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I think that's something we can all agree with :)

Speak for yourself. Time to find another forum. With a modicum of balance. I wish you knew what went on behind the scenes.

 

If it's that bad, why doesn't he walk?

 

Seriously?

 

"Pardew talked about “taking stock” of things at the end of the season, but denied he would resign. Managers do not walk away from severance packages. " http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/newcastle-united/10808018/Newcastle-United-manager-Alan-Pardew-feels-full-fury-of-fans-despite-victory-which-condemns-Cardiff-to-relegation.html

 

Who was the last Premier League manager to resign on principle? Or, for that matter, resigned because of their own poor performance? What about the last Championship manager, or Liga, or Serie A manager who "did the right thing" and resigned?

 

I'm not for saying for one minute that Pardew shouldn't resign (I'd prefer he commit seppuka in the centre circle), but it simply doesn't happen anymore. If you can find a realistic comparison case I will plead mea culpa, but I genuinely can't think of an actual resignation in the recent past that wasn't "going somewhere better" or a "mutual agreement" that was actually a sacking.

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I think that's something we can all agree with :)

Speak for yourself. Time to find another forum. With a modicum of balance. I wish you knew what went on behind the scenes.

 

If it's that bad, why doesn't he walk?

 

Seriously?

 

"Pardew talked about “taking stock” of things at the end of the season, but denied he would resign. Managers do not walk away from severance packages. " http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/newcastle-united/10808018/Newcastle-United-manager-Alan-Pardew-feels-full-fury-of-fans-despite-victory-which-condemns-Cardiff-to-relegation.html

 

Who was the last Premier League manager to resign on principle? Or, for that matter, resigned because of their own poor performance? What about the last Championship manager, or Liga, or Serie A manager who "did the right thing" and resigned?

 

I'm not for saying for one minute that Pardew shouldn't resign (I'd prefer he commit seppuka in the centre circle), but it simply doesn't happen anymore. If you can find a realistic comparison case I will plead mea culpa, but I genuinely can't think of an actual resignation in the recent past that wasn't "going somewhere better" or a "mutual agreement" that was actually a sacking.

 

Zola?

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The whole 'he should walk' argument is a complete non-starter and always has been.

 

If it's true that he wants a contact for Shola and can't have it, and the protests continue, plus a trashing by Liverpool, it's possible Ashley is just waiting for the summer to end Pardew. That said, who the fook knows.

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The whole 'he should walk' argument is a complete non-starter and always has been.

 

If it's true that he wants a contact for Shola and can't have it, and the protests continue, plus a trashing by Liverpool, it's possible Ashley is just waiting for the summer to end Pardew. That said, who the fook knows.

 

Guessing mike ashley is anyone's guess.

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I think that's something we can all agree with :)

Speak for yourself. Time to find another forum. With a modicum of balance. I wish you knew what went on behind the scenes.

 

If it's that bad, why doesn't he walk?

 

Seriously?

 

"Pardew talked about “taking stock” of things at the end of the season, but denied he would resign. Managers do not walk away from severance packages. " http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/newcastle-united/10808018/Newcastle-United-manager-Alan-Pardew-feels-full-fury-of-fans-despite-victory-which-condemns-Cardiff-to-relegation.html

 

Who was the last Premier League manager to resign on principle? Or, for that matter, resigned because of their own poor performance? What about the last Championship manager, or Liga, or Serie A manager who "did the right thing" and resigned?

 

I'm not for saying for one minute that Pardew shouldn't resign (I'd prefer he commit seppuka in the centre circle), but it simply doesn't happen anymore. If you can find a realistic comparison case I will plead mea culpa, but I genuinely can't think of an actual resignation in the recent past that wasn't "going somewhere better" or a "mutual agreement" that was actually a sacking.

 

There's one example from a few years ago that actually involves NUFC.  A manager who realised that he'd lose the dressing room & the fans backing and decided that his position was untenable.  As much as I disliked the football & results under him, I admire him for leaving on his own accord rather than hanging around like a dead albatross waiting for a payoff.

 

http://www.soccerbyives.net/images/2008-small/08/03/ruud_gullit_isiphotoscom_2.jpg

 

Whilst not a Premiership club, Gordon Strachan left his Middlesbrough job for similar reasons not that long ago.  Any manager with an ounce of professional pride would have walked months ago. 

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Is there a mid season clause or something? If he wants it to happen why hasn't it by now?

