Disco Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 I'm genuinely up for a gathering to celebrate this knacker being fired/'resigning'. #partytilldawnpardewsgone Worst rhyme ever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 I think that's something we can all agree with Speak for yourself. Time to find another forum. With a modicum of balance. I wish you knew what went on behind the scenes. If it's that bad, why doesn't he walk? Seriously? "Pardew talked about “taking stock” of things at the end of the season, but denied he would resign. Managers do not walk away from severance packages. " http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/newcastle-united/10808018/Newcastle-United-manager-Alan-Pardew-feels-full-fury-of-fans-despite-victory-which-condemns-Cardiff-to-relegation.html Who was the last Premier League manager to resign on principle? Or, for that matter, resigned because of their own poor performance? What about the last Championship manager, or Liga, or Serie A manager who "did the right thing" and resigned? I'm not for saying for one minute that Pardew shouldn't resign (I'd prefer he commit seppuka in the centre circle), but it simply doesn't happen anymore. If you can find a realistic comparison case I will plead mea culpa, but I genuinely can't think of an actual resignation in the recent past that wasn't "going somewhere better" or a "mutual agreement" that was actually a sacking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 I think that's something we can all agree with Speak for yourself. Time to find another forum. With a modicum of balance. I wish you knew what went on behind the scenes. If it's that bad, why doesn't he walk? Seriously? "Pardew talked about “taking stock” of things at the end of the season, but denied he would resign. Managers do not walk away from severance packages. " http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/newcastle-united/10808018/Newcastle-United-manager-Alan-Pardew-feels-full-fury-of-fans-despite-victory-which-condemns-Cardiff-to-relegation.html Who was the last Premier League manager to resign on principle? Or, for that matter, resigned because of their own poor performance? What about the last Championship manager, or Liga, or Serie A manager who "did the right thing" and resigned? I'm not for saying for one minute that Pardew shouldn't resign (I'd prefer he commit seppuka in the centre circle), but it simply doesn't happen anymore. If you can find a realistic comparison case I will plead mea culpa, but I genuinely can't think of an actual resignation in the recent past that wasn't "going somewhere better" or a "mutual agreement" that was actually a sacking. Zola? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 The whole 'he should walk' argument is a complete non-starter and always has been. If it's true that he wants a contact for Shola and can't have it, and the protests continue, plus a trashing by Liverpool, it's possible Ashley is just waiting for the summer to end Pardew. That said, who the fook knows. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 The whole 'he should walk' argument is a complete non-starter and always has been. If it's true that he wants a contact for Shola and can't have it, and the protests continue, plus a trashing by Liverpool, it's possible Ashley is just waiting for the summer to end Pardew. That said, who the fook knows. Guessing mike ashley is anyone's guess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zippity Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 I'm genuinely up for a gathering to celebrate this knacker being fired/'resigning'. #partytilldawnpardewsgone Worst rhyme ever. #partyalldaypardewsaway Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 Is there a mid season clause or something? If he wants it to happen why hasn't it by now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 Is there a mid season clause or something? If he wants it to happen why hasn't it by now? No point in paying the new manager an extra week's wages? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 Gullit pissed off without taking any severance pay iirc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikri Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 I think that's something we can all agree with Speak for yourself. Time to find another forum. With a modicum of balance. I wish you knew what went on behind the scenes. If it's that bad, why doesn't he walk? Seriously? "Pardew talked about “taking stock” of things at the end of the season, but denied he would resign. Managers do not walk away from severance packages. " http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/newcastle-united/10808018/Newcastle-United-manager-Alan-Pardew-feels-full-fury-of-fans-despite-victory-which-condemns-Cardiff-to-relegation.html Who was the last Premier League manager to resign on principle? Or, for that matter, resigned because of their own poor performance? What about the last Championship manager, or Liga, or Serie A manager who "did the right thing" and resigned? I'm not for saying for one minute that Pardew shouldn't resign (I'd prefer he commit seppuka in the centre circle), but it simply doesn't happen anymore. If you can find a realistic comparison case I will plead mea culpa, but I genuinely can't think of an actual resignation in the recent past that wasn't "going somewhere better" or a "mutual agreement" that was actually a sacking. There's one example from a few years ago that actually involves NUFC. A manager who realised that he'd lose the dressing room & the fans backing and decided that his position was untenable. As much as I disliked the football & results under him, I admire him for leaving on his own accord rather than hanging around like a dead albatross waiting for a payoff. http://www.soccerbyives.net/images/2008-small/08/03/ruud_gullit_isiphotoscom_2.jpg Whilst not a Premiership club, Gordon Strachan left his Middlesbrough job for similar reasons not that long ago. Any