other than Ryder, obvs) that it's him letting us down.

 

I find it hard to believe they know much about it, although the conclusion is probably not far off even if it's guesswork.

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Depressing read, like. It's a massive worry how adamant our journos are (other than Ryder, obvs) that it's him letting us down.

 

I find it hard to believe they know much about it, although the conclusion is probably not far off even if it's guesswork.

 

They'll know more than us, that's for sure. We're guessing, but they'll be basing it off their club sources.

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Depressing read, like. It's a massive worry how adamant our journos are (other than Ryder, obvs) that it's him letting us down.

 

I find it hard to believe they know much about it, although the conclusion is probably not far off even if it's guesswork.

 

This summer is a glorified version of last summer.

 

Kinnear is a ridiculous and ludicrous person to finalise transfers, but Ashley will have known that when he appointed him and will no doubt be comfortable with it knowing little will likely get done in the market.

 

It's all Ashley, everything bad seeping through this club is down to him.

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Depressing read, like. It's a massive worry how adamant our journos are (other than Ryder, obvs) that it's him letting us down.

 

I find it hard to believe they know much about it, although the conclusion is probably not far off even if it's guesswork.

 

This summer is a glorified version of last summer.

 

Kinnear is a ridiculous and ludicrous person to finalise transfers, but Ashley will have known that when he appointed him and will no doubt be comfortable with it knowing little will likely get done in the market.

 

It's all Ashley, everything bad seeping through this club is down to him.

 

There's no getting around it, Ashley has hired two cheap and cheerful "out of contract" personnel to manage the club at recruitment and first team management level. If they fail to step up and provide solutions then the buck stops with Ashley. It's like buying a Rolls Royce and hiring Gazza to be the chauffeur.

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For the man who claimed he could pick up the phone to any manager in the Premier League, the day of reckoning is fast approaching.

 

Joe Kinnear has 17 days left to do the absolute minimum required of him when he was appointed in mid-June and sign a replacement for Demba Ba. If he doesn’t, September 2 will be a mightily uncomfortable day for Newcastle’s director of football.

 

For all Kinnear’s bellicose bluff and bluster, he cannot escape the accountability of modern-day Premier League football. If managers don’t deliver results, they are for the high jump. Players who don’t perform are shipped out, while even managing directors who mis-step find themselves looking for work eventually.

 

For a director of football who proclaimed himself a guru, the buck stops with supplying the players who might aid Newcastle’s bid to challenge for European competition again. Fail to do it and he will be held to account.

 

The blundering chase for Darren Bent does not augur well. For Newcastle to be presented with a player who wants to sign for them and stumble is bad enough, to then try and revive the deal when it is almost over the line with Fulham is a worrying sign of a fundamentally flawed approach.

 

At the moment, this remains something of a friendly reminder to Kinnear – who has certainly made his presence known among the footballing fraternity. He still has time, but the situation is becoming urgent.

 

Newcastle’s best bet seems to be a late rush of business, perhaps prompted by the movement of Gareth Bale, Wayne Rooney or Luis Suarez, because at the moment Kinnear is failing to play the modern transfer market. Agents ring daily offering players and, for the club’s director of football, out of the game since 2009, it has required a crash course in modern football culture simply to get through the summer.

 

A personal observation is that Mike Ashley handed him an impossible job when, over a few drinks in one of their Totteridge locals, he offered Kinnear the over-arching role of director of football at St James’ Park. It is difficult enough for someone with an in-depth knowledge of the modern game to negotiate the cut-throat and dispiriting world of the summer transfer window, but for Kinnear it is close to impossible.

 

Agents seemed to have sensed that, and  links with players Newcastle dismissed months ago are a sign that their influence is beginning to creep back at St James’ Park. The uncertainty at Newcastle is encouraging agents to use the club to market their players once again – a depressing development.

 

The buck stops at sympathy, however. Kinnear knew exactly what he was letting himself in for, and all the bluster of those early summer months – that guff about knowing more about football than anyone else at St James’ Park – was proof that this is a man who is not backwards about coming forwards. So here is the situation as we stood yesterday. Newcastle have missed out on Darren Bent and Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang, two players they made approaches for earlier in the summer. Their move for Bafetimbi Gomis has collapsed too, despite the club being willing to meet Lyon’s exaggerated value.

 

Given the months of diligent work that has gone into picking these players, it is extremely worrying. It is also bordering on unacceptable at a club that flirted outrageously with relegation last season.

 

There is money to spend, as we have seen from the dogged chase of Bafetimbi Gomis. Something is stopping them from spending it.

 

As director of football, the buck stops with Kinnear – who has reminded a few people at St James’ Park that he is answerable to no-one but Ashley at St James’ Park. The questions become more searching by the day.

 

Who's shocked?

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I see Mick Harford is doing a great job at Millwall , lost both games, scored no goals, conceded four and by all accounts playing some horrible hoofball

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