Parsley Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 The point I'm trying to make us we didn't create anything nor did we go out there playing to win. Pardew's tactics show that he would have taken a draw and for me I want to see us go out to win every home game. Bit unfair. Pardew's approach to this game was essentially the same one he used against Chelsea - keep it tight and compact for the first half then go for the kill around the 60 minute mark. It was only really undone today by the one defensive lapse. No-one was complaining about the attacking intent on display at Chelsea; I think it's unfair to do the same for today's game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsah Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 That is EXACTLY why HBA should not start every game. I coach kids with more awareness of what's going on around them... Jesus Glad you noted that because i was just.......argh..... Guy created more than anyone else in half the time. Granted he was a bit greedy but if he wasn't greedy he wouldn't be Hatem. Well yeah, everyone is focusing on those two shots, ok they were very greedy but like f*** he's selfish all the time. He damn good will create chances if we actually played him, like last week. I know criticising HBA on here goes against the grain, but he was poor and looked disinterested against Stoke until two reds gave him the space / time to look good... Wat ? are you mental in the head ? Jesus. What game did he watch? I have no idea like Same as the rest of you - the one where HBA had his back to the play for the first half hour every time we were building from the back. Look - I think HBA is a genius...however to say he is prone to overdo things would be an understatement.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 That is EXACTLY why HBA should not start every game. I coach kids with more awareness of what's going on around them... Jesus Glad you noted that because i was just.......argh..... Guy created more than anyone else in half the time. Granted he was a bit greedy but if he wasn't greedy he wouldn't be Hatem. Well yeah, everyone is focusing on those two shots, ok they were very greedy but like f*** he's selfish all the time. He damn good will create chances if we actually played him, like last week. I know criticising HBA on here goes against the grain, but he was poor and looked disinterested against Stoke until two reds gave him the space / time to look good... You've got absolutely no idea what you're on about have you? He was sitting deep and staying in a compact defensive line up until the sending offs loosened the rains. He had no less players in front of him in the second half. No. Not a clue. Well at least we agree you haven't got a clue anyway Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsah Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 That is EXACTLY why HBA should not start every game. I coach kids with more awareness of what's going on around them... Jesus Glad you noted that because i was just.......argh..... Guy created more than anyone else in half the time. Granted he was a bit greedy but if he wasn't greedy he wouldn't be Hatem. Well yeah, everyone is focusing on those two shots, ok they were very greedy but like f*** he's selfish all the time. He damn good will create chances if we actually played him, like last week. I know criticising HBA on here goes against the grain, but he was poor and looked disinterested against Stoke until two reds gave him the space / time to look good... Wat ? are you mental in the head ? No. I was stood 20 f***ing yards from him you retard. Your view wont help if you're mental like. Clown Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 The point I'm trying to make us we didn't create anything nor did we go out there playing to win. Pardew's tactics show that he would have taken a draw and for me I want to see us go out to win every home game. Bit unfair. Pardew's approach to this game was essentially the same one he used against Chelsea - keep it tight and compact for the first half then go for the kill around the 60 minute mark. It was only really undone today by the one defensive lapse. No-one was complaining about the attacking intent on display at Chelsea; I think it's unfair to do the same for today's game. It's also a tactic I feel is fundamentally flawed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willow Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 We were the better side over the 90 and thoroughly deserved at least a draw but I'm kind of gutted we didn't get a win tbh. I thought they were there for the taking had we been clinical. This match goes to show how badly we need another striker really. Still a good match to watch though and we played great. Debuchy was MOTM of course and Arsenal really didn't deserve the win. As said, Benny wasted some key chances when he should've passed or created for others but I don't lay any blame on him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 That is EXACTLY why HBA should not start every game. I coach kids with more awareness of what's going on around them... Jesus Glad you noted that because i was just.......argh..... Guy created more than anyone else in half the time. Granted he was a bit greedy but if he wasn't greedy he wouldn't be Hatem. Well yeah, everyone is focusing on those two shots, ok they were very greedy but like f*** he's selfish all the time. He damn good will create chances if we actually played him, like last week. I know criticising HBA on here goes against the grain, but he was poor and looked disinterested against Stoke until two reds gave him the space / time to look good... Wat ? are you mental in the head ? No. I was stood 20 f***ing yards from him you retard. Your view wont help if you're mental like. Clown No it wont help if you're a clown either, quite right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 The point I'm trying to make us we didn't create anything nor did we go out there playing to win. Pardew's tactics show that he would have taken a draw and for me I want to see us go out to win every home game. Bit unfair. Pardew's approach to this game was essentially the same one he used against Chelsea - keep it tight and compact for the first half then go for the kill around the 60 minute mark. It was only really undone today by the one defensive lapse. No-one was complaining about the attacking intent on display at Chelsea; I think it's unfair to do the same for today's game. This Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 That is EXACTLY why HBA should not start every game. I coach kids with more awareness of what's going on around them... Jesus Glad you noted that because i was just.......argh..... Guy created more than anyone else in half the time. Granted he was a bit greedy but if he wasn't greedy he wouldn't be Hatem. Well yeah, everyone is focusing on those two shots, ok they were very greedy but like f*** he's selfish all the time. He damn good will create chances if we actually played him, like last week. I know criticising HBA on here goes against the grain, but he was poor and looked disinterested against Stoke until two reds gave him the space / time to look good... Wat ? are you mental in the head ? Jesus. What game did he watch? I have no idea like Same as the rest of you - the one where HBA had his back to the play for the first half hour every time we were building from the back. Look - I think HBA is a genius...however to say he is prone to overdo things would be an understatement.... This retard agrees on that bit. Rather that than not at all imo though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Just