themanupstairs Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 PD's still a better option than Haidara like. Let's not get carried away. Not at LB he isn't. Let's not get carried away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Haidara's awful man. A liability in possession, not just bad, a liability. We'll concede goals from his crap distribution. Can't defend. Can't attack. Rarely see him put in a decent cross. All he can do is run and get into promising positions before wasting them. I wanted to like Haidara but he's a very long way to go before looking a decent player imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Haidara's awful man. A liability in possession, not just bad, a liability. We'll concede goals from his crap distribution. Can't defend. Can't attack. Rarely see him put in a decent cross. All he can do is run and get into promising positions before wasting them. I wanted to like Haidara but he's a very long way to go before looking a decent player imo. That first sentence describes Dummett to a tee. The only thing Haidara has over him is that he can run with the ball which relieves pressure. Dummett's distribution is even worse, and his mistakes tend to keep us under pressure as a result. Also for a relatively big man he's so fucking weak going out to meet wide players. Not keen on him at LB at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Haidara's awful man. A liability in possession, not just bad, a liability. We'll concede goals from his crap distribution. Can't defend. Can't attack. Rarely see him put in a decent cross. All he can do is run and get into promising positions before wasting them. I wanted to like Haidara but he's a very long way to go before looking a decent player imo. That first sentence describes Dummett to a tee. The only thing Haidara has over him is that he can run with the ball which relieves pressure. Dummett's distribution is even worse, and his mistakes tend to keep us under pressure as a result. Also for a relatively big man he's so f***ing weak going out to meet wide players. Not keen on him at LB at all. This^. Nee way Dummett is better than Haidara. He just isn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Even if you fused them together to make a 'superplayer' he'd still be fairly shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Haidara's mistakes cost us goals. Dummett is safety first, which might increase pressure but doesn't directly lead to goals. Don't see Haidara getting back in the team anyway. Think Dummett's relatively strong aerial ability compared to the rest of our team in defensive set-pieces is a massive reason he's in the team. Gets his head on the end of a lot of defensive corners. Even if you fused them together to make a 'superplayer' he'd still be fairly s***. If PD could run he'd be a very handy CB. But at LB I agree. Neither are good enough technically. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Haidara's mistakes cost us goals. Dummett is safety first, which might increase pressure but doesn't directly lead to goals. Don't see Haidara getting back in the team anyway. Think Dummett's relatively strong aerial ability compared to the rest of our team in defensive set-pieces is a massive reason he's in the team. Gets his head on the end of a lot of defensive corners. Even if you fused them together to make a 'superplayer' he'd still be fairly s***. If PD could run he'd be a very handy CB. But at LB I agree. Neither are good enough technically. Fair summation. I suppose the best way is to rotate them depending on the match situation. Neither one is clearly a cut above the other. Mbabu has played better than both by some distance, but he's so young and inexperienced, we haven't seen how bad he could be when he's not on it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 I'd normally say Dummet was an upgrade on haidara but he was awful on saturday. Everything he did was nullified or opened us up to attacks. I would get Mbabu in for the next one, we will need some pace, also worried about colo... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 I think we'd all agree we need to sign a left back but that probably won't happen until we shift either Dummett or Haidara out and that probably won't happen until the summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 I think someone like him who isn't a natural athlete, a pre-season is vital. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Think Dummett is in the Colback category of being undroppable for McClaren, get used to him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Not sure about that. He's been taken off in a couple of games since he came into the side Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 We looked best with Mbabu at LB anyway. Id rather him there until we sign a long term left back. I'd also like to see Mbabu be our backup RB for he future. He actually looks a real talent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Not sure about that. He's been taken off in a couple of games since he came into the side Maybe phrased badly, I think he'll start whenever he's fit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Haidara's mistakes cost us goals. Dummett is safety first, which might increase pressure but doesn't directly lead to goals. Don't see Haidara getting back in the team anyway. Think Dummett's relatively strong aerial ability compared to the rest of our team in defensive set-pieces is a massive reason he's in the team. Gets his head on the end of a lot of defensive corners. Even if you fused them together to make a 'superplayer' he'd still be fairly s***. If PD could run he'd be a very handy CB. But at LB I agree. Neither are good enough technically. Dummett could easily have cost us goals as well this season, many times he's been bailed out by Colo or weak finishing like on Saturday. Last season Dummett at least looked fairly solid defensively, this season his defending has been rubbish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 It's a good point to mention PD has basically been chucked in the first team as soon as he's come back from an injury, with a limited pre-season as well. At his best he will be solid defensively while giving us nothing going the other way. I prefer that to Haidara. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Is Willems a realistic shout at being this January's Debuchy or pie in the sky? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 He was horrendous on Saturday and owes Colo numerous times for bailing his arse! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Is Willems a realistic shout at being this January's Debuchy or pie in the sky? Think I read he got hurt in training Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Haidara's mistakes cost us goals. Dummett is safety first, which might increase pressure but doesn't directly lead to goals. Don't see Haidara getting back in the team anyway. Think Dummett's relatively strong aerial ability compared to the rest of our team in defensive set-pieces is a massive reason he's in the team. Gets his head on the end of a lot of defensive corners. Even if you fused them together to make a 'superplayer' he'd still be fairly s***. If PD could run he'd be a very handy CB. But at LB I agree. Neither are good enough technically. Dummett could easily have cost us goals as well this season, many times he's been bailed out by Colo or weak finishing like on Saturday. Last season Dummett at least looked fairly solid defensively, this season his defending has been rubbish. Okay but Haidara has cost us actual goals.... he makes those kind of mistakes, no coming back mistakes. Dummett's been poor since coming back from injury but he's better than Haidara. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Not keen on that argument. Might as well say Eliott is better than Krul as he's not made many errors in his 4 games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 He can't defend. He can't attack. He can't pass. He can't control. He can't run. How the fuck did he get a professional contract? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nattfare Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 He can't defend. He can't attack. He can't pass. He can't control. He can't run. How the f*** did he get a professional contract? He was cheap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 He can't defend. He can't attack. He can't pass. He can't control. He can't run. How the fuck did he get a professional contract? Needed more welsh players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nattfare Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 He can't defend. He can't attack. He can't pass. He can't control. He can't run. How the f*** did he get a professional contract? Needed more welsh players. Nothing beats proper British DNA after all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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