Dokko Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 He deserves chances, in fact he deserves more of a chance to prove himself than Debuchy right now who if a young lad breaking through would have been body slammed back in to the reserves or possibly loaned out and forgot about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Debuchy - MYM - Colo - Dummett on Saturday then? Or might Santon be back? I really don't want to see MYM on the left and Willo centrally.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 He deserves chances, in fact he deserves more of a chance to prove himself than Debuchy right now who if a young lad breaking through would have been body slammed back in to the reserves or possibly loaned out and forgot about. Probably correct, but then again Debuchy is a proven and experienced international player, so we know this bad period is more form than lack of ability. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 He deserves chances, in fact he deserves more of a chance to prove himself than Debuchy right now who if a young lad breaking through would have been body slammed back in to the reserves or possibly loaned out and forgot about. Probably correct, but then again Debuchy is a proven and experienced international player, so we know this bad period is more form than lack of ability. Proven in France. There's better and more experienced international players that have failed in the Premiership. He hasn't proven himself in the PL. And he isn't even proven at international level - he has 1 more cap than Danny Welbeck and he has 5 years on him. He only made his international debut in 2011. Unlike MYM or someone, he wasn't pointed out as a tremendous player from a young age. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 OK, but he is miles more experienced and proven than Dummett. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Surprisingly no one bumps this thread up? I think he has a good game tonight, solid, tidy, and composed. I am very impressed and I think both he and Haidara are good enough cover for the left - and I even wouldnt mind to start any one of them and play Santon on the right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 He's decent enough going forward too. Struggled for the first 20 minutes, but settled down and played really well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deputy Dawg UK Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 i thought he had a good game, yes the first 20 minutes were difficult but he settled down..Looked good going forward and played with confidence after the nervy start...Bodes well for the future, not sure where he rates with Haidara and Santon mind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Didnt panic, and hasn't whenever he's had minutes on the pitch. We can thank his loan move and should be using st Mirren more often, I'm sure they won't mind some of our better prospects going up there for game time. If Campbell's loan move to Carlisle doesn't work out he'd be the first one sent up there followed by Streete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Didnt panic, and hasn't whenever he's had minutes on the pitch. We can thank his loan move and should be using st Mirren more often, I'm sure they won't mind some of our better prospects going up there for game time. If Campbell's loan move to Carlisle doesn't work out he'd be the first one sent up there followed by Streete. Dummett has been quite a surprise package. Don't think he was particularly highly rated until this season. Maybe it's for the best so the kids can develop without expectation or pressure. Wonder how good Connor Newton is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 I've already got more faith in him than Santon. Particularly in defence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Nowt like a bit of hyperbole. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 If you play Santon as a full back and not a wing back I'm sure people's perception of his defensive capabilities with change but a lot of people don't look at the player or the system before judging. or before encouraging him to get down the wing... Anyway - Dummett - yes - fantastic player & a academy product where you can actually visualise him in the first team in a couple of years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Santon's defending was outstanding against West Ham. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Samuel Ameobi @Sammy_Ameobi 2m Congrats @PaulDummett on your senior Wales call up...happy for you geeza! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 good for him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Like a new signing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 are we close to ~brimming~ with internationals again :}} Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenige Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Whisper it...looks half decent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Whisper it...looks half decent. He looks like a left back and does the things a left back should do quite well. Good positional sense. Really seems to have stolen a march on Shane. Is it Santon - Haidara - Dummet - Ferguson, in the pecking order now ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Dummett will be ahead of Haidara at this point. Anyway another good showing if Debuchy doesn't improve then he should be dropped for Dummett. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
healthyaddiction Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 I'd personally drop Debuchy now. Santon at right-back and Dummett at left-back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 I'd personally drop Debuchy now. Santon at right-back and Dummett at left-back. I wouldn't, the same was said about defenders last season and more often than not somebody would come in and people wanted them out next game. Dummett looks good but he's got a lot to learn before he should be willingly thrown in against Premiership teams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
healthyaddiction Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 I'd personally drop Debuchy now. Santon at right-back and Dummett at left-back. I wouldn't, the same was said about defenders last season and more often than not somebody would come in and people wanted them out next game. Dummett looks good but he's got a lot to learn before he should be willingly thrown in against Premiership teams. For me, Debuchy has been pretty consistently poor this season, including last night. I am not writing him off altogether but when you have a player clearly not performing he needs to be dropped. That alongside the fact that Santon's lack of a left foot is really frustrating me and I think affecting our attacks and the fact the Dummett has played well the 3 times he's been on the pitch means that I would take the chance. We can't just stick with Debuchy while he's playing poorly just because the other option isn't experienced. And Dummett may have things to learn but he's shown a maturity and well roundedness to his game when i've seen him and the only way this'll develop is by getting some games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 I'd personally drop Debuchy now. Santon at right-back and Dummett at left-back. I wouldn't, the same was said about defenders last season and more often than not somebody would come in and people wanted them out next game. Dummett looks good but he's got a lot to learn before he should be willingly thrown in against Premiership teams. Spot on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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