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How do you fluke a league title?

 

Yeah I tried to make that point yesterday. They got some luck during the course of the season but to label it as a fluke really diminishes their unbelievable achievement.

 

The amount of referee decisions that went their way when it shouldn't, which according to some stats made them 10 points better off. The fact Liverpool, Chelsea, Man U and City were in a complete mess. It's a great achievement no doubt, but the chances of the circumstances aligning like that ever again are pretty low, therefore a fluke IMO.

 

 

It's not a fluke, it's an anomaly.

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How do you fluke a league title?

 

Yeah I tried to make that point yesterday. They got some luck during the course of the season but to label it as a fluke really diminishes their unbelievable achievement.

 

The amount of referee decisions that went their way when it shouldn't, which according to some stats made them 10 points better off. The fact Liverpool, Chelsea, Man U and City were in a complete mess. It's a great achievement no doubt, but the chances of the circumstances aligning like that ever again are pretty low, therefore a fluke IMO.

 

 

Just because it won't happen again doesn't mean it's a fluke. There was a considerable lot of skill to their title win and shouldn't be branded a fluke

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Nothing is fluked over a 38 game campaign. As we didn't fluke 5th.

 

There have been some disgusting dismissals in recent years, but this one is a new level of disgraceful. Modern football at its very worst. It's sad to see supposed football fans defend the decision. Sky have drilled their audience well into believing football is merely a business in which EPL SOCCER comes before all else. Sad!

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Momentum won them the league. Not Ranieri or the players.

 

It started well and just kept going. I rate Ranieri as a manager about as much as I rate Vardy as a striker. They are both average but contributed to an unforgettable season.

 

Sacking Ranieri is only a bad decision if they hire some chump, which they will.

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Momentum won them the league. Not Ranieri or the players.

 

The manager and the players were the ones that started and maintained that momentum so to say the managers and players didn't win them the league  and it was only 'momentum' is mental.

 

If Chelsea win the league is it only momentum that won them the league? Not an excellent manager that tweaked a system and got them cruising to the title? Or outstanding players in Kante, Hazard, Costa etc?

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Momentum won them the league. Not Ranieri or the players.

 

It started well and just kept going. I rate Ranieri as a manager about as much as I rate Vardy as a striker. They are both average but contributed to an unforgettable season.

 

Sacking Ranieri is only a bad decision if they hire some chump, which they will.

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You don't fluke a league title win... and by 10 points as well! That's an absurd statement!

 

You can fluke a cup win, but not a league. Anyone stating otherwise is staggeringly ignorant of the mechanics that go into being the best team in the land over 38 games. 10 points is winning it at a canter.

 

Their win is a statistical and historical anomaly, but no fluke. And that's why it was all the more amazing.

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You don't fluke a league title win... and by 10 points as well! That's an absurd statement!

 

You can fluke a cup win, but not a league. Anyone stating otherwise is staggeringly ignorant of the mechanics that go into being the best team in the land over 38 games. 10 points is winning it at a canter.

 

Their win is a statistical and historical anomaly, but no fluke. And that's why it was all the more amazing.

 

I think we've proven otherwise :lol:

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It's sad to see supposed football fans defend the decision. Sky have drilled their audience well into believing football is merely a business in which EPL SOCCER comes before all else. Sad!

 

On the flipside, I think it's sad to see supposed football fans decrying a club for "getting too big for it's boots" every time a manager gets sacked. Sky have drilled their audience well into believing that some clubs are entitled to be successful and everyone else should know their place and stick to it. Sad!

 

It's all a matter of opinion end of the day.

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Many online reactions to this are waaaay too OTT. It's not despicable, disgusting, the death of football etc. It's an unpopular but justifiable decision.

 

And there's lots of 'know your place, Leicester' from the press which is ridiculous.

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Sad thing is, even if he won the Champions League and they went down, obviously from a fan's point of view it's great and you'd take it any day of the week but from a business point of view it's probably worse than going out and staying up,  Which is absurd, finishing 17th in the Premier League shouldn't be a better prize than winning the fucking Champions League from any perspective.

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Many online reactions to this are waaaay too OTT. It's not despicable, disgusting, the death of football etc. It's an unpopular but justifiable decision.

 

And there's lots of 'know your place, Leicester' from the press which is ridiculous.

 

:thup:

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Many online reactions to this are waaaay too OTT. It's not despicable, disgusting, the death of football etc. It's an unpopular but justifiable decision.

 

And there's lots of 'know your place, Leicester' from the press which is ridiculous.

It is though? You look at their squad and it's relegation fodder.  Zero quality - only class player was Kante and he's gone.  It's ridiculous what they've done - they won the league, they're still in the running for last 16 of Champions League.  So what if they get relegated - it probably would help them in the long run, get rid of the average players with massive egos who are now massive salaries.  They're not going to attract anyone better.

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Many online reactions to this are waaaay too OTT. It's not despicable, disgusting, the death of football etc. It's an unpopular but justifiable decision.

 

And there's lots of 'know your place, Leicester' from the press which is ridiculous.

 

:thup:

 

 

Momentum won them the league. Not Ranieri or the players.

What a load of utter drivel.

 

Kante, Ranieri, Vardy and Mahrez won them the league. Probably in that order. Drinkwater and others were exceptional but those 4 were the key.

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I guess it's similar to Pardew getting 5th then us wanting rid the next season.

Hardly - Pardew had a CV in which he had been fired several times after a good start with clubs so people shouldn't have been surprised that he started to fail....we were justified in wanting him gone as Palace fans will now testify. Ranieri had a much better career than Pardew and NUFC are by far a bigger club than Leicester.

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There's no question that momentum, positive or negative, is important in football. We've seen that often enough with our own club, and we're seeing it with Leicester in a very dramatic form.

 

A crucial factor is the loss of Kante. Normally a player in that role is replaceable, but his ability to break up opposition attacks is exceptional, and we're seeing it with Chelsea now. Obviously Chelsea are a team that you expect to be in contention, but I don't think anyone expected them to be this far ahead.

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Many online reactions to this are waaaay too OTT. It's not despicable, disgusting, the death of football etc. It's an unpopular but justifiable decision.

 

And there's lots of 'know your place, Leicester' from the press which is ridiculous.

It is though? You look at their squad and it's relegation fodder.  Zero quality - only class player was Kante and he's gone.  It's ridiculous what they've done - they won the league, they're still in the running for last 16 of Champions League.  So what if they get relegated - it probably would help them in the long run, get rid of the average players with massive egos who are now massive salaries.  They're not going to attract anyone better.

 

Their owners have sank close to £150m in the club and they wouldn't be in the PL without them most likely, those owners have every right to try and keep them in the PL and protect their investment.

 

Also it's becoming clear things are all not well behind the scenes.

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