St1pe Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Similar to a few others I still believe he'll come good for us. Although I don't think he's massively suited to our counter attacking play style. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 what if ayoze gains in power as sdj diminishes through injury? fucked up but probably true. i assume everyone is cool with this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 what if ayoze gains in power as sdj diminishes through injury? fucked up but probably true. i assume everyone is cool with this. Are you suggesting some sort of vampiric ability transfer is going on here? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Semi-crock. Lacks pace and fitness and generally a bit of a plodder. Has vision and close control but these are things as nothing if you don't have an engine and athleticism in the PL. I'd get rid of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Semi-crock. Lacks pace and fitness and generally a bit of a plodder. Has vision and close control but these are things as nothing if you don't have an engine and athleticism in the PL. I'd get rid of him. This. You get away with it in the Netherlands. Clearly has talent but like a lot of our signings lack key attributes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Until he gets real game time and fitness its impossible to judge whether he has what it takes for this league IMO. No doubt he isn't quick or particularly mobile, that's something we all knew before he arrived. But its also quite possible that's being exasperated by his lack of match fitness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 I don't think he's totally unsuited to our system, he could play where Perez plays. Unfortunately for him Perez is playing extremely well. Perez has more to his game. What we could really do with is a proper AM which is what I thought De Jong was. Seems like most regard him as a poacher good at making late runs similar to Nolan without appetite for tackling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 I don't think he's totally unsuited to our system, he could play where Perez plays. Unfortunately for him Perez is playing extremely well. Perez has more to his game. What we could really do with is a proper AM which is what I thought De Jong was. Seems like most regard him as a poacher good at making late runs similar to Nolan without appetite for tackling. Our Proper AM is Wijnaldum. Who should be central with a destroyer if we are going to go with this system - someone with the legs to be able to cover the width of the pitch relatively well and be able to contribute in attack. A position we shouldn't be buying cheap, one that probably needs the amount we paid for Thauvin, a 23-26 year old DCM/CM with strength, pace, and technical ability. We also then need to fix our left side to make this all work and that's signing a legit LW and LB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 I don't think he's totally unsuited to our system, he could play where Perez plays. Unfortunately for him Perez is playing extremely well. Perez has more to his game. What we could really do with is a proper AM which is what I thought De Jong was. Seems like most regard him as a poacher good at making late runs similar to Nolan without appetite for tackling. Our Proper AM is Wijnaldum. Who should be central with a destroyer if we are going to go with this system - someone with the legs to be able to cover the width of the pitch relatively well and be able to contribute in attack. A position we shouldn't be buying cheap, one that probably needs the amount we paid for Thauvin, a 23-26 year old DCM/CM with strength, pace, and technical ability. We also then need to fix our left side to make this all work and that's signing a legit LW and LB. Sounds about right, although I would say for a CM/DM role, it's so important that it's not necessary to stick to an age ceiling of 26 yr old. Gareth Barry must be getting on, but he's still better than anything we've got in that part of the pitch. There's so much money in the game at the moment that it's daft to look at sell on potential in every single position, especially CM and CB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 I don't think he's totally unsuited to our system, he could play where Perez plays. Unfortunately for him Perez is playing extremely well. Perez has more to his game. What we could really do with is a proper AM which is what I thought De Jong was. Seems like most regard him as a poacher good at making late runs similar to Nolan without appetite for tackling. Our Proper AM is Wijnaldum. Who should be central with a destroyer if we are going to go with this system - someone with the legs to be able to cover the width of the pitch relatively well and be able to contribute in attack. A position we shouldn't be buying cheap, one that probably needs the amount we paid for Thauvin, a 23-26 year old DCM/CM with strength, pace, and technical ability. We also then need to fix our left side to make this all work and that's signing a legit LW and LB. Sounds about right, although I would say for a CM/DM role, it's so important that it's not necessary to stick to an age ceiling of 26 yr old. Gareth Barry must be getting on, but he's still better than anything we've got in that part of the pitch. There's so much money in the game at the moment that it's daft to look at sell on potential in every single position, especially CM and CB. Aye you're right, the age bracket was my ideal scenario - but yes, any good and reliable DM from 19-32 would do for us. But obviously our powers at be have an issue with signing anyone older than 27-28. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleBingo Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 The new Glyn Hodges. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 I'd give him 45 minutes at the weekend for Tiote. Hopefully we can go 1 or 2 up in the first half then bring him on to finish Bournemouth off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 We've done that once in the last few years man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sho Time Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Going off what I've seen from him since signing for us, I honestly think although he was a cracking player he's finished as a footballer (especially in the Premier League). Nowhere near fit enough or strong enough to be a useful player to us and he's so immobile in a fast-paced league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
