AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Did De Boer have a good record before Palace? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Did De Boer have a good record before Palace? He was a very highly touted managerial prospect while at Ajax, I remember after Pardew left his name coming up and everyone said we had no chance of getting him. Went to Inter and was a disaster and now this does not look good on his CV. It's difficult to judge him at Ajax because they are the big fish in that league, like strikers in Holland, it's difficult to assess how they will do in the so called bigger leagues. One thing though, he was obviously given time at Ajax, clearly the system he likes to play will take time for the players to adapt too, both Inter and Palace obviously didn't have the patience to preserve with him and see if once bedded in his teams would be successful. Think it's going to be hard for him to regain his reputation now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Its getting to the point now in the PL that 3 successive defeats becomes a crisis and a disaster... unless you happen to be managed by Alan Pardew that is! Utter ridiculous to appoint a manager to bring in a new football style after a few years of negative anti-football and then to sack him 4 games in when that new style doesn't materialise. I hope they get relegated. I think the PL need to introduce new rules that allow managers at least 6 months before they can be sacked or replaced. The argument against would be what if relegation is a certainty... well make sure you hire the right fucking manager then dickhead. Our game is an utter mess like and fucked up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugazi Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Did De Boer have a good record before Palace? Ajax fans hated the football he had them play, but he won prizes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Hippohead's just said on MNF he spoke to Steve Parish today and said he wouldn't be taking it. Wasn't offered, like, just "asked for his thoughts". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Fucking Allardyce man. What a truly ridiculous shit talking prick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Saying that it's a risk taking a foreign coach and that managers need to be pragmatic and work to suit the style of players they have. Honestly, has there ever been a less pragmatic manager in the league than Allardyce? A manager less flexible with their style, that needs time to get the players to play HIS way? Honestly, he's the Mozart of bullshit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy84 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Saying that it's a risk taking a foreign coach and that managers need to be pragmatic and work to suit the style of players they have. Honestly, has there ever been a less pragmatic manager in the league than Allardyce? A manager less flexible with their style, that needs time to get the players to play HIS way? Honestly, he's the Mozart of bullshit. A bloke who lost his first 4-5 games in charge of Palace, including a 4-0 home defeat to fucking Sunderland Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 He's fucking unbelievable. Media Watch will be all over this like. His lack of self awareness is profound. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Kept them up though, job done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 That graphic with the worst teams since December 2015 was interesting. 2 of the worst 3 in the country were Allardyce managed at some point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Kept them up though, job done. By being able to keep his job after those losses. For him to then criticise someone else doing it is textbook bullshitter Allardyce. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 What is the graphic behind Allardyce? Looks like a huge dog about to eat him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 I wish there was another Brian Clough around to give him the Don Revie treatment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Hodgson should do a solid job for them. Ridiculous as the sacking is the other side of the coin is when it seems obvious it really isn't going to work as it seemed with De Boer why waste time and games just for appearances sake? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Genuinely bewildered as to how people think Hodgson will be solid for Palace. He's not managed a club side for 5 years His tactics with England were woeful and other than getting through a qualifying phase full of pub teams, he was shown up whenever he actually had to implement some sort of plan in a competitive competition. He's been deteriorating for some time as a manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Genuinely bewildered as to how people think Hodgson will be solid for Palace. He's not managed a club side for 5 years His tactics with England were woeful and other than getting through a qualifying phase full of pub teams, he was shown up whenever he actually had to implement some sort of plan in a competitive competition. He's been deteriorating for some time as a manager. so like every manager since 1966? Hodgson has a proven track record at club level and seems a better fit for the squad than De Boer ever was Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 There's deffinitely evidence to suggest he isn't the manager he was, but I cannot see how anyone would be 'bewildered' by anyine thinking he could be solid like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 I don't know what's madder, sacking a manager after 4 games, or deciding to sack him after 2 which seems to be what happened and then prolonging it. I get the impression that Parish is waaaaaaay too hands on and any manager worth his salt is going to chafe heavily against him. De Boer however, not sure if he's got anything as a coach either, was pretty unimpressive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 There's deffinitely evidence to suggest he isn't the manager he was, but I cannot see how anyone would be 'bewildered' by anyine thinking he could be solid like. Bruce was supposedly going to be solid at Villa and I was laughed at for suggesting that he'd fail there, so I'll take it with a pinch of salt. Hodgson is crap and has been for some time, it's not that difficult to come to the conclusion that a failing, ageing PFM might struggle to adapt after not managing a club side for 5 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Saying that it's a risk taking a foreign coach and that managers need to be pragmatic and work to suit the style of players they have. Honestly, has there ever been a less pragmatic manager in the league than Allardyce? A manager less flexible with their style, that needs time to get the players to play HIS way? Honestly, he's the Mozart of bullshit. I'd be amazed if the stats in recent years didn't prove it to be a far bigger risk employing a British manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Clubs that sack a lot of managers are papering over cracks, I think we like to overestimate how much most managers can do, there are a lot of other factors, out of control player power and a chairmen who will listen to them over their manager is big, and if no manager stays long it's clear there may be a more pressing disease. The thing is Palace ahve a lot of other things going for them, but they churn through the managers. Their squad on paper isn't completely terrible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Did De Boer have a good record before Palace? He was utter shite at Inter, Palace probably didn't give him much of a chance but I don't think he would proven to be up to much anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 https://fansided.com/2017/09/11/frank-de-boer-ultimatum-gets-dumber-crystal-palace/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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