LV Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 3 hours ago, David Edgar said: This isn't true from what I've read. The club fucked up and then wouldn't pay his release. He agreed to come and then U-turned when the story got out. We’d agreed terms, it was a done deal. Nothing to do with not paying any release. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 3 hours ago, David Edgar said: This isn't true from what I've read. The club fucked up and then wouldn't pay his release. Where have you read this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 Don't think there's any better pedigree of manager out there for them right now so fair play on going for it. Be interested to see how he does. No hard feelings over him not taking us on as there's no way we'd be feeling about him, how we feel about Howe so I've no feelings of what might've been. I still struggle to muster any genuine dislike toward Villa so best of luck to them now Stevie Geeeeee's gone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tisd09 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 At the time I wanted Emery before Howe, obvious super happy with the way it has turned out. Howe and his staff have been a perfect fit for us and our needs. Think Villa have made a good appointment and he should get more of a tune out of Villa then Gerrard did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 On the Villa/Newcastle rivalry, I was in the away end there when we went down. I wish them every misfortune as a football club. Brummie is sound though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
South-Cheshire-Toon Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 1 hour ago, GeordieDazzler said: - The pressure and exposure at Villarreal is far below what will be expected of him at Villa, although he’s been a plenty big clubs earlier in his career. He will improve Villa, there’s no doubt in that but could be a rather expensive medium term appointment and may not take them as far as their ambitions lie. 1 hour ago, Stifler said: I have to kind of disagree with your last point there. Over the last 20 years I’d say Villarreal have been a bigger club than Villa. Villarreal have regularly played in Europe, including the Champions League and have been much more competitive La Liga than Villa have been in the Premier League. Let’s not also not disregard the fact that Villa at one point looked more in danger of dropping to League One than being promoted. I think what the first quote is saying, and I may be wrong here - so please do correct me, is that Villareal didn't have a history, as in they have no illustrious past to compare to, nor 'live up' as it's an expectation of the fans that that's where they should be, ie in the top flight division, and winning trophys. Doing a google search to get the wiki page for the team - it seems that after a very long time, the team (real) is on the move upwards so their fans are still, for the want of a better word - riding the wave. 1 History 1.1 1923–29: Early years 1.2 1929–98: Time in lower divisions 1.3 1998–2012: La Liga and European debuts 1.4 2012–present: Relegation and European glory Whereas, Villa have won in the 80's several European trophies - so it is there days that their fans are wanting to go back to - because to them - they are a big team and deserve to be there - no matter what. This last sentence is bollocks tbh as NO team deserve to be at the top unless they have earned it - so let's see how he does. I'd be interested to see where Stevie G. next appears. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 25 minutes ago, GeordieDazzler said: On the Villa/Newcastle rivalry, I was in the away end there when we went down. I wish them every misfortune as a football club. Brummie is sound though Me too. Load of cunts on the day, for no reason whatsoever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stal Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 I never disliked Villa until that relegation, in fact I grew up during Ron Atkinson's European side in the early 90s and rather enjoyed watching them. I have zero idea where that bitterness came from either, it was just so random. Maybe Villa fans are also MLFs as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 It was made worse by the fact we were staying down there to see Faithless so had to walk back though Birmingham in our toon tops. Lots of abuse all the way back to the hotel. Had a mint night after that but, yeah, fuck the Villa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbee909 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 I keep wondering if Carrick is the managerial reincarnation of Bryan Robson as far as Boro is concerned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 14 minutes ago, Stal said: I never disliked Villa until that relegation, in fact I grew up during Ron Atkinson's European side in the early 90s and rather enjoyed watching them. I have zero idea where that bitterness came from either, it was just so random. Maybe Villa fans are also MLFs as well. Villa and Everton seem to think that we’re smaller than them and therefore undeserving of the fact we tend to more coverage in the national press than them. You’d think that might make them cotton on that they may have got that wrong, but hey-ho. Villa are like the Mackems. Like to boast how many big pots they’ve won, without letting on that most of them weren’t even won in the previous century. