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Sunderland getting relegated? It's all we have left to play for this season...

 

Hopefully Carroll/Nolan or both to score on monday aswell!

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Nah, no way they stay up nah, not from here simply because teams like Crystal Palace, Cardiff etc (the teams around them) are showing a far greater desire to drag their clubs out of the mess in which they've got themselves into. What I see of Sundo suggests that the players only raise their games when playing the 'top' teams as they want to get noticed for a move in the summer, Borini especially (or a more prominent role at L'pool). When they play the teams around them they still think, even at this stage of the season that they have to simply turn up and win, and that will be the death of them.

 

I'd say most of their squad knows they won't be there next season and as such they have mentally left the building, they just don't care about keeping Sundo up, they care about giving a nice turn every now and then to woo some suitors but their hearts are certainly not in Sundo. Watching their home games there is just so much pressure on them to attack all the time. If a backpass is played you'll hear boos ringing out. I think Gus is a bit naive if he thinks he's going to get players like Catto, Colbo, Alto and Larsso playing the free flowing game he prefers. The fans start bewing if the ball isn't in the oppositions final third at all times and it creates nervousness in the players. Do they want to be a hoofball team?

 

But let's think about this for a moment, why would the players care about that club? From top to bottom the club is toxic. The fans hate the players for being lazy wasters, the players hate the fans for bewing at the slighest opportunity and their overactive imaginations with regards to their standing as a club. The manager hates the fans for not giving him enough time, the players don't like or trust the manager because he chops and changes so often and comes out with comments that they don't like (i.e. the truth). The fans hate the manager for telling them how it is and bottling the FA cup. Finally, the fans hate each other because, well I don't really know it's just in their makeup to be aggressive towards anyone who questions their superior worldview. It is not a 'together' club and each person from top to bottom is out for themselves. Gus is only using them as a stepping stone to a bigger club like Spurs.

 

There is only so long they can tread water for, I think this season will see the end of them.

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Still think 34-35 should be enough, making West Ham, Hull, Norwich and Swansea pretty much safe for me.

 

Reckon Sunderland will scrape a 1-0 tomorrow, though. Damn Cardiff!

 

Not playing tomorro marro. Mondo.

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Despite that late Cardiff goal its been an awful day for them with Palace winning. I think they'll get beat on Monday. West Ham will go for the draw playing defensive which the mackems struggle against at home. Definitely got a Nolan or Carroll goal from a set piece written all over it.

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Great result the Palace one, massively makes up for West Brom drawing! Before today West Brom had the easier fixtures than Palace, so its still quite decent.

 

Allardyce and West Ham will be hard to beat on Monday (as we know from his matches against us) and so I fancy them on the break, mackems are more suited to defending themselves and scoring a fluke goal for the win, bit different when they are expected to do the attacking.

 

Even if they win on Monday, I wouldn't reckon they will get many points after that for a while and should be safely in the bottom 3 for the foreseeable.

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Despite that late Cardiff goal its been an awful day for them with Palace winning. I think they'll get beat on Monday. West Ham will go for the draw playing defensive which the mackems struggle against at home. Definitely got a Nolan or Carroll goal from a set piece written all over it.

 

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In other news, quite a coup getting Professor Green to play in sundo....he's clearly thrilled to be there

 

Quick stop off in the toon now off to Sunderland, then back to quite possibly my favourite city outside of London, Newcastle.

 

:iamatwat:

 

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Despite the strange fawning love they always seem to have for managers, chairmen, owners, no matter how bad they are (party with Marty, Paolo's revolution etc, etc) even they must be starting to realise that in their predicament Tony "the charver" Pulis would have been a better choice than the egotistical Gus "the poo" Poyet  ?

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In other news, quite a coup getting Professor Green to play in sundo....he's clearly thrilled to be there

 

Quick stop off in the toon now off to Sunderland, then back to quite possibly my favourite city outside of London, Newcastle.

 

:iamatwat:

 

 

That could be the twitter account of every away fan that ever stayed up north after a Sunderland game.

 

Never heard of someone staying in Sunderland after a match or just in general.

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Despite the strange fawning love they always seem to have for managers, chairmen, owners, no matter how bad they are (party with Marty, Paolo's revolution etc, etc) even they must be starting to realise that in their predicament Tony "the charver" Pulis would have been a better choice than the egotistical Gus "the poo" Poyet  ?

