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HaydnNUFC

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Probably something Froggy[/member] could answer, but do Man Utd fans really think that Solskjaer is the man to stop that club from becoming one that perennially finishes 3rd-6th, or even lower? Which is something they have done for 4 of the last 5 seasons bar the year under Jose, who was ridiculed for saying finishing 2nd with that team is one of his best achievements. Looking at the quality of managers in the top 6, Pochettino, Guardiola, Klopp, Sarri and Emery to a lesser extent, do the fans actually see Solskjaer as the right quality of manager to get Man Utd to where they want to be, which is challenging for the title while competing with those managers? They need to get rid and go all out for Pochettino or Allegri for both long and short term, someone of that elite calibre. Not Solskjaer.

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I think the biggest problem with him is not lack of experience at top clubs etc, but his apparent lack of leadership. He appears to have no real leadership qualities and it makes me wonder how far/for how long you can blame an entire squad of players? Sure some of them seem to have bad attitudes, are underperforming or are deadwood, but I don't get the narrative that's it's the fault of all of the players and not the fault of the one individual supposed to be leading them. We see many examples of clubs with average players punch above the weight under the guidance of a manager with great leadership qualities (us under Benitez). You look at City, with Pep, Kompany, Silva, Arteta... Liverpool with Klopp & Van Dijk... to win something, or to even be in contention, you need leaders - the type that stand up and take responsibility, allow others to place their faith in them with confidence. There's no way Solskjaer is that character, you can see it in the way he carries himself for weeks/months now. Man Utd fans are in danger of falling into a deep sleep of mediocrity, blaming players and giving a free pass to the manager because it's now convenient. You feel even if they bring in 4-5 new good players and then start the season poorly, the blame will still be at the feet of the players and not the manager - when it's so glaringly obvious to the rest of the country that his appointment was one of the poorest decisions from one of the top clubs in a long time.

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Sho Time

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Has anyone done a meme of a horrific car crash with the "Ole's at the wheel" caption?

 

There's loads on Twitter. Here's one.

 

 

:lol: I need to use Twitter more.

 

I'm assuming searching #olesatthewheel brings up some alright results?

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HaydnNUFC

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Has anyone done a meme of a horrific car crash with the "Ole's at the wheel" caption?

 

There's loads on Twitter. Here's one.

 

 

:lol: I need to use Twitter more.

 

I'm assuming searching #olesatthewheel brings up some alright results?

 

Aye. No need for the hashtag tbh, just search 'ole's at the wheel'. There's hundreds.

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David Edgar

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What's the origin of the 'Ole at the wheel' thing ?

Stone Roses song Waterfall. Which is a great tune but now almost ruined by those t***s.

:thup: Cheers

Yeah and they (used to) sing it incessantly.  Legit think they've ruined the song for me.

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Just had a look on red cafe and it seems most of them want him out now.

 

Aye its hilarious, I didn't realise one of the first things Solskjaer did when he got the job was give Phil Jones a new 4 year contract with the option of another year.

 

1. Redcafe is ridiculous and shouldn't be used for a basis as to how Man United fans think.

 

2. Ole has nothing to do with the contracts, and that's the major problem at Manchester United. Ed Woodward needs to fuck off back to the financial side of things and bring in an experienced director of football to work with the manager and make the footballing decisions.

 

Sure, but surely ManU fans don't actually want him there now?

 

Such a bizarre appointment

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Froggy

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Probably something Froggy[/member] could answer, but do Man Utd fans really think that Solskjaer is the man to stop that club from becoming one that perennially finishes 3rd-6th, or even lower? Which is something they have done for 4 of the last 5 seasons bar the year under Jose, who was ridiculed for saying finishing 2nd with that team is one of his best achievements. Looking at the quality of managers in the top 6, Pochettino, Guardiola, Klopp, Sarri and Emery to a lesser extent, do the fans actually see Solskjaer as the right quality of manager to get Man Utd to where they want to be, which is challenging for the title while competing with those managers? They need to get rid and go all out for Pochettino or Allegri for both long and short term, someone of that elite calibre. Not Solskjaer.