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 Never forgive them after the nastiness when they cemented us goin down. Bunch of complete arseholes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 Might just be an online thing but they’re seemingly weirdly obsessed with getting one over on us. Makes sense I suppose, in the summer we were in a similar bracket (alongside West Ham) for attracting players to shake up the “big 6”. Inshallah we’ll be considered in a higher tier next summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Stal said: I never disliked Villa until that relegation, in fact I grew up during Ron Atkinson's European side in the early 90s and rather enjoyed watching them. I have zero idea where that bitterness came from either, it was just so random. Maybe Villa fans are also MLFs as well. Yeah, I was the same until I worked in Birmingham for a year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-421 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 (edited) Miguel Delaney having his arse handed to him again.... Starts off questioning Emerey to Villa, then gets on about our spending ability, then when thats proven inaccurate, switches his argumjent about the wages we pay compared to Villa, which is also shown to be inaccurate. Blokes an absolute weapon. Edited October 25, 2022 by TK-421 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 There’s an example of why Twitter is so unsatisfying. He’s been proven wrong so he just abandons talking about the subject as if he never said anything stupid in the first place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 (edited) I think the broader argument he's making is fair enough, it's just his engagement with fans is absolutely pathetic. Edited October 25, 2022 by The Prophet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 So many tweets I honestly cant be arsed to find what triggered our fans. Miguel Delaney is still a cunt. Probably was something innocuous but he's just a more eloquent Edwards to me at this point. You keep baiting our fans, they'll jump on the slightest thing in future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 3 hours ago, South-Cheshire-Toon said: I think what the first quote is saying, and I may be wrong here - so please do correct me, is that Villareal didn't have a history, as in they have no illustrious past to compare to, nor 'live up' as it's an expectation of the fans that that's where they should be, ie in the top flight division, and winning trophys. Doing a google search to get the wiki page for the team - it seems that after a very long time, the team (real) is on the move upwards so their fans are still, for the want of a better word - riding the wave. 1 History 1.1 1923–29: Early years 1.2 1929–98: Time in lower divisions 1.3 1998–2012: La Liga and European debuts 1.4 2012–present: Relegation and European glory Whereas, Villa have won in the 80's several European trophies - so it is there days that their fans are wanting to go back to - because to them - they are a big team and deserve to be there - no matter what. This last sentence is bollocks tbh as NO team deserve to be at the top unless they have earned it - so let's see how he does. I'd be interested to see where Stevie G. next appears. I honestly don’t think Villa fans think they have a right to be at the top. I also do not dispute the fact that historically Villa are the bigger club. All I’m saying is that over the last 20 years or so Villarreal have been the more successful, and as such their fans expectation or at least that of the board may put a bit more pressure on having them up there and competing, where as Villa are more at a building stage of their process. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjmc Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 (edited) The issue/argument made against us is that we have spent all this money in a short space of time and that correlates to the success we have had, this doesn't take into account the massive under investment while clubs around us and currently below us have had the benefit of decent spending window on window season on season. In fact its a miracle in my eyes that we are mixing it with the top 8 currently and beyond with only so little spent. Due to this I find it hard to compare and ultimately we have still had to do it wisely as we had strengthening needed all throughout the side and we still ultimately have players getting time that shouldn't be here anymore showing there is much more to be done . I am sure at the time of our take over pundits would say it would take many many years and 100's of millions just to catch up never mind over take. While its early days you cannot take away from the hard work that has been done with what we have. Edited October 25, 2022 by nufcjmc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjmc Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 Sometimes journalists make their statements appear gospel as some are good at constructing a point or good with words but regularly just offer personal opinion no different than a fan would. Made worse by rise of social media making someone with a following an "expert". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 It's important that journalists like Delany discuss state ownership, particularly those owners with shitty Human Rights records. For example, he recently put together a couple of decent, needed pieces on Qatar and the World Cup. Delany's problem is that he comes across as a sneering, pompous cunt, who loves getting stuck into fans (who have little or no say in said ownership). He can't help himself, even if his argument isn't beholden to facts. Basically he's a decent journo who can put together good articles, but as a bloke he's highly unlikeable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Disco Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 Love the word entrenador. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 11 hours ago, astraguy said: Appointment made, doesn't look a great one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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