in the pub after the game. Need to rewatch some of the decisions but Jesus, the ref. Every tackle on them was a fk to Arsenal. They dived, rolled, cheated and got away with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 That is EXACTLY why HBA should not start every game. I coach kids with more awareness of what's going on around them... Jesus Glad you noted that because i was just.......argh..... Guy created more than anyone else in half the time. Granted he was a bit greedy but if he wasn't greedy he wouldn't be Hatem. Well yeah, everyone is focusing on those two shots, ok they were very greedy but like f*** he's selfish all the time. He damn good will create chances if we actually played him, like last week. I know criticising HBA on here goes against the grain, but he was poor and looked disinterested against Stoke until two reds gave him the space / time to look good... Wat ? are you mental in the head ? Jesus. What game did he watch? I have no idea like Same as the rest of you - the one where HBA had his back to the play for the first half hour every time we were building from the back. Look - I think HBA is a genius...however to say he is prone to overdo things would be an understatement.... This retard agrees on that bit. Rather that than not at all imo though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Ben Arfa was "poor" and "disinterested" in the first half against Stoke now? Christ almighty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 That is EXACTLY why HBA should not start every game. I coach kids with more awareness of what's going on around them... Jesus Glad you noted that because i was just.......argh..... Guy created more than anyone else in half the time. Granted he was a bit greedy but if he wasn't greedy he wouldn't be Hatem. Well yeah, everyone is focusing on those two shots, ok they were very greedy but like f*** he's selfish all the time. He damn good will create chances if we actually played him, like last week. I know criticising HBA on here goes against the grain, but he was poor and looked disinterested against Stoke until two reds gave him the space / time to look good... Wat ? are you mental in the head ? Jesus. What game did he watch? I have no idea like Same as the rest of you - the one where HBA had his back to the play for the first half hour every time we were building from the back. Look - I think HBA is a genius...however to say he is prone to overdo things would be an understatement.... Just going to completely ignore those two magnificent through balls to Debuchy, yeah? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Regarding Arsenal, as huge a result as that is for them, they didn't look like Champions to me. Their goal was scrappy and fortuitous and then they were simply organised at the back. It was their day, like. Could've easily dropped points, there. Man City and Liverpool both looked more impressive the other day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Ben Arfa was "poor" and "disinterested" in the first half against Stoke now? Christ almighty. It just goes to show how fans can see things differently, well wrongly if you are of one opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 He does have a tendency to over do things. But that's quite different to claiming he was terrible today and couldnt be bothered against Stoke until the sendings off gave him loads of space and made him look good Its ridiculous nonsense frankly. Fact is he played his part in a defensive line up first half and still created our only real chances. In the second half he was still marked by at least two just like the first. The difference being that the sendings off allowed him to get forward much more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 That is EXACTLY why HBA should not start every game. I coach kids with more awareness of what's going on around them... Jesus Glad you noted that because i was just.......argh..... Guy created more than anyone else in half the time. Granted he was a bit greedy but if he wasn't greedy he wouldn't be Hatem. Well yeah, everyone is focusing on those two shots, ok they were very greedy but like f*** he's selfish all the time. He damn good will create chances if we actually played him, like last week. I know criticising HBA on here goes against the grain, but he was poor and looked disinterested against Stoke until two reds gave him the space / time to look good... Wat ? are you mental in the head ? Jesus. What game did he watch? I have no idea like Same as the rest of you - the one where HBA had his back to the play for the first half hour every time we were building from the back. Look - I think HBA is a genius...however to say he is prone to overdo things would be an understatement.... He was releasing the ball early in the 1st half and after the sending offs took more time on the ball like the rest of our team did. He isn't perfect but how can you say he overdid things in that half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro111 Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Got to laugh at people slagging Ben Arfa. Absolute morons. The kid comes on with the brief to create things which he did and just because he didn't create a goal people are calling him. Yeah his decision making is poor but at least he had a few attempts at goal man ffs. No fucker else looked capable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Draw would have been a fair result. Disappointing to be undone by a set piece rather than their genuine class. Ah whey, we'll do West Brom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 I said "shoot" before Ben Arfa took that shot on btw, it was absolutely the right decision to shoot. Should have gone for the back post mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsley Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 The point I'm trying to make us we didn't create anything nor did we go out there playing to win. Pardew's tactics show that he would have taken a draw and for me I want to see us go out to win every home game. Bit unfair. Pardew's approach to this game was essentially the same one he used against Chelsea - keep it tight and compact for the first half then go for the kill around the 60 minute mark. It was only really undone today by the one defensive lapse. No-one was complaining about the attacking intent on display at Chelsea; I think it's unfair to do the same for today's game. It's also a tactic I feel is fundamentally flawed. Why? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Draw would have been a fair result. Disappointing to be undone by a set piece rather than their genuine class. Ah whey, we'll do West Brom. The perfect reaction would be to win at W.B.A, we need a reaction like, it's what good teams do. It's a nice little test of our metal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 What did HBA create, then? Name a clear cut chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillClinton Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Don't understand the Ben Arfa criticism.. Our most creative player to that point in the game was our RB, someone had to do something since nothing else was happening. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Thought we deserved something out of that, pretty evenly matched. Great save for Sissoko's shot and agonising to see that cannon off Remy's face creep round the post. Good performance generally and thought Pardew generally got it right, though Gouffran probably shouldn't have come off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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