 

Would we prefer Ole over Poch? Obviously not. But we're not going to write off Ole just yet. We've went for the serial winners and it hasn't worked. Who was Sarri before going a chance at Napoli? Peps first job was Barcelona.

 

We're miles off the top now. Why not give Ole a chance to try and build a young team? Everyone is basing his ability on a few months at Cardiff.

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Probably something Froggy[/member] could answer, but do Man Utd fans really think that Solskjaer is the man to stop that club from becoming one that perennially finishes 3rd-6th, or even lower? Which is something they have done for 4 of the last 5 seasons bar the year under Jose, who was ridiculed for saying finishing 2nd with that team is one of his best achievements. Looking at the quality of managers in the top 6, Pochettino, Guardiola, Klopp, Sarri and Emery to a lesser extent, do the fans actually see Solskjaer as the right quality of manager to get Man Utd to where they want to be, which is challenging for the title while competing with those managers? They need to get rid and go all out for Pochettino or Allegri for both long and short term, someone of that elite calibre. Not Solskjaer.

 

Would we prefer Ole over Poch? Obviously not. But we're not going to write off Ole just yet. We've went for the serial winners and it hasn't worked. Who was Sarri before going a chance at Napoli? Peps first job was Barcelona.

 

We're miles off the top now. Why not give Ole a chance to try and build a young team? Everyone is basing his ability on a few months at Cardiff.

 

Which serial winners? Moyes? Giggs?

Mourinho won the europa league and came second last season

 

Why would you possibly think the best idea would be to give ole time

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Froggy

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Probably something Froggy[/member] could answer, but do Man Utd fans really think that Solskjaer is the man to stop that club from becoming one that perennially finishes 3rd-6th, or even lower? Which is something they have done for 4 of the last 5 seasons bar the year under Jose, who was ridiculed for saying finishing 2nd with that team is one of his best achievements. Looking at the quality of managers in the top 6, Pochettino, Guardiola, Klopp, Sarri and Emery to a lesser extent, do the fans actually see Solskjaer as the right quality of manager to get Man Utd to where they want to be, which is challenging for the title while competing with those managers? They need to get rid and go all out for Pochettino or Allegri for both long and short term, someone of that elite calibre. Not Solskjaer.

 

Would we prefer Ole over Poch? Obviously not. But we're not going to write off Ole just yet. We've went for the serial winners and it hasn't worked. Who was Sarri before going a chance at Napoli? Peps first job was Barcelona.

 

We're miles off the top now. Why not give Ole a chance to try and build a young team? Everyone is basing his ability on a few months at Cardiff.

 

Which serial winners? Moyes? Giggs?

Mourinho won the europa league and came second last season

 

Why would you possibly think the best idea would be to give ole time

 

I obviously meant Mourinho and Van Gaal. Yes Mourinho finished second but both of them were ultimately miles off the pace. I'm not convinced Allegri would be any better. The only managers I'd have confidence in to turn this around at the minute are at our biggest rivals.

 

Since you think Solskjaer is such a terrible idea, what would you suggest? We're nowhere near ready to challenge. Why not attempt a rebuild with young, hungry players and with a manager who knows and loves the club?

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My opinion should be minority but you should never sack Jose. The sacking basically confirms that no manager in the world would make these Man Utd players bow their heads and squad clearance is a must.

 

Which, sadly, is against Woodward’s interest.

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My opinion should be minority but you should never sack Jose. The sacking basically confirms that no manager in the world would make these Man Utd players now their heads but squad clearance is a must.

 

Which, sadly, is against Woodward’s interest.

 

Woodward is a clown. He gave new contracts to Jones, Smalling and Young yet wouldn't give Herrera a 5 year contract because of his age despite him being one of our best players and arguably the most passionate player we have. That was a sickening decision which was majorly upset the fans.

 

I hope he has some sort of plan in place for the summer.

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David Edgar

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Mourinho getting this iteration of Man Utd to 2nd place and winning the Europa was a hell of an achievement in hindsight.  And - although this is one of those daft can't prove for shit comments - I'd wager he'd have got them closer to a Champions League slot this season than OGS.  Problem was always believing and giving him the full backing.

 

Easier to blame Mourinho than want to accept that Martial and co aren't up to it.

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