 

My only hope is that a clause is triggered if we finish below the much-vaunted 10th place, so Ashley is waiting to see what our finishing position is.

 

I think similar happened with Moyes - As soon as he was mathematically unable to achieve 4th place, he was gone, and (Whilst we'll almost certainly never know for sure) it seemed suspiciously like there might have been a clause there as well.

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I think that's something we can all agree with :)

Speak for yourself. Time to find another forum. With a modicum of balance. I wish you knew what went on behind the scenes.

 

If it's that bad, why doesn't he walk?

 

Seriously?

 

"Pardew talked about “taking stock” of things at the end of the season, but denied he would resign. Managers do not walk away from severance packages. " http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/newcastle-united/10808018/Newcastle-United-manager-Alan-Pardew-feels-full-fury-of-fans-despite-victory-which-condemns-Cardiff-to-relegation.html

 

Who was the last Premier League manager to resign on principle? Or, for that matter, resigned because of their own poor performance? What about the last Championship manager, or Liga, or Serie A manager who "did the right thing" and resigned?

 

I'm not for saying for one minute that Pardew shouldn't resign (I'd prefer he commit seppuka in the centre circle), but it simply doesn't happen anymore. If you can find a realistic comparison case I will plead mea culpa, but I genuinely can't think of an actual resignation in the recent past that wasn't "going somewhere better" or a "mutual agreement" that was actually a sacking.

 

There's one example from a few years ago that actually involves NUFC.  A manager who realised that he'd lose the dressing room & the fans backing and decided that his position was untenable.  As much as I disliked the football & results under him, I admire him for leaving on his own accord rather than hanging around like a dead albatross waiting for a payoff.

 

http://www.soccerbyives.net/images/2008-small/08/03/ruud_gullit_isiphotoscom_2.jpg

 

Whilst not a Premiership club, Gordon Strachan left his Middlesbrough job for similar reasons not that long ago.  Any manager with an ounce of professional pride would have walked months ago. 

 

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I think Souness was an example of a manager that hung around until he was sacked and got a massive lump sum in the process. Now he has simply became a part time pundit and has no interest in managing again. I can see Pardew doing the same, except he probably wont get as big a pay off.

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I don't blame managers for waiting to be sacked tbh, football clubs fault for giving them a long contract / daft wages.

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I think Souness was an example of a manager that hung around until he was sacked and got a massive lump sum in the process. Now he has simply became a part time pundit and has no interest in managing again. I can see Pardew doing the same, except he probably wont get as big a pay off.

 

I detested Souness and he wrecked our squad, but I still think he was a better manager than Pardew. Just.

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Souness actually had some genuine injury problems too. Unlike the 'ten senior players' Pardew was missing the other week, which probably included Ba, Cabaye, Carroll, Kuqi, Barry Venison and Fumaca.

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#partyalldaywhenpardspassesaway

 

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_upF4Etvqv9Y/TBugKcEPqlI/AAAAAAAAFos/qX5P-StPlsc/s1600/FlandersDream.jpg

 

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-8RsaqC7YjBA/ThVOM66Z1nI/AAAAAAAAABI/J-sE6Rn1qmc/s1600/When+Flanders+Failed.jpg

 

..

 

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_maxfjsw9CZ1rw5lv0o1_500.png

 

Hmm, too far.

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Padrew selects at random from the book of '100 best football excuses', whereas Souness blamed 'injuries' every single week :lol:

 

They weren't "an excuse" they were "a reason". :lol:

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Souness actually had some genuine injury problems too. Unlike the 'ten senior players' Pardew was missing the other week, which probably included Ba, Cabaye, Carroll, Kuqi, Barry Venison and Fumaca.

 

Plus Souness didn't chop and change our style of play after every defeat. At least we attempted to play football, even if it wasn't very successful. His problem was that he was just a horrible person and not really a genuine coach.

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#partyalldaywhenpardspassesaway

 

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_upF4Etvqv9Y/TBugKcEPqlI/AAAAAAAAFos/qX5P-StPlsc/s1600/FlandersDream.jpg

 

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-8RsaqC7YjBA/ThVOM66Z1nI/AAAAAAAAABI/J-sE6Rn1qmc/s1600/When+Flanders+Failed.jpg

 

..

 

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_maxfjsw9CZ1rw5lv0o1_500.png

 

Hmm, too far.

 

:lol:

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