 

Sunderland - like Newcastle are a difficult team to manage. Place & Pulis are a great fit. Palace would be delighted to have 5 consecutive years in the Premiership playing hoofball - despite producing some very talented footballers.

 

Sunderland on the other hand..... make otherwise decent managers (based on previous jobs and current jobs MON & Bruce are decent) look terrible.

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Yeah, Antiscore just isn't very good. He should definitely go back to the Dutch league.

 

They'll be relegated and he'll be the scapegoat, despite 75% of their squad just not being PL-quality That doesn't excuse his pitiful performance this season. He should have scored at least a few token goals by this point.

 

He's not a PL footballer, but he's also not "shit." He's completely zapped of confidence (much of which comes from the fact that he's too thin-skinned for this league, annoyingly so) and playing for a team in which he was always a terrible fit. It's not exactly as if any of their other target forwards have lit up the league this season, which suggests the problem is largely systemic.

 

He'll go back to the Eredivisie or some other second-tier European league and have a decent little career. He's also a whopping 24 years old, which some are wont to forget. Not like he's entering the twilight years of his career.

 

Anyway, fuck Sunderland and their trailer park fan base.

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Despite the strange fawning love they always seem to have for managers, chairmen, owners, no matter how bad they are (party with Marty, Paolo's revolution etc, etc) even they must be starting to realise that in their predicament Tony "the charver" Pulis would have been a better choice than the egotistical Gus "the poo" Poyet  ?

 

Sunderland - like Newcastle are a difficult team to manage. Place & Pulis are a great fit. Palace would be delighted to have 5 consecutive years in the Premiership playing hoofball - despite producing some very talented footballers.

 

Sunderland on the other hand..... make otherwise decent managers (based on previous jobs and current jobs MON & Bruce are decent) look terrible.

 

MON isn't otherwise decent at all. Villa are still paying for his stint there. Ask brummie about how decent O'Neill is.

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Despite the strange fawning love they always seem to have for managers, chairmen, owners, no matter how bad they are (party with Marty, Paolo's revolution etc, etc) even they must be starting to realise that in their predicament Tony "the charver" Pulis would have been a better choice than the egotistical Gus "the poo" Poyet  ?

 

Sunderland - like Newcastle are a difficult team to manage. Place & Pulis are a great fit. Palace would be delighted to have 5 consecutive years in the Premiership playing hoofball - despite producing some very talented footballers.

 

Sunderland on the other hand..... make otherwise decent managers (based on previous jobs and current jobs MON & Bruce are decent) look terrible.

 

Agree with all of that except that Bruce and MoN are good managers. O'Neills Villa were shocking to watch with their one dimensional football, and Bruce's myth is only perpetuated by his media muckers.

 

We'll get beat off West Ham tomorrow, and that'll be us gone. To be honest I'll be relieved when it's over, then we can start clearing out the utter shite that's been infesting our club for the last 5 years. If we have to suffer more than one season in the Championship, then so be it. 

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I think you're the type of club that needs to come back first time of asking, or it could be a long time before you're back. If we'd fucked up our season down there, I doubt we'd have been back any time soon.

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Despite the strange fawning love they always seem to have for managers, chairmen, owners, no matter how bad they are (party with Marty, Paolo's revolution etc, etc) even they must be starting to realise that in their predicament Tony "the charver" Pulis would have been a better choice than the egotistical Gus "the poo" Poyet  ?

 

Sunderland - like Newcastle are a difficult team to manage. Place & Pulis are a great fit. Palace would be delighted to have 5 consecutive years in the Premiership playing hoofball - despite producing some very talented footballers.

 

Sunderland on the other hand..... make otherwise decent managers (based on previous jobs and current jobs MON & Bruce are decent) look terrible.

 

Agree with all of that except that Bruce and MoN are good managers. O'Neills Villa were shocking to watch with their one dimensional football, and Bruce's myth is only perpetuated by his media muckers.

 

We'll get beat off West Ham tomorrow, and that'll be us gone. To be honest I'll be relieved when it's over, then we can start clearing out the utter shite that's been infesting our club for the last 5 years. If we have to suffer more than one season in the Championship, then so be it. 

 

You have signed a shit load of players the last two windows haven't you? How many do you think will stay?

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