The College Dropout Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Repeat: I'm not opposed to signing better players. Just think we are going after too many for short term benefit. 2 starters and a back-up in January I think is the best you can do for the rest of the campaign. More and I think you create more problems than are solved. So you wouldn't replace dummett at this stage? Or buy a goal scorer? In January - a CM and goal scorer for me should've been the priority. Think another for the bench in a position would've been good. I don't think an entire new left hand side. CM partnership. A striker. Is the best way to go forward when the first time they play together is February. That brings new issues for basically nearly every facet of the team. While SMC figures it out we'll lose football matches. I don't think we'll land players for all the positions which I think may be a blessing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Don't want something to get in the way of us picking up the points like we've been doing all season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stal Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 I totally get what he's saying with regards to too many players. That makes sense to me in normal circumstances. However, we're way past normal circumstances and I'm happy that so many signing have been made. Would like a defender or two though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Signing loads in January isn't the best way to build a team, get your preferred targets or build a squad long term, but if you're about to be relegated you don't have much choice. That's not true though. Think of any great escape in the PL, it didn't happen from loads of signings. We aren't even far away. I'm really excited by Berahino if we could land him regardless. Sign Saido - if we stay up, we should hit the next season running. We stayed up in 2013 mainly because we added half a new team in January. Sissoko and even Gouffran's initial spurt saved us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Signing loads in January isn't the best way to build a team, get your preferred targets or build a squad long term, but if you're about to be relegated you don't have much choice. That's not true though. Think of any great escape in the PL, it didn't happen from loads of signings. We aren't even far away. I'm really excited by Berahino if we could land him regardless. Sign Saido - if we stay up, we should hit the next season running. We stayed up in 2013 mainly because we added half a new team in January. Sissoko and even Gouffran's initial spurt saved us. It sometimes gives a short term jolt, certainly hoe Townsend starts well and the OAP smashes a few in, assuming they haven't found he needs a hip replacement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Signing loads in January isn't the best way to build a team, get your preferred targets or build a squad long term, but if you're about to be relegated you don't have much choice. That's not true though. Think of any great escape in the PL, it didn't happen from loads of signings. We aren't even far away. I'm really excited by Berahino if we could land him regardless. Sign Saido - if we stay up, we should hit the next season running. We stayed up in 2013 mainly because we added half a new team in January. Sissoko and even Gouffran's initial spurt saved us. I disagree. I think signing so many ensured we would struggle for that entire season. Look at teams that actually avoid relegation by performing well. We limped over. Had we only signed Debuchy and Sissoko I think we would've been better. Gouff and Mbiwa was too much imo at that point in the season. And overall they all (apart from Gouff funnily enough) struggled in those 5 months. Sissoko had a couple great performances then was absolutely awful in the league. Debuchy snd Mbiwa struggled. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Just went on the Valencia website - I guess this went unnoticed.. http://i.imgur.com/qzp5AKA.png Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Unnoticed on here? It's been posted a lot in the Guilherme Siqueira thread. Heck, it's even in the title. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Unnoticed by me apparently Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 A new defender would be very welcome like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Yeah, hope we have another left back loan option. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Signing loads in January isn't the best way to build a team, get your preferred targets or build a squad long term, but if you're about to be relegated you don't have much choice. That's not true though. Think of any great escape in the PL, it didn't happen from loads of signings. We aren't even far away. I'm really excited by Berahino if we could land him regardless. Sign Saido - if we stay up, we should hit the next season running. We stayed up in 2013 mainly because we added half a new team in January. Sissoko and even Gouffran's initial spurt saved us. I disagree. I think signing so many ensured we would struggle for that entire season. Look at teams that actually avoid relegation by performing well. We limped over. Had we only signed Debuchy and Sissoko I think we would've been better. Gouff and Mbiwa was too much imo at that point in the season. And overall they all (apart from Gouff funnily enough) struggled in those 5 months. Sissoko had a couple great performances then was absolutely awful in the league. Debuchy snd Mbiwa struggled. If McClaren was to try and integrate too many new players into the first team all at once, there'd be a problem, but I think we're some distance from that point. The main problem with the January window is that the pressure can lead to a club paying over the odds for the wrong players, or players that aren't any better than the ones they have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Signing loads in January isn't the best way to build a team, get your preferred targets or build a squad long term, but if you're about to be relegated you don't have much choice. That's not true though. Think of any great escape in the PL, it didn't happen from loads of signings. We aren't even far away. I'm really excited by Berahino if we could land him regardless. Sign Saido - if we stay up, we should hit the next season running. We stayed up in 2013 mainly because we added half a new team in January. Sissoko and even Gouffran's initial spurt saved us. I disagree. I think signing so many ensured we would struggle for that entire season. Look at teams that actually avoid relegation by performing well. We limped over. Had we only