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Challenging in the top 7 or 8 isn't even in my mind though, that's how bad it is.  My focus right now is to be able to get back to enjoying watching our matches, to look forward to them.  That doesn't have to mean winning often either, just trying would be enough, just being able to think "today we might actually play well, we might have a go at a team".  I've supported the club for most of my life and rarely have I not looked forward to a match even if I thought we had little chance of winning.  This cunt makes no hate the thought of our matches wether I think we can win or not.

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  On 18/09/2014 at 13:02, Tachikoma said:

f***, I don't even care if we challenge the top 7/8, just a manager who has a smidgen of common sense, and isn't a total f***ing dickhead would do.

 

How I wish we could have Hughton back.

 

I'd take Hughton back. His sacking is proof of why I think a new chairman would be more beneficial than a new manager, although I understand this isn't going to happen in the too near future.

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  On 18/09/2014 at 13:04, ToonImms said:

 

 

Yes I am, purely because at the moment I don't see what difference it will make. Pardew is shit, Ashley is shit, and 99% of our players are shit. To me, we need to start at the top.

 

But isn't that basically like saying that if we can't make it all great at once then we should instead keep everything shit?  Ashley being a cunt is shit, Ashley being a cunt and our manager being the worst example of an inept coward going is even more shit.  Its the difference between the club not going anywhere and the club not going anywhere while the matches also make you want to fucking shoot yourself.  Also no 99% of our players are not shit, again its just an excuse for this prick.  Any Footballer who listens to Pardew and can't score regularly from 25 to 30 yards will look shit under him.  Obviously a striker is the exception as he actually allows one of those inside the opposition half, but then it still has to be a striker good enough to score without any teammates near him.

 

If someone asked me right now which one I'd choose, Pardew being replaced or Ashley being replaced of course I'd choose Ashley.  Because long term he's the biggest problem at the club and I'd be very confident any new owner would then replace Pardew anyway.  But that doesn't mean I don't want Pardew gone as soon as possible.  I mean even from your perspective you have to see that 90% of fans are focusing on Pardew which is taking heat away from Ashley.  With him gone people can then focus their campaigns on him (one of the reasons Pardew is still here no doubt).

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  On 18/09/2014 at 13:17, SanToon said:

@NUFC: AP: "I had a long conversation with Mike Ashley on Sunday. We both agreed to focus on this Saturday and try to get a win for #nufc"

 

Maybe has this last game then and is binned.

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the man must know what he's about to walk into, and he's certainly not staying in it for the professional pride or belief he can turn it around

 

unless you're on the breadline can you imagine hanging onto a job like this, where 99% of people involved want you gone and are publicly voicing it

 

his life must be a living purgatory

 

good

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  On 18/09/2014 at 13:22, ToonImms said:

All I was trying to say is that they are both shit but if I had to choose, out the two, who I blamed more, it would be Ashley. If they would both leave this club then yeah great but the fact is that none of them are going anywhere soon.

 

I think everyone knows that first sentence to be true. The second one, remains to be seen.

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  On 18/09/2014 at 13:00, ToonImms said:

No, of course it's not good enough. We want to be challenging in the top 7/8 and Pardew is not going to get us there. I just feel that whilst Ashley is still here, neither is anyone else.

 

So we stick with a manager guiding us to 20th position because a different manager might not get us to 7th?

 

Even if the replacement is no better than Pardew tactically at least he won't be Alan Fucking Pardew and go around lying to and blaming supporters, calling people cunts, shoving people, nutting people, falling out with promising players and not playing them because he wants to play his mates instead.

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Or if he does at least we'll have a small window of time where we aren't sure he'll do all that and we can actually dream that our manager might not be a sub human piece of shit.

 

  On 18/09/2014 at 13:22, ToonImms said:

All I was trying to say is that they are both shit but if I had to choose, out the two, who I blamed more, it would be Ashley. If they would both leave this club then yeah great but the fact is that none of them are going anywhere soon.

 

But why does it have to be both or neither?

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Someone is regurgitating Pardew propaganda here, all that 5th bollocks (wing-and-a-prayer football, signs were there), who can we get (better the devil you know), Pardew doesn't choose players (Obertan, Bent, Mullins anyone?), has his best players sold (Losing Cabaye shouldn't make an entire team implode, bad management regardless). These are all over used, poor excuses.

 

Pardew plays internationals out of position, stifles their natural game in favour of defence and chooses the team/set up/tactics(snigger) for the match. He's fucking less than useless, he makes players who play well for their country look like league 1 players at best. His favourite substitute, no matter the score/opposition is left-back for left-back, great way to turn a game Pardew.