U2 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Going off what I've seen from him since signing for us, I honestly think although he was a cracking player he's finished as a footballer 26 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 I'm not sure how anyone can come to such stark conclusions, given how little we've all seen of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Finished as a human being Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Boy Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Going off what I've seen from him since signing for us, I honestly think although he was a cracking player he's finished as a footballer 26 He's never only 26 is he? Looks as old as Mbemba! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 He should go to Italy or Spain ASAP for both our sakes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Going off what I've seen from him since signing for us, I honestly think although he was a cracking player he's finished as a footballer 26 He's never only 26 is he? Looks as old as Mbemba! Yep, he looks as old and moves just like Geremi when he was here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 We're the experts at writing people off like, getting really good at it now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Less troubled players have been denied decent careers here. Hardly irrational. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 I don't think he's totally unsuited to our system, he could play where Perez plays. Unfortunately for him Perez is playing extremely well. Perez has more to his game. What we could really do with is a proper AM which is what I thought De Jong was. Seems like most regard him as a poacher good at making late runs similar to Nolan without appetite for tackling. Our Proper AM is Wijnaldum. Who should be central with a destroyer if we are going to go with this system - someone with the legs to be able to cover the width of the pitch relatively well and be able to contribute in attack. A position we shouldn't be buying cheap, one that probably needs the amount we paid for Thauvin, a 23-26 year old DCM/CM with strength, pace, and technical ability. We also then need to fix our left side to make this all work and that's signing a legit LW and LB. Sounds about right, although I would say for a CM/DM role, it's so important that it's not necessary to stick to an age ceiling of 26 yr old. Gareth Barry must be getting on, but he's still better than anything we've got in that part of the pitch. There's so much money in the game at the moment that it's daft to look at sell on potential in every single position, especially CM and CB. Aye you're right, the age bracket was my ideal scenario - but yes, any good and reliable DM from 19-32 would do for us. But obviously our powers at be have an issue with signing anyone older than 27-28. I wouldn't want us to sign anyone under 23 in that position unless an exceptional talent. It's a position for men that know an understand the game and role. If they're going to be under 23 i'd like someone that would probably see themselves as CB so has a defensive focus and discipline like a Dier Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 I don't think he's totally unsuited to our system, he could play where Perez plays. Unfortunately for him Perez is playing extremely well. Perez has more to his game. What we could really do with is a proper AM which is what I thought De Jong was. Seems like most regard him as a poacher good at making late runs similar to Nolan without appetite for tackling. Our Proper AM is Wijnaldum. Who should be central with a destroyer if we are going to go with this system - someone with the legs to be able to cover the width of the pitch relatively well and be able to contribute in attack. A position we shouldn't be buying cheap, one that probably needs the amount we paid for Thauvin, a 23-26 year old DCM/CM with strength, pace, and technical ability. We also then need to fix our left side to make this all work and that's signing a legit LW and LB. Sounds about right, although I would say for a CM/DM role, it's so important that it's not necessary to stick to an age ceiling of 26 yr old. Gareth Barry must be getting on, but he's still better than anything we've got in that part of the pitch. There's so much money in the game at the moment that it's daft to look at sell on potential in every single position, especially CM and CB. Aye you're right, the age bracket was my ideal scenario - but yes, any good and reliable DM from 19-32 would do for us. But obviously our powers at be have an issue with signing anyone older than 27-28. I wouldn't want us to sign anyone under 23 in that position unless an exceptional talent. It's a position for men that know an understand the game and role. If they're going to be under 23 i'd like someone that would probably see themselves as CB so has a defensive focus and discipline like a Dier Based on that, lets give Ivanovic an escape route on silly money and tell him to play in the middle and just fuck everyone up who dare go near him. I'd pay to see that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 We're the experts at writing people off like, getting really good at it now. Does anyone seriously think De Jong has the physical attributes to succeed now, if he ever did? Sad but unless we can form an effective unit with 10 players so he can float about behind Mitrovic then it's never going to work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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