signed Debuchy and Sissoko I think we would've been better. Gouff and Mbiwa was too much imo at that point in the season. And overall they all (apart from Gouff funnily enough) struggled in those 5 months. Sissoko had a couple great performances then was absolutely awful in the league. Debuchy snd Mbiwa struggled. If McClaren was to try and integrate too many new players into the first team all at once, there'd be a problem, but I think we're some distance from that point. The main problem with the January window is that the pressure can lead to a club paying over the odds for the wrong players, or players that aren't any better than the ones they have. That's only because they didn't address the squad deficiencies in the summer in the first place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Yes. I agree. January just isn't the time for major changes unless you can afford to bed players in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Repeat: I'm not opposed to signing better players. Just think we are going after too many for short term benefit. 2 starters and a back-up in January I think is the best you can do for the rest of the campaign. More and I think you create more problems than are solved. So you wouldn't replace dummett at this stage? Or buy a goal scorer? In January - a CM and goal scorer for me should've been the priority. Think another for the bench in a position would've been good. I don't think an entire new left hand side. CM partnership. A striker. Is the best way to go forward when the first time they play together is February. That brings new issues for basically nearly every facet of the team. While SMC figures it out we'll lose football matches. I don't think we'll land players for all the positions which I think may be a blessing. I'm tempted to agree with TCD to an extent. If SMC had shown he could handle and pick the right teams when options were available then OK but he hasn't shown that at all, the opposite in fact to some extent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Repeat: I'm not opposed to signing better players. Just think we are going after too many for short term benefit. 2 starters and a back-up in January I think is the best you can do for the rest of the campaign. More and I think you create more problems than are solved. So you wouldn't replace dummett at this stage? Or buy a goal scorer? In January - a CM and goal scorer for me should've been the priority. Think another for the bench in a position would've been good. I don't think an entire new left hand side. CM partnership. A striker. Is the best way to go forward when the first time they play together is February. That brings new issues for basically nearly every facet of the team. While SMC figures it out we'll lose football matches. I don't think we'll land players for all the positions which I think may be a blessing. I'm tempted to agree with TCD to an extent. If SMC had shown he could handle and pick the right teams when options were available then OK but he hasn't shown that at all, the opposite in fact to some extent. Yeah TCD's carefully considered opinion about McClaren is a real eye opener. I might well need to compare his record unfavourably to Pardew's using some stats to reinforce this point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Repeat: I'm not opposed to signing better players. Just think we are going after too many for short term benefit. 2 starters and a back-up in January I think is the best you can do for the rest of the campaign. More and I think you create more problems than are solved. So you wouldn't replace dummett at this stage? Or buy a goal scorer? In January - a CM and goal scorer for me should've been the priority. Think another for the bench in a position would've been good. I don't think an entire new left hand side. CM partnership. A striker. Is the best way to go forward when the first time they play together is February. That brings new issues for basically nearly every facet of the team. While SMC figures it out we'll lose football matches. I don't think we'll land players for all the positions which I think may be a blessing. I'm tempted to agree with TCD to an extent. If SMC had shown he could handle and pick the right teams when options were available then OK but he hasn't shown that at all, the opposite in fact to some extent. Yeah TCD's carefully considered opinion about McClaren is a real eye opener. I might well need to compare his record unfavourably to Pardew's using some stats to reinforce this point. I just see what he's saying is all. He got 4 player's in the summer and managed to pick the wrong team time after time dropping Perez a number of times and playing Colback every minute of every game. He's got three so far and might get 2 strikers in the next 24 hours so I'm certainly a little concerned at his ability to properly integrate them and pick a functioning team from the options he'd then have if the two deals go through. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Well, today's the day, whatever happens between now and 11pm will have massive bearing on where we'll be playing football next season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1964 Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Well, today's the day, whatever happens between now and 11pm will have massive bearing on where we'll be playing football next season It's the hope that kills you, don't sit on death row. One thing I have learned is that this lot will always let you down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Remy's name has cropped up again. Wonder if his Leicester deal fell through. I'd still prefer him to Berahino. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Willems mentioned very briefly by the Mirror. That would be excellent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Remy's name has cropped up again. Wonder if his Leicester deal fell through. I'd still prefer him to Berahino. Sky Sports reckon they're in for Gayle. Bizarre one if they choose him over Remy. Or maybe Remy doesn't want to go there? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Or they want both. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Gayle would be more of a like-for-like backup to Vardy I guess, whereas Remy could play with either so probably. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Ssn just reported remy will only be going to Leicester if they fail getting other targets, ,hope we are still monitoring Ss Remy's name has cropped up again. Wonder if his Leicester deal fell through. I'd still prefer him to Berahino. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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