manager with an ounce of professional pride would have walked months ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 Gullit pissed off without taking any severance pay iirc. Gullit was a man, not a cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 Is there a mid season clause or something? If he wants it to happen why hasn't it by now? My only hope is that a clause is triggered if we finish below the much-vaunted 10th place, so Ashley is waiting to see what our finishing position is. I think similar happened with Moyes - As soon as he was mathematically unable to achieve 4th place, he was gone, and (Whilst we'll almost certainly never know for sure) it seemed suspiciously like there might have been a clause there as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 I think that's something we can all agree with Speak for yourself. Time to find another forum. With a modicum of balance. I wish you knew what went on behind the scenes. If it's that bad, why doesn't he walk? Seriously? "Pardew talked about “taking stock” of things at the end of the season, but denied he would resign. Managers do not walk away from severance packages. " http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/newcastle-united/10808018/Newcastle-United-manager-Alan-Pardew-feels-full-fury-of-fans-despite-victory-which-condemns-Cardiff-to-relegation.html Who was the last Premier League manager to resign on principle? Or, for that matter, resigned because of their own poor performance? What about the last Championship manager, or Liga, or Serie A manager who "did the right thing" and resigned? I'm not for saying for one minute that Pardew shouldn't resign (I'd prefer he commit seppuka in the centre circle), but it simply doesn't happen anymore. If you can find a realistic comparison case I will plead mea culpa, but I genuinely can't think of an actual resignation in the recent past that wasn't "going somewhere better" or a "mutual agreement" that was actually a sacking. There's one example from a few years ago that actually involves NUFC. A manager who realised that he'd lose the dressing room & the fans backing and decided that his position was untenable. As much as I disliked the football & results under him, I admire him for leaving on his own accord rather than hanging around like a dead albatross waiting for a payoff. http://www.soccerbyives.net/images/2008-small/08/03/ruud_gullit_isiphotoscom_2.jpg Whilst not a Premiership club, Gordon Strachan left his Middlesbrough job for similar reasons not that long ago. Any manager with an ounce of professional pride would have walked months ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 Holloway resigned this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 I think Souness was an example of a manager that hung around until he was sacked and got a massive lump sum in the process. Now he has simply became a part time pundit and has no interest in managing again. I can see Pardew doing the same, except he probably wont get as big a pay off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 I don't blame managers for waiting to be sacked tbh, football clubs fault for giving them a long contract / daft wages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 Fairy nuff. So, I was wrong - there are the odd cases of principled managers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 I think Souness was an example of a manager that hung around until he was sacked and got a massive lump sum in the process. Now he has simply became a part time pundit and has no interest in managing again. I can see Pardew doing the same, except he probably wont get as big a pay off. I detested Souness and he wrecked our squad, but I still think he was a better manager than Pardew. Just. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 Souness actually had some genuine injury problems too. Unlike the 'ten senior players' Pardew was missing the other week, which probably included Ba, Cabaye, Carroll, Kuqi, Barry Venison and Fumaca. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 Padrew selects at random from the book of '100 best football excuses', whereas Souness blamed 'injuries' every single week Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 #partyalldaywhenpardspassesaway http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_upF4Etvqv9Y/TBugKcEPqlI/AAAAAAAAFos/qX5P-StPlsc/s1600/FlandersDream.jpg http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-8RsaqC7YjBA/ThVOM66Z1nI/AAAAAAAAABI/J-sE6Rn1qmc/s1600/When+Flanders+Failed.jpg .. http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_maxfjsw9CZ1rw5lv0o1_500.png Hmm, too far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 Padrew selects at random from the book of '100 best football excuses', whereas Souness blamed 'injuries' every single week They weren't "an excuse" they were "a reason". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 Souness actually had some genuine injury problems too. Unlike the 'ten senior players' Pardew was missing the other week, which probably included Ba, Cabaye, Carroll, Kuqi, Barry Venison and Fumaca. Plus Souness didn't chop and change our style of play after every defeat. At least we attempted to play football, even if it wasn't very successful. His problem was that he was just a horrible person and not really a genuine coach. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 So people have accepted pardew is now worse than souness? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 #partyalldaywhenpardspassesaway http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_upF4Etvqv9Y/TBugKcEPqlI/AAAAAAAAFos/qX5P-StPlsc/s1600/FlandersDream.jpg http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-8RsaqC7YjBA/ThVOM66Z1nI/AAAAAAAAABI/J-sE6Rn1qmc/s1600/When+Flanders+Failed.jpg .. http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_maxfjsw9CZ1rw5lv0o1_500.png Hmm, too far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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