Mr. Snrub Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Carrick 32, fucking hell. He's that much of a passenger he's aged about 4 years without me noticing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Ferdinand 35, Evra 32, Giggs 40, Vidic 32, Carrick 32, Van Persie 30. I know they have a lot of talented youngsters but that is a fair few key players who are getting on a bit/picking up a few few knocks, add Scholes who has just retired. I think the key problem has been Ferdinand Evra and Vidic, they need the most replacing but either the replacements aren't there (Evra) or they simply haven't shown they're even fit to lace the boots of the older players (Jones and Smalling) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Their lack of dangerous wingplay is a bigger problem than their central midfielders. Valencia and Young isn't concerning anyone, if you say had Willian and Hazard instead of Chelsea then the lack of creative midfielders becomes less of a problem. They got away with it for years even at CL level because they had great forwards ( still do tbf even if injured) and wingers that scared people shitless. Honestly the midfield is an issue, not just creative wise either but they haven't had a midfielder that drives the entire team forward since maybe Hargreaves and his time was ill-fated due to injuries. But i'd personally get some wide players which can make things happen before anything else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Their lack of dangerous wingplay is a bigger problem than their central midfielders. Valencia and Young isn't concerning anyone, if you say had Willian and Hazard instead of Chelsea then the lack of creative midfielders becomes less of a problem. They got away with it for years even at CL level because they had great forwards ( still do tbf even if injured) and wingers that scared people shitless. Honestly the midfield is an issue, not just creative wise either but they haven't had a midfielder that drives the entire team forward since maybe Hargreaves and his time was ill-fated due to injuries. But i'd personally get some wide players which can make things happen before anything else. things is they've got so little through the middle when rooney isn't playing that it's relatively easy to isolate their wide players and cover them well, that won't change by simply buying better wide players imo...they need to up their threat on both fronts if they want dramatic improvement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 I agree with mojo here, central midfield is where the biggest problem lies. They have no spine to their side. I'd be looking to sign a CB and CM before venturing out for a winger. They haven't even bothered with giving a Zaha a chance yet. After the Chelski game, Hoddle thought Man Utd needed a complete rebuild and need to sign 8-10 players. However i agree with Neville that i don't think things are that bad but they could do with 4 top signings to add to their first team as they still have a lot of good players who are just struggling at the moment and fresh blood would give them a lift. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 They need easy goals - easy goals are most easily found out wide IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Rooney or RVP back tonight? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Rooney or RVP back tonight? No Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Rooney or RVP back tonight? Both back in full training but not being risked apparently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 It's that old rickety defence for me. They don't have one real quality CB anymore that they can rely on. They need a Kompany more than a Fernandinho. They do need both which I guess is the big problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Jones really should be getting more time at centre back, pretty sure they'll start with him and Evans tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 They're about 5 years late in buying world-class midfielders, can only assume the money isn't there to do it. Then again, they spunked a fair bit on Felliani. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 They took way too long to replace key players to the point that these players played well into their late 30s. I think any team with a centre mid that Man United enquire about can add a premium to the pricetag knowing they'll be desperate for Moyes to work out there. They will turn it around, they still have an incredible pull around the world so attracting quality won't be a problem. Holding onto it will be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Jones really should be getting more time at centre back, pretty sure they'll start with him and Evans tonight. Aye, in danger of ruining him. He has the potential to be a top class centre-back, but he's never a full-back or midfielder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 I also don't subscribe to the view that Moyes has suddenly became clueless. He's still a brilliant manager in my book like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 They will turn it around, they still have an incredible pull around the world so attracting quality won't be a problem. Holding onto it will be. Wonder how long that pull will last, especially if they don't qualify for the CL. Assume most players outside the UK have never heard of David Moyes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Brilliant? Mourinho is a brilliant manager, Wenger too. Moyes is smack bang average. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 I think you mean Ronaldo, Scholes, Keane and Giggs. Keane hardly played with Ronaldo did he? Plus that was the time just after Ronaldo signed where he was still adapting to it/Keane was on a downward spiral. So as balance goes the one Messi posted was definitely better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 I also don't subscribe to the view that Moyes has suddenly became clueless. He's still a brilliant manager in my book like. Not sure if this is a joke or not :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 They will turn it around, they still have an incredible pull around the world so attracting quality won't be a problem. Holding onto it will be. Wonder how long that pull will last, especially if they don't qualify for the CL. Assume most players outside the UK have never heard of David Moyes. That's the key part, they will have to make sure the slide doesn't last too long or affiliations will change to likes of Chelsea and City. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 I also don't subscribe to the view that Moyes has suddenly became clueless. He's still a brilliant manager in my book like. Not sure if this is a joke or not :lol: He's not brilliant, such an over used word. I'd call him a good, solid manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 I also don't subscribe to the view that Moyes has suddenly became clueless. He's still a brilliant manager in my book like. Nah Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Couldn't give a shit if they never win again after or Moyes is shite but they better fucking win tonight the nu-useless cunts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 I also don't subscribe to the view that Moyes has suddenly became clueless. He's still a brilliant manager in my book like. Not sure if this is a joke or not :lol: He's not brilliant, such an over used word. I'd call him a good, solid manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Don't think these morons will manage it tonight either. Think they will choke big time. Nightmare. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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