 

Ashley is a curse, but excusing Pardew for anything Ashley does is shameful, Pardew knows the score, laps it up and tells us all what a great boss he is. So fuck him, he's the target, he's fully responsible for where he finds himself.

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Just On sky sports news looks like he's going to burst into tears,said he had lengthy discussion with Ashley on Sunday about the performance but not about his position as manager!all need get behind the team unlike southampton match,cheeky twat we were behind team just also we were against u!

 

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He should just go all out and curse Ashley and the fans and the players and everyone! Or at least make a few more snarky comments about the abuse he's been getting. Then it's all out war and everyone knows who'll win that war.

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  On 18/09/2014 at 13:08, Tachikoma said:

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Yes I am, purely because at the moment I don't see what difference it will make. Pardew is shit, Ashley is shit, and 99% of our players are shit. To me, we need to start at the top.

 

Cough up 300 mil to buy the club then.

 

Boom! KO.

 

 

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  On 18/09/2014 at 13:42, Mikky said:

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Just seen his interview on SSN. My opinion? He's gone and knows it.

 

What was said?

 

Said the bit about having a chat with Ashley. Also said he knows he is under-pressure - hopes that the Hull game won't be like it was last week, in terms of what the fans did. Said Southampton wasn't good enough - no excuses. Said that the good times he has had have been forgotten about too quickly - also talked about one or two of the players still settling in. Mentioned Cabaye (as per usual)

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  On 18/09/2014 at 13:44, Big Geordie said:

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Just seen his interview on SSN. My opinion? He's gone and knows it.

 

What was said?

 

Said the bit about having a chat with Ashley. Also said he knows he is under-pressure - hopes that the Hull game won't be like it was last week, in terms of what the fans did. Said Southampton wasn't good enough - no excuses. Said that the good times he has had have been forgotten about too quickly - also talked about one or two of the players still settling in. Mentioned Cabaye (as per usual)

 

Eh?? is he off his nut?

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  On 18/09/2014 at 13:44, Big Geordie said:

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Just seen his interview on SSN. My opinion? He's gone and knows it.

 

What was said?

 

Said the bit about having a chat with Ashley. Also said he knows he is under-pressure - hopes that the Hull game won't be like it was last week, in terms of what the fans did. Said Southampton wasn't good enough - no excuses. Said that the good times he has had have been forgotten about too quickly - also talked about one or two of the players still settling in. Mentioned Cabaye (as per usual)

 

:lol:

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  On 18/09/2014 at 13:46, LRD said:

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Just seen his interview on SSN. My opinion? He's gone and knows it.

 

What was said?

 

Said the bit about having a chat with Ashley. Also said he knows he is under-pressure - hopes that the Hull game won't be like it was last week, in terms of what the fans did. Said Southampton wasn't good enough - no excuses. Said that the good times he has had have been forgotten about too quickly - also talked about one or two of the players still settling in. Mentioned Cabaye (as per usual)

 

:lol:

 

One 5th placed finish a few years back and he thinks he has the right to wonder through the city naked like King Xerxes.

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  On 18/09/2014 at 13:46, LRD said:

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Just seen his interview on SSN. My opinion? He's gone and knows it.

 

What was said?

 

Said the bit about having a chat with Ashley. Also said he knows he is under-pressure - hopes that the Hull game won't be like it was last week, in terms of what the fans did. Said Southampton wasn't good enough - no excuses. Said that the good times he has had have been forgotten about too quickly - also talked about one or two of the players still settling in. Mentioned Cabaye (as per usual)

 

:lol:

 

Too many on here have brushed that encouraging opening day defeat to Man City under the carpet, tbf.

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• performance upset him wasn't proud of it,not guna offer any excuses

 

• when we go behind in games need show better spirit

 

• in season u get games where it gets away from u,happens to top teams as well Arsenal had some games last year where they were beat 5 and 6,it happens!

 

• spoke to mike had long conversation on Sunday was disappointed with performance as has right to as the owner,both agreed to focus on a win for Saturday,issues about me need to take a bit of a back seat or will be difficult environment if we have same atmosphere as southampton

 

• discussions bout his job never came up talked about the team, about the performance!

 

•we have had some great times that seem to be forgotten here recently,we have had some tough days as well,environment for players on sat will b tough as it's ever been,

 

• new players finding adjustment tough

 

•need put excuses behind us and get this magnificent football club a win on Saturday

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  On 18/09/2014 at 13:44, Big Geordie said:

Said the bit about having a chat with Ashley. Also said he knows he is under-pressure - hopes that the Hull game won't be like it was last week, in terms of what the fans did. Said Southampton wasn't good enough - no excuses. Said that the good times he has had have been forgotten about too quickly - also talked about one or two of the players still settling in. Mentioned Cabaye (as per usual)

 